Wait until business and the population's natural body cycles take over and someone [elected into office and the IQ of a potato] decides we need to move all clocks ahead, again, to increase the amount of sunshine in a day.

Just wait till they figure out a way to tax it.

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Originally posted by TMats:
Gosh, will it make our hair shinier, our teeth whiter, our clothes brighter, and fight crabgrass too?!?

Also shines buttons.

I do hope this passes, though. Switching back and forth is silly, and I'd rather have daylight in the evening.

Yup, this is a no brainer. Rarely are decisions this easy. Moving the clocks is stupid with no purpose any longer. Pick the better time, daylight or standard, and go. Easy peasy. Hard to believe it took this long. Tucson, Phoenix, and Indianapolis figured this out years ago.

Daylight savings time should just remain as "standard" time and be done with it.
If schools or any other industry has a problem then they can change their hours of operation to whatever blows up their skirts.
I hate it when it gets dark an hour before I get off work in the winter anyway.

More importantly, passed by unanimous consent. Come ON!

How many thousand pages is this bill?

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
Daylight savings time should just remain as "standard" time and be done with it.
If schools or any other industry has a problem then they can change their hours of operation to whatever blows up their skirts.
I hate it when it gets dark an hour before I get off work in the winter anyway.

Yep, it's a screw up.. should keep standard time... if they go to daylight savings we will have to shift the rotation of the earth 15 degrees. Think about it. the east coast is supposed to be 5 hours behind Greenich mean time.... with daylight savings we are 4.... how am I supposed to figure out exactly where I am using spherical trigonometry (celestial navigation) with this?

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Originally posted by 6guns:

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Surely they can't screw this up!

Famous last words...

We're talking about people Demonrat Congressional Critters who watched the intro to the movie Idiocracy and thought it was a game plan instead of a dire warning...

So, making Daylight Savings Time permanent will therefore make it Standard Time by default, until some bonehead decides this still isn't good enough and starts a push for a "New" DST.

A link in time

Lots more info at the link too much to post but here's a snippet..


Early adoption in law

Daylight Saving Time has been used in the U.S. and in many European countries since World War I. At that time, in an effort to conserve fuel needed to produce electric power, Germany and Austria took time by the forelock, and began saving daylight at 11:00 p.m. on April 30, 1916, by advancing the hands of the clock one hour until the following October. Other countries immediately adopted this 1916 action: Belgium, Denmark, France, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Sweden, Turkey, and Tasmania. Nova Scotia and Manitoba adopted it as well, with Britain following suit three weeks later, on May 21, 1916. In 1917, Australia and Newfoundland began saving daylight.

The plan was not formally adopted in the U.S. until 1918. 'An Act to preserve daylight and provide standard time for the United States' was enacted on March 19, 1918. [See law]It both established standard time zones and set summer DST to begin on March 31, 1918. Daylight Saving Time was observed for seven months in 1918 and 1919. After the War ended, the law proved so unpopular (mostly because people rose earlier and went to bed earlier than people do today) that it was repealed in 1919 with a Congressional override of President Wilson's veto. Daylight Saving Time became a local option, and was continued in a few states, such as Massachusetts and Rhode Island, and in some cities, such as New York, Philadelphia, and Chicago.

During World War II, President Franklin Roosevelt instituted year-round Daylight Saving Time, called "War Time," from February 9, 1942 to September 30, 1945. [See law] From 1945 to 1966, there was no federal law regarding Daylight Saving Time, so states and localities were free to choose whether or not to observe Daylight Saving Time and could choose when it began and ended. This understandably caused confusion, especially for the broadcasting industry, as well as for railways, airlines, and bus companies. Because of the different local customs and laws, radio and TV stations and the transportation companies had to publish new schedules every time a state or town began or ended Daylight Saving Time.

On January 4, 1974, President Nixon signed into law the Emergency Daylight Saving Time Energy Conservation Act of 1973. Then, beginning on January 6, 1974, implementing the Daylight Saving Time Energy Act, clocks were set ahead. On October 5, 1974, Congress amended the Act, and Standard Time returned on October 27, 1974. Daylight Saving Time resumed on February 23, 1975 and ended on October 26, 1975.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I applaud this measure, ...

Perhaps you haven't taken into consideration the impact this is going to have on literally millions-upon-millions of electronic devices throughout the country?

Never mind the confusion it will create.

Every time they muck with DST, every device that "knows" when DST starts and stops has to be updated. A lot of those can't or won't be updated because their manufacturers regard them as "obsolete." Or because the makers are no more. Never mind they're still working well for their owners. Then there are the devices that were never designed to receive updates.

Stopping the whole DST thing entirely would have far less negative impact. Most of the devices I described have the ability to enable/disable DST. DST goes away? Turn it off on the devices.

But this? This is just going to create a disaster.

Which is about what I expect from government: Find the absolutely worst way to do something, then do it.

Lived in Australia for 18 years, had daylight savings time one time for a test. Otherwise they banned it.

I'll repeat what Ryanp225 said... would it not be more prudent to just change the operating hours of schools and businesses during the darker Winter months? There ain't no more sunshine in November through March let's just use what we got.

Pass it. I like the light in the evening. Don’t much care if it’s very light when I’m getting ready for work.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
But this? This is just going to create a disaster.

It will probably affect my old computers in the same way, so I'll have to do something like tell them I'm in a different time zone so the correct time is displayed.

My opinion about the measure is, however, like my opinion about the weather. I can like or dislike the weather without affecting it in the slightest. My wife likes it when it snows because it's been a very dry winter thus far and that increases the wildfire danger this summer. I, however, appreciate not having to shovel as much. But regardless of what we like or don't, the weather will be what it will be and so will daylight saving (not savings) time.

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Originally posted by kkina:
It's about time.

^^I remember that show (damn I'm old). And I counter with...

Since retired, morning light wakes me up, not the clock. But meh, I really don't care much either way. I've been adapting for many years so whatever they decide is fine with me.

What about the States that don't do daylight saving time? Will they forever be an hour different?