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And we Israel/US

Interesting choice of ordering those countries.

Come on, FB.



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He has always struck me as an Ivy League frat boy with his holier than though arrogance.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
If you can manage to separate, "Jewish" and "Israel" you'll see he's just fine. Netanyahu the Lithuanian-Pole agnostic has subverted the state of Israel into a bully that has a Ghetto, like Warsaw had in the 30's and 40's for Christian and Muslim Arabs in the Gaza Strip and to a lesser extent the west bank. That continually antagonizes it's neighbors in the interest of creating "greater Israel”. Now that Islamic republic of Iran is in it'd death throws Israel has already claimed Turkey as the next big bad guy.

You put “greater Israel” in quotes, are you actually quoting someone?

Is it Netanyahu who has proclaimed Turkey “the next big bad guy,” the Knesset, the IDF, or somebody on the internet?

On topic, I haven’t been watching Tucker for a quite a long time now, I used to. I still look at the subject matter and who he might be talking to, from time-to-time, just haven’t seen anything that sounded interesting to me.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:

And we Israel/US

Interesting choice of ordering those countries.

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There's no "come on" Find me a post with me listing countries on this website where I'm talking about the US and anyone else and I don't put the US first.

Both Carlson and Owens 180 degree turnabout is truly crazy. That being said, follow the money.

He is 56, too young to blame it on Dementia?

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If you can manage to separate, "Jewish" and "Israel" you'll see he's just fine.

He is not just fine, the way he has become an Islam apologist - and if you've been listening to and believing him, that would go a long way to explaining the nonsense in the rest of your post.

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He is 56, too young to blame it on Dementia?

My son in laws mother just passed. Mid 60's. The last number of years she started pontificating all sorts of political, health and science conspiracies. Kept progressing into accusing family members of spying and being against her. All sorts of weird shit always causing drama in the family. She seemed perfectly healthy. Got diagnosed with brain cancer a couple months back and just passed last week.

Have no proof that the cancer warped her brain causing all the weird stuff the last number of years but doctors say it's a good possibility. Maybe Tucker is living on borrowed time?

Tucker seems to of fallen off the reservation, like Glen Beck, and that Walsh guy.

Not saying you have to be fake, but you gotta read the room.

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Interesting choice of ordering those countries.

Alphabetical order.

As I see it, there is an ideological zombie mind virus. Shia LeBoufe was patient zero. Remember him. TDS before anyone knew what to call it. Turns out TDS is contagious and once contracted, turns the host’s mind into emotionalist mush.

You know wno else was infected early? Matt Drudge. Remember his aggregate website? Turned TDS pretty quickly. The site became unreadable propaganda. I used to read Drudge twice daily. Haven’t been to it even out of curiosity in seven + years.

While Carlson hasn’t gone metastatic TDS AFAIK, he has certainly been driving on the rumble strips with his turn signal ceaselessly flashing. He appears to be proud of his stubbornness of opinion like Beck was in 2016. He mistakes stubbornness for erudition. I quit watching Carlson like I quit watching Beck.

Come to think of it, Beck is the only broadcaster who recovered from TDS once infected.

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Tucker seems to of fallen off the reservation, like Glen Beck, and that Walsh guy.

Not saying you have to be fake, but you gotta read the room.

GB definitely “got high off his own supply” in the mid 2010’s.

Matt Walsh seems kind of smug and douche-y.

Tucker’s seeming alignments with Russia and Islamic nations are not his best traits. I think those traits make him less appealing to watch in my opinion, even if it is on unrelated subject matter.

The pagan occultist Styxhexenhammer666, weird as he is, is my opinion the best commentator on current events of the 4.

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Tucker seems to of fallen off the reservation, like Glen Beck, and that Walsh guy.

Not saying you have to be fake, but you gotta read the room.

Exactly what I was thinking.

I just had a horrible thought. What if Carlson and Owen's are right and we are the ones off the rails? Lord help us all.

The vast majority of people who are followed by whatever means because of what they have to say about politics are entertainers whose livelihoods and—even more important at some point in their careers—the sense of power they get from that strongest human evolutionary drive, i.e., influencing others, are dependent upon how many people pay attention to them.

