I'm more in favor of standardizing on standard time. All DST does is shift the time. It doesn't increase the number of daylight hours.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
This is just going to create a disaster.

Really? I kinda remember a lot of people saying that about Y2K.

Only the government can cut a foot off the top of the blanket, sew it on the bottom and say it is longer.

I fully support this. We used to not have it here, but one of our Republican governors pushed to have it implemented a while back. I understand his perspective as it greatly simplified interstate commerce with our surrounding states, but man I absolutely hate dealing with it. Just getting rid of the stupid thing everywhere seems like the best solution...and I'm down with keeping it on DST, too, as I'd rather have the light in the evening.

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Originally posted by 83v45magna:
Am I the only one wondering, why don't they just do away with Daylight Time and stick with Standard times?

I'm for that. I have hated DST ever since I became subject to it. (During my formative years in Michigan, it didn't do DST.)

Most businesses now permit "flextime" where workers who want to come and leave early may do so. A great many now also work from home, with more flexible hours. There is no need for DST and I would prefer to see it die the death it deserves. The original Time Zones were (mostly) set up to mimic "sun time" based on the longitude of the zone, and I believe they should remain so. There are a few anomalies--Michigan is in the wrong Zone (EST) because the bankers in Detroit wanted to be on the same time as those in NYC. It was wrong, because most of the state should be in the Central Zone (CST) based on its lognitudes. DST makes things even worse, and because it's a northern state, having DST in the winter would have children going to school when it is pitch dark--a situation most parents don't like. It's not as serious here in Texas, but I sttill don't like it.

The railroads did their work pretty well. We should stick with it.

flashguy

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Yup, this is a no brainer. Rarely are decisions this easy. Moving the clocks is stupid with no purpose any longer. Pick the better time, daylight or standard, and go. Easy peasy. Hard to believe it took this long. Tucson, Phoenix, and Indianapolis figured this out years ago.

Would this law require those sensible states/cities to now go DST, against their wishes?

flashguy

It is fairly easy to set the clocks to the new time (whatever it may be).

I have a harder time adjusting any goats, horses, or other critters that are fed on a schedule.

The Feds had already reduced Standard Time to a mere 16 weeks. This won't make much difference.

But, yeah, I've said it for years- stop screwing with the clock. It was my hope that we would go back to Standard Time permanently, but, we're special, so...

This would mean we would NOT turn clocks back to STANDARD TIME in Fall 2023.

So it would stay light later in the day going through Winter.

I’m a YES…

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Daylight savings time should just remain as "standard" time and be done with it.
If schools or any other industry has a problem then they can change their hours of operation to whatever blows up their skirts.
I hate it when it gets dark an hour before I get off work in the winter anyway.

If you want it to stay light later in the Winter…then you are FOR Daylight Savings Time…not Standard Time.

That is what this bill will do.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
This is just going to create a disaster.

Really?

Yes, really. I don't mean a disaster of biblical proportions. Perhaps "mess" would've been a better word.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
I kinda remember a lot of people saying that about Y2K.

They were right, too. You've no idea of the millions of man-hours and billions of dollars that went into preventing that from coming true.

This is stupid. Look: Time zones were established such the the sun was more-or-less directly overhead, in the middle of the time zone, at noon. All this mucking-about with local concepts of time is inane.

No. Just... no.

I'm now seventy-one years old, and still the stupidity of the human race manages to surprise and disappoint me.

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Originally posted by Patriot:

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Daylight savings time should just remain as "standard" time and be done with it.
If schools or any other industry has a problem then they can change their hours of operation to whatever blows up their skirts.
I hate it when it gets dark an hour before I get off work in the winter anyway.

If you want it to stay light later in the Winter…then you are FOR Daylight Savings Time…not Standard Time.

That is what this bill will do.

He was (I think) saying that DST should become the new standard, a situation I disagree with.

flashguy

I’m guessing that if this passes and we get permanent Daylight Savings Time, that there will be move within some states to move the time zone boundaries eastwardly. The mommies will be concerned about their kiddies going to school in the dark, as darkness increases the likelihood of pedestrian traffic accidents.

Kentucky and Tennessee straddle both the Eastern and Central time zones, with the boundary pretty much in the middle of both states.

Louisville is at the farthest western part of the Eastern time zone (38° 15’ N/85° 46’ W), while Nashville is in the farthest eastern portion of the Central time zone (36° 10’ N/86° 46’ W).

Each degree of longitude at these latitudes is about 55 miles in length; thus Nashville is about 50+ miles further to west than Louisville, but yet it is situated in a different time zone.

In Louisville, at the deepest part of December darkness, the Sun doesn’t rise until 8:00AM (Eastern STANDARD Time). If we would have permanent Daylight Savings Time, then the Sun won’t rise until 9:00AM (Eastern DAYLIGHT SAVINGS Time). Last weekend at the time change, the Sun rose at 6:58AM on Saturday, but rose at 7:58AM on Sunday.

Like King Canute railing at the sea trying to command the tide to stay, Congress is conducting another exercise in futility to show their power over all.

Just keep it at STANDARD time all the year ‘round; or if they must, just bump it forward by 1/2 hour (30 minutes), and then be done with it.

I'd prefer standard time myself.

I never could stand the fact that it stays light until well after 2200 in the summers. I hated it as a kid when bedtimes were 2100 or so and you were trying to go to sleep when it was still light out.

But In typical .gov fashion they have to drag it out long as possible so we will have endure it two more times.

As proposed it wouldn't take affect until a year form now.

After adjusting the time on 43 watches in my safe this is music to my ears.

I don't like it. Having said that, with all that is going on in the world...this is what they come up with?

I need more hours of the day. So whatever gives me more sunlight, per day, is what I pick.

Maybe we can send that congress thug that thinks Guam is going to tip over, and move the sun just a bit.

Been in AZ 8 years now. I recall after getting here, a state legislator proposed AZ going to DST like evryone else.
Poor guy got death threats, never ran again, and might have moved BACK to California!

I can’t see this ever passing, not that I hate this whole DST thing, it really throws young children off for a week or two twice a year which sucks.

I just think we Americans are so stuck in our ways, that this will never come to pass. We are still using inches and miles when the rest of the world has moved onto centimeters and kilometers, we are still using paper checks when the rest of the world has largely moved on to strictly electronic transactions, why mess with tradition?