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Lighten up and laugh
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Originally posted by esdunbar:
Frankly, I'll do it again. Guys, I was on his ass for all of several seconds. Long enough for me to give him a "bruh?!?!?!?!?!?" hands up in a WTF manner.

Let's call it 3 or 4 seconds? and I don't know the distance, but it was enough to let him know I was emulating his conduct. I was in no danger of causing a 130 car pile up. I didn't follow him that way for miles. If that's unreasonable for some of y'all, so be it, but I'm good with that as my response.

If I escalated it to an unreasonable level in some of your minds, I'm ok with that. If you think you're educating me with some of these comments, you're not. I absolutely accept that my response was not needed and did not make a difference in the universe.

So again, I'm 100% comfortable with my response.

I'm wondering how far I should push getting him in trouble. I think I've gotten some great feedback to that end.

So instead of acting like an adult you chose to engage in aggressive and childish behavior? Good luck to you. Maybe try letting things go and get away from idiots instead of escalating things by trying to show them.
 
Posts: 7934 | Registered: September 29, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Flashlight, there was no rage at all sir. I think I actually kind of chuckled at the rediculousness of his expecting I could go somewhere. I was calm. I did it out of irony, not rage.

But I’m glad you drive safely and don’t speed. I mean, I assume you don’t speed because doing so would be an unsafe act with a vehicle and thus make you and others claiming high ground to be massive hypocrites right? Wink

My point is simply that some are going to awfully high ground over a relative minor action. I just hope y’all are cool with others jumping on you with insults when you do something relatively minor. If folks don’t agree with me, that’s fine, it’s part of life. People going to insults and other bullshit when we’re all part of the same community...seems silly to me.

If such an action means I don’t deserve your respect, ok, but I don’t think I’m the one raging my friends. Folks can say they think I was wrong, I accept some will. It’s the name calling and drastic crap I find to be a bit much.

Hey man, I don’t think what you did was right either, I’d really think about that. It was irresponsible.

You’re a road raging juvenile who I’ll never be friends with!

See what I’m sayin?

Accks, I gotta say, I found your post a bit ironic, then I saw your cut and found it really ironic tbh.

I don’t think it was childish. I though it was actually ironic. My tailgating him was ironic...does that make any sense? Honestly, no rage, all irony. I was mimicking him to show him was being unreasonable.

Is it childish? I dunno, but I don’t think it’s cause for a national emergency.
 
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You sound angry and stubborn.
 
Posts: 13896 | Location: Shenandoah Valley, VA | Registered: October 16, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Lol, stubborn I must own! Guilty as charged. I don’t think I’ve been described as angry though. At least not since I’ve been older and had kids.

But your post is kinda what I’m saying. What you said is a shitty thing to say. Have I wronged you somehow?
 
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You reported. Let it go.
No sense in getting your BP up over comments. Let it go.

There will be other assholes on the road to worry about in 3...2..1. Let them go. (even if they're going nowhere)


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Posts: 3918 | Location: Central AZ | Registered: October 26, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I say drop it now. You called the cops and reported it. Let them take it from here.

I agree that you did not help the situation by tailgating him. It doesn't justify what he did in any way, but I always try to be extra "mellow" when I'm driving - there's just too many idiots out there.

Just today, I was making a left turn on the arrow when an idiot in the oncoming lane blew the light and forced me to slam on the brakes. I just waited for him to go through and then proceeded. My wife was indignant: "Aren't you even going to honk!?"

Nope. Not worth it.


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I say drop it now. You called the cops and reported it. Let them take it from here.

I agree that you did not help the situation by tailgating him. It doesn't justify what he did in any way, but I always try to be extra "mellow" when I'm driving - there's just too many idiots out there.

Just today, I was making a left turn on the arrow when an idiot in the oncoming lane blew the light and forced me to slam on the brakes. I just waited for him to go through and then proceeded. My wife was indignant: "Aren't you even going to honk!?"

Nope. Not worth it.


I agree with this. Years ago, I used to give the finger when someone cut me off. Now, I just back off and let them go where they want to go. I do not get involved or escalate. It's not worth it. Too many crazies out there. Let the police handle things, and in the future do not do anything to escalate situations. If someone outright attacks you, respond with force. Otherwise, let the idiots be idiots. It is just not worth getting into those situations. Think maturity above pride.
 
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I had a carload give me the finger a few years back, because I wouldn’t accelerate towards a fresh red light just ahead. For some reason it didn’t bother me much on the 2-lane road, they passed.

I may of muttered some words their way, that was about it.
 
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Anyone else reading through this thread and thinking to himself "yeah, I really do need to do a better job to avoid tailgating and reactive driving"?

I've been guilty of jamming on my brakes, moving across lanes, etc. The older I get, the less I can justify it, so (generally) the less I do it.

Note to self: let it go.


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I've been in a similar situation, albeit without a weapon being pulled.

I drive a Chevy Express Van, with about 1,200lbs of parts in it. When driving in congested traffic, I try to leave 2 car lengths minimum, but inventively someone decides they need that spot.