The various news businesses do occasionally serve the useful purpose of providing information that is useful to their followers. One example is weather forecasts, and despite how inaccurate they often are. It’s also good for the majority of us to know things like who the President is (well, some of us anyway). Most of what they offer us, and which most of us eagerly consume is some sort of entertainment: stuff that has no real impact on our lives, but is … well, entertaining.*

There are many ways entertainers have been entertaining through the ages, and attacking the status quo has always been a popular one (where permitted, of course). What has, I believe, changed in recent years, is what the pundits that we follow have recognized that they can, and should, push the boundaries of what is acceptable in American society.

That of course has changed with public opinion over the years, but for example in the 1960s the voices against overt racism and discrimination started to be heard. I still recall a high school teacher’s praising The New York Times for avoiding the usual practice of mentioning an athlete’s race, i.e., it was just something like “the boxer” without saying that he was Black (or one of the accepted terms of the times).

For the next several decades personal attacks even on the most public figures were relatively subdued and at least somewhat respectful of the position. Another example was how the political cartoonist Herblock depicted Richard Nixon. Before he was elected President, the cartoonist always darkened his face to represent a heavy beard stubble. After his election, though, Herblock himself stated that because of his position he “deserved a shave,” and he stopped adding the stubble coloring. That didn’t mean Herblock changed his opinion about Nixon’s politics, but he was willing to show a tiny bit more respect for his position.

Even much more recently, we had Dan Quale’s supposed inability to spell potato and the horror of Sarah Palin writing notes to herself on the palm of her hand, both of which were pretty mild criticisms. But things have evolved. Although it started as nothing like the racist and sexist tirades against so-called “white” men that are so common today, under the Obama reign there was more than a whiff of the rising stench that was to come.

Since then of course attitudes have only become more obviously extremist. And extremism unchecked, not to mention actively encouraged, breeds extremism on all sides.

So, what does all that have to do with people like Carlson and countless others? Because they are entertainers whose livelihoods and sense of worth due to their influence over others depends on who pays attention to them, we can expect them to continue to entertain. They entertain their fans and the countless people who don’t like them, but who nevertheless contribute to their sense of influence and their revenue stream. In this day and age moderation doesn’t sell much, and even leftists would probably not get exercised by someone’s misspelling a word.

But why antisemitism and anti-Israel? Because there are more antisemites and anti-Israelites than there are those who support them. The reasons for that are several and varied, but the biggest are the bandwagon effect and as always stunningly pervasive ignorance about anything and everything relating to the current state of world affairs.

That is starkly illustrated by Internet videos of gays and “transgenders” who demonstrate in support of Muslim regimes and yet don’t have any idea of how people like them are treated in those countries. And when people who are allowed to walk the streets without keepers can be that ignorant about something so obvious, there is no reason to believe that the rest of the masses, and not just the Left, will have any appreciation for anything the least bit more complicated.

People like Carlson have simply figured out how to thrive in today’s culture, and thrive well. Like any type of proselytizer, it doesn’t matter in the least what their actual personal opinions or beliefs are; all that matters is that they know the right things to say to attract either fans or attentive opponents.

* And that’s not anything new or different about news-reporting businesses. Anyone who doubts that should read a few newspapers from the 19th century or before.

I don't know what happened to them and I don't particularly care about the reasons. Maybe their perceived fame went to their heads. Maybe they've been bought off by the dark forces all the conspiracy buffs talk about. Maybe they've always been batshit and it's a coincidence that it finally came out in both of them at the same time. They might have split up or they might have capsized; they may have broke deep and took water.

I don' care. All I know is that when I encounter their comments online these days, I just scroll right on past

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Originally posted by V-Tail:...Alphabetical order.

Was the first thing I thought.

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People like Carlson have simply figured out how to thrive in today’s culture, and thrive well. Like any type of proselytizer, it doesn’t matter in the least what their actual personal opinions or beliefs are; all that matters is that they know the right things to say to attract either fans or attentive opponents.

I don't think he's saying "the right things to say to attract either fans or attentive opponents". He knows he's losing support. I think he says what he thinks... even when he's off base.

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Turns out TDS is contagious and once contracted, turns the host’s mind into emotionalist mush.

I don't think he has TDS. He met with Trump at the White House within the past week.
He mostly agrees with Trump. He urged Trump not to strike Iran. I think he's wrong about that, among other things.