I guess I may be a wuss, after he passed on the right I’d let him go, not ‘show him my front bumper’.

I had a guy acting up similarly about a year ago, no gun. I called 911, gave the car description, plate number and exit then left it be. I do have a dash cam, no reason to save video.

As Vtail said, in FL that would be brandishing, people shouldn't get away with it, pulling a gun from a holster was a sign of aggression against you not for self defense.

Too bad you don't have a camera with a record of the incident, I doubt they'll do anything to him without additional witness or video, but he needs to know doing that has consequences.

Everyone knows the proper response to a tailgater isn't to pull your gun...

Fuck him...

make it a learning experience for your aggressor, call it in , always call it in.

it may be his first time , it may be his third, he might have warrants out,

call the man !

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Originally posted by esdunbar:
A little bit of closeness to show him how unreasonable he was being...

You showed him something, but that wasn't it.

I'd write if off as lucky I didn't happen across someone who took it further, learn from that and move on. You're not the protector of the universe, but can perhaps do a better job of looking out for you and yours?

Frankly, I'll do it again. Guys, I was on his ass for all of several seconds. Long enough for me to give him a "bruh?!?!?!?!?!?" hands up in a WTF manner.

Let's call it 3 or 4 seconds? and I don't know the distance, but it was enough to let him know I was emulating his conduct. I was in no danger of causing a 130 car pile up. I didn't follow him that way for miles. If that's unreasonable for some of y'all, so be it, but I'm good with that as my response.

If I escalated it to an unreasonable level in some of your minds, I'm ok with that. If you think you're educating me with some of these comments, you're not. I absolutely accept that my response was not needed and did not make a difference in the universe.

So again, I'm 100% comfortable with my response.

I'm wondering how far I should push getting him in trouble. I think I've gotten some great feedback to that end.

Maybe calling it in will save someone from being shot..

Assholes like you ran into and the guy in the article are part of the reason new laws are proposed and gun rights are attacked.


Man shoots school bus driver in road rage incident

To be bluntly honest, it sounds like it was a collision of assholes.

Left lane campers always have some excuse. If your not passing a vehicle, get out of the left lane. That’s real simple.

Of course that doesn’t mean he shoulda waved a gun around.

Never escalate a situation in traffic. There is no winners.

That is exactly the reason that I have a dash cam running all the time I'm driving. It sure as hell takes the he said/she said out of the equation !

HRK, that story and some others posting comments to the same point are what have convinced me it was worth calling in.

Others have also convinced me that a follow up call in a few days is worth it, if for no other reason to learn what my local police are doing, or not doing, with serious things like this.

I won't be at a town hall "demanding justice" or any of that BS, but really just curious to see if anything came of it.

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Originally posted by maximus_flavius:
To be bluntly honest, it sounds like it was a collision of assholes.

Left lane campers always have some excuse. If your not passing a vehicle, get out of the left lane. That’s real simple.

Of course that doesn’t mean he shoulda waved a gun around.

Never escalate a situation in traffic. There is no winners.

I was passing. It was impossible for me, and let's call it then next 20 cars in front of me to go any faster. Literally couldn't see who was at the front of the line going slow. We were doing about 70 in a 65. Right lane was packed as well going slower. I'm not even sure they were at 65. That's the scene.

What would you have me do oh master of the left lane?

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Best you might get is a mutual summons to court for road rage or peace disturbance.

given the events as described, that would seem appropriate.

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Originally posted by esdunbar:

So again, I'm 100% comfortable with my response.

Really? You shouldn't be.

Keep playing those games, eventually you won't be happy with your prize.

I'm no saint I've done stupid stuff like that before, but ten seconds later I realize how stupid it was. I don't want to be break checked or have me or the other driver hurt others on the road.

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Then he suddenly holds up a pistol in a holster!!! I was kind of shocked. Then, to make sure I knew what he was holding up, he lowers it and takes it out of the holster and holds it up again.

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I got news for you. He ain’t “one of us” of any group I’m part of.

Nope. He's not “one of us” of any group I’m part of either. I have never displayed or shown anyone a firearm in anger. He's an asshole.

But... having said that, calling it in was enough. If the police want to follow up, they will. If not, let it go.

I'll reiterate. I think you did the right thing by calling it in. There is simply no excuse for his conduct. None.

My take:

You were immature for playing bumper with him. Really? That's awfully juvenile to play that game with 3,500 lbs.

He's equally immature and off his rocker for displaying guys gun like they. Five-O can deal with him.

He's not part of any "he's one of us" crowd that I have it with and neither are you.

Both juveniles.

Definitely the right move to call it in and file a report. There is zero justification for unholstering a firearm during routine traffic. If that little provocation was enough to get him to display a firearm, he has zero business carrying. Also, along the I4 corridor and in South Florida, your response would be considered commonplace. I see way worse behavior on a daily basis.

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He's not part of any "he's one of us" crowd that I have it with and neither are you .

Both juveniles.

Honestly, I don't get this shit and similar comments, but it's ok. I'm sure you and others with similar comments do or have done something I wouldn't or that I don't think is right. I mean, my man, flat out disowning and calling names to someone who never insulted you over a couple seconds of tailgating? Yikes!

So my question was should I pursue it more than the call I already made? Your thoughts on that would be appreciated.

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Originally posted by Shaql:

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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Yes, that is why the second line of my post ends with the word "here."

Here could be interpreted as in "here, in this instance" vs "Here in the state of Missouri".

Words mean stuff!

I know. I am on my tablet and hate typing on it. I was being brief, perhaps too much.

I knew what you meant Kevin. Here it is a Misdemeanor to wave it about, not a Felony, but still illegal.

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Originally posted by esdunbar:

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He's not part of any "he's one of us" crowd that I have it with and neither are you .

Both juveniles.

Honestly, I don't get this shit and similar comments, but it's ok. I'm sure you and others with similar comments do or have done something I wouldn't or that I don't think is right. I mean, my man, flat out disowning and calling names to someone who never insulted you over a couple seconds of tailgating? Yikes!

So my question was should I pursue it more than the call I already made? Your thoughts on that would be appreciated.

Playing bumper on the road out of road rage, with other cars, innocent ones too, puts them at risk too. You wanna play road rage go do it with him on an empty road

Your vehicle is far more deadly than any bullets in his gun. I try my level best to avoid doing stupid shit on the road but when I do something that irks other drivers or someone is having a bad day and behind the wheel, I move and let them pass.

So what if the other driver tells the cops that you were threatening him with your vehicle? I see posts here saying you were playing bumper so that was his reaction to your potential ADW that he perceived by you.

Don't make trouble, don't look for and avoid it.