2BobTanner, I think you meant that they'd adjust their time zones westward. Arizona, which stays on MST all the time, might decide to move into the Pacific Time Zone, because PDT is the same time as MST. During the time that DST is in operation Arizona and California have the same time. The Pacific Time Zone is west of the Mountain Time Zone.

Or perhaps you were saying that the eastern boundaries of some Time Zones would be moved eastward to encompass territory that used to be in the adjacent Zone?

The whole thing is ridiculous. The Time Zones should stay the same and DST should die a quick death. The Sun has not changed, the rotation of the Earth has not changed. Don't mess with the clocks! (And stop doing it.)

flashguy

I once heard a radio host propose summer temperature saving. Set your thermometer back 10 degrees in the summer and save it for the winter.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I can’t see this ever passing...

I just think we Americans are so stuck in our ways, that this will never come to pass.

It just passed unanimously in the Senate. Furthermore, nearly two-thirds of Americans want to stop changing their clocks, according to a 2021 poll:
https://today.yougov.com/topic...-want-stay-permanent

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We are still using inches and miles when the rest of the world has moved onto centimeters and kilometers, we are still using paper checks when the rest of the world has largely moved on to strictly electronic transactions, why mess with tradition?

And thank the Lord for that.

I vote we turn off daylight saving time at night, then turn it back on after daylight. That way everybody can be happy. That is what my granddaddy did with his kerosene lamps and it seemed to keep him going strong.

I haven't had to change my clocks in 10 years. It's great!

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
I need more hours of the day. So whatever gives me more sunlight, per day, is what I pick.

There are X hours of sunlight in one day. DST does not "add sunlight hours."

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
I need more hours of the day. So whatever gives me more sunlight, per day, is what I pick.

There are X hours of sunlight in one day. DST does not "add sunlight hours."

Well…yes…but it does if you factor in “four simultaneous earth days!”

If those legislators in Washington really wanted to accomplish something they would require that each day should have twenty-six hours instead of twenty-four, the added two hours would be daylight hours.

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Originally posted by architect:

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Originally posted by kkina:
It's about time.

Actually, it's not It is about time zones. The time doesn't change (how could it?), what changes is the time zone you are in, e.g. EST -> EDT -> EST -> EDT etc.

Which is another way of saying how I think of it, i.e., one's offset from UTC. Eastern time goes from UTC-5 (EST) to UTC-4 (EDT), while AZ is permanently UTC-7 (MST).
 
I agree with others wholeheartedly who have expressed a preference for permanent Standard Time, rather the DST. Having lived in AZ for 20 years now, I really enjoy following the seasons without jerky changes, and Standard Time seems to me to bracket the day/night hours perfectly. If passed as is, I wonder how it would affect AZ (grandfather in existing state laws, perhaps?). Right now I have to make adjustments when, e.g., calling a business on the East Coast. Let's see, are they 2 or 3 hours ahead of me? Permanent time would be good, but I prefer it be ST.

I like some more daylight in the evening just as much as the next guy, but... this is what Congress thinks it needs to spend time on?

Better this than other things they can screw us on.

As usual I am confused....

I'm all for getting rid of the time changes, the problem is what will it cost us. Congress always has to bury a shit ton or pork in every bill.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
I need more hours of the day. So whatever gives me more sunlight, per day, is what I pick.

There are X hours of sunlight in one day. DST does not "add sunlight hours."

Of course it doesn't add sunlight hours, that statement is silly.

Perhaps phrased a better way, I enjoy more hours of sunlight during my waking hours. In the summer months, sunrise can be as early as 4:30 AM when observing standard time. I would venture to guess that most folks are not up at 4:30 AM, but are up at 8:30 - 9:00 PM and can thus take advantage of the sunlight during the time they are awake.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
Wow, Congress is actually doing something I wholeheartedly support!

I wouldn't count any chickens just yet. My bet, this congress isn't competent enough to even handle something this ridiculously simple or no brainer.

I had forgotten that we tried it before for two years back in the 70s.

https://us.yahoo.com/news/perm...erica-052453819.html

“But 48 years ago, the U.S. tried the same thing – and public opinion of the change quickly deteriorated, leading lawmakers to rapidly reverse course. The U.S. is set up for a similar rude awakening if it makes daylight saving time permanent, according to David Prerau, an expert and author on DST.”

I don’t think there is any question that the vast majority people hate changing their clocks twice a year. What is unclear is whether people would prefer staying on DST or Standard time.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
Wow, Congress is actually doing something I wholeheartedly support!

I wouldn't count any chickens just yet. My bet, this congress isn't competent enough to even handle something this ridiculously simple or no brainer.

Well, I hope the House doesn't pass it. It may be simple, but it's wrong. Get rid of DST entirely and go back to what the railroads designed.

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
Wow, Congress is actually doing something I wholeheartedly support!

I wouldn't count any chickens just yet. My bet, this congress isn't competent enough to even handle something this ridiculously simple or no brainer.

Well, I hope the House doesn't pass it. It may be simple, but it's wrong. Get rid of DST entirely and go back to what the railroads designed.

flashguy

Then the sunrise will be 4:30 am in the summer and set mid afternoon in the winter. No thanks. DST all year please.

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Then the sunrise will be 4:30 am in the summer and set mid afternoon in the winter. No thanks. DST all year please.[/QUOTE]

Exactly why I want to have standard time year round!

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:

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Originally posted by flashguy:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
Wow, Congress is actually doing something I wholeheartedly support!

I wouldn't count any chickens just yet. My bet, this congress isn't competent enough to even handle something this ridiculously simple or no brainer.

Well, I hope the House doesn't pass it. It may be simple, but it's wrong. Get rid of DST entirely and go back to what the railroads designed.

flashguy

Then the sunrise will be 4:30 am in the summer and set mid afternoon in the winter. No thanks. DST all year please.

You obviously live way too far north. That is your problem.

flashguy