I'm now faced with two chices, slow down again, inviting someone else to jump in front of me (and pissing off those behind me) or to keep at my original place, but now only 1/2 a car behind the one that just cut in?

I used to slow down, but like I said, they continued to cut in, so I now choose to stay where I was (untill traffic clears back up). Sometimes, the person that cut in will give me the one finger salute (guessing they don't like seeing my grill in their rear-view mirror), but I no longer give it any thought. I do stay ready for break lights, and I have my dash cam.

I'm now a firm believer that people need to learn that often times that spot in front of a van or truck is there for the protection of the vehicle in front of said van or truck, and if they choose to cut in, they are only putting themselves at harm.




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Accks, I gotta say, I found your post a bit ironic, then I saw your cut and found it really ironic tbh.

I don’t think it was childish. I though it was actually ironic. My tailgating him was ironic...does that make any sense? Honestly, no rage, all irony. I was mimicking him to show him was being unreasonable.

Is it childish? I dunno, but I don’t think it’s cause for a national emergency.


Yeah, I don't know what you were trying to say there past you were basically like the 5-year-old repeating everything someone says because you were pissed. You engaged in road rage and someone negative happened. News at 9. You started a thread, so people are going to comment. I'm sure it wasn't a great way to start your day, but thankfully you didn't get shot.

As far as what to do, the police are fully capable of following up if they need to.
 
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Sweet baby Jesus Gibb gets it! Please reread his post haters.

Follow along kids...if I had 1.5 to 2 car lengths in between me and the car in front of me, and 'ol Wyatt Earp cuts in front of me, how close am I to his bumper? If the high end of my estimate of two cars was correct and he evenly split the distance, I was within a half of a car. I'd guess it was a little closer than that though.

I didn't slow or hit my brakes. I stayed on his bumper, where he put himself, for a few seconds and gave him a shoulder shrug/"do you see the problem now" gesture.

Now I've gotta deal with folks calling me an asshole, immature, childish, angry, stubborn...did I leave any names out? I mean, some of y'all need a drink.
 
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I recommend folks stop posting and let OP enjoy his rationalization. Lol.


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You should’ve just said up front that you only wanted us to agree with what you did.
 
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Leemur, plenty of folks have disagreed in this thread. That's fine by me. It's not what I asked in my question, but thread drifts are just fine. Note, I didn't take any objection to your first post where you disagreed with me. I took issue with some bullshit name calling that served no purpose and wasn't warranted imo.

I can disagree with your post as I did. I said I thought it was a shitty thing to say to someone. Did I insult you? I still maintain that what you said was a shitty thing to say to someone in a conversation. If you're cool with it, so be it. I won't insult you as a result, even though I think you're a bit deserving of one for that.

I don't think folks have to agree, it's a discussion forum. Dissent is a given. People getting personal when it's totally uncalled for is just ridiculous in my opinion.

And 12131, I'm not rationalizing anything. I said I was content with my actions. I likewise said I accept some think them wrong. In a conversation I don't usually expect name calling to just randomly start out when everyone is "friends" and I'm conveying a story and asking for advice. You said my actions were dumb...I didn't say anything to you. That's a fair comment.

My issue is with the comments of Maximus, flashlight, ackks and Leemur (not his first one, his subsequent ones).

Doesn't really matter though. I got some good advice and appreciate it. Frankly, it changed what I was going to do and I think it's a better decision, so I got the help I was looking for.
 
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You were 100% in the right and should have manned up to prove it. You didn't start it, but you didn't exactly finish it either. The second the gun cleared leather, you should have rammed him into the guardrail. Your story then is he pointed the gun at you and you were in fear for your life. The police investigating the incident will find the gun which will corroborate your story.

Or, you got cut off in traffic. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last. You could come to the understanding that Karma has a way of catching up to these people and you don't have to go out of your way to prove yourself to be the bigger jerk.

Personally, I'm working on the second option. Calling the police was as far as I would have taken it.
 
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You really don’t see how your reactions here are affecting the tone of discussion? IMO it shows how you deal with things and your admission of how you handled the road incident confirms it. Breathe, let it go, move on.
 
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Originally posted by 12131:
I recommend folks stop posting and let OP enjoy his rationalization. Lol.


Good one. Smile
 
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Originally posted by Leemur:
You really don’t see how your reactions here are affecting the tone of discussion? IMO it shows how you deal with things and your admission of how you handled the road incident confirms it. Breathe, let it go, move on.


Well now there is some more irony. I'm calm friend. When someone who brings name calling into a discussion throws around accusations of others affecting the tone of a discussion...honestly I got a chuckle out of that one.

And I am moving, lol I thanked folks for their input! I'm good man, the thread was helpful and served it's purpose. Now you're all, "how you deal with things..." Holy hell man, you seriously are being rude.

Please, stop posting here. Bye, I don't wish to chat with you.
 
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I haven’t been name calling. Serious chip on your shoulder bud.
 
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