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Jimbo Jones
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Agree.

A gunowner that is going to try and intimidate people with their gun when their life is not being threatened needs to have a conversation with the LEOs on responsible gun ownership.

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Originally posted by arfmel:
It’s in LEO’s hands now. I agree that you did right by calling it in, and I hope there are consequences for him.


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Just another example of why you should never engage people like this, no matter how tempting at that instant. You already had all the proof you needed that he was not in control of his actions and emotions before you decided to tailgate him. As you proved, you simply cannot predict the response. This time, it was brandishing, next time....?



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Originally posted by esdunbar:


This dick behind me is all over my bumper. When he gets an opportunity to pass me on the right, he jumps in the right lane and zooms past me. So I return the favor and let him get a good look at my front bumper. Then I hold up hands like, "where was I supposed to go Bub? Do you see there's no where to go?"

Then he flicks me off and points to the right, like I was slower traffic and should have been in the right lane. Keep in mind, we aren't going any faster as the long of cars is still in front of us. Only difference is, he's tailgating the guy in front of him and I'm tailgating him...cause that's smart.

Then he suddenly holds up a pistol in a holster!!!


From your description, I wouldn't want to be on the road with either one of you.

Let's look at a possible statement he might give when the police come to talk to him.

I got a late start for work and the traffic was really bad this morning. I was driving behind this guy and he had a couple car lengths of space ahead of him. I knew I was running late and I was grabbing every chance to move ahead that I could. I had a chance so I passed this guy and pulled back into the fast lane. I look in my mirror and I see this guy waving his hands like he is really pissed and he starts tailgateing me. I was afraid he might do something stupid so I wave my gun that is in my holster in hopes that it might deter him. I've got a permit for it and I know it was a stupid thing to do, but I was almost at my exit and I didn't want this guy following me to work.


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I think the call was enough. I wouldn't make a trip to the police station. They'll follow up on the call, if that is what they do.

You could call again and ask what steps were taken.



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He never pointed it at you correct? He showed you he was in possession of a gun, not brandished.

The DA wouldn't issue charges here.

Also, you escalated the situation.

Best you might get is a mutual summons to court for road rage or peace disturbance.




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Originally posted by KevinCW:

He never pointed it at you correct? He showed you he was in possession of a gun, not brandished.
You are in Missouri, Kevin -- correct? Mr. Dunbar is in Ohio. I do not know what the law is in either of those states, as I am in Florida. Deliberately displaying a gun (as opposed to accidental, unintentional, exposure) here in Florida is a violation. I am not certain whether the term used here is "brandishing," but if you show a gun, on purpose, in a situation like this, you have violated Florida statute(s).


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Yes, that is why the second line of my post ends with the word "here."




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I got news for you. He ain’t “one of us” of any group I’m part of.



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Originally posted by esdunbar:

Should I go down to the PD station and file a report officially and demand follow up?
Yes

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Should I just let it go?
No

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Part of me doesn't want to get a gun owner aka "one of us" in trouble if he just had an epic brain fart of a lifetime, but then again, part of me is like, he's the kind of dipshit who makes us all look bad and shouldn't have a gun.
He's not one of us, he's a fucking ass clown who should reap it.

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He had sports stickers in back windows and one of them was of a local school system. So he's a family guy...I dunno, I'm just wondering if he's a good guy who had a really bad moment? Follow up with police and drill his ass? I'm conflicted and looking for input, but I'm leaning towards drill his ass.

Drill his ass. I don't give a fuck if his kids play sports or are in the honors program. He's a fucking moron who should reap his just rewards for being a complete and utter asshole.

I don't care if he's not 'charged', hopefully the cops interviewing him will be enough to make him think twice next time.
 
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He might have been showing you his 1st new gun.
Power tripping with a weapon...
 
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Originally posted by esdunbar:


This dick behind me is all over my bumper. When he gets an opportunity to pass me on the right, he jumps in the right lane and zooms past me. So I return the favor and let him get a good look at my front bumper. Then I hold up hands like, "where was I supposed to go Bub? Do you see there's no where to go?"

Then he flicks me off and points to the right, like I was slower traffic and should have been in the right lane. Keep in mind, we aren't going any faster as the long of cars is still in front of us. Only difference is, he's tailgating the guy in front of him and I'm tailgating him...cause that's smart.

Then he suddenly holds up a pistol in a holster!!!


From your description, I wouldn't want to be on the road with either one of you.

Let's look at a possible statement he might give when the police come to talk to him.

I got a late start for work and the traffic was really bad this morning. I was driving behind this guy and he had a couple car lengths of space ahead of him. I knew I was running late and I was grabbing every chance to move ahead that I could. I had a chance so I passed this guy and pulled back into the fast lane. I look in my mirror and I see this guy waving his hands like he is really pissed and he starts tailgateing me. I was afraid he might do something stupid so I wave my gun that is in my holster in hopes that it might deter him. I've got a permit for it and I know it was a stupid thing to do, but I was almost at my exit and I didn't want this guy following me to work.


I mean, let's not got too high and mighty. A little bit of closeness to show him how unreasonable he was being is not me trading paint and flailing my arms all about.

And if that was his statement, he would be admitting to a crime in the state of Ohio.

I appreciate the input all. I'll follow up in a couple of days and see if anything came of it. Thank you.
 
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Let it go. Forget it.
If the police contact you, answer the questions truthfully. But don't worry about it.


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I'd leave it with the report you already made. I think that was the right thing to do, but I'd leave it there.

Hopefully they'll follow it up and charge him. There was no excuse for what he did, IMO.


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You got video of it?

Without that, I don’t think you have legs.

You may need to let it go.
 
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Nope, no video of it.
 
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Originally posted by KevinCW:
not brandished.


Kevin I have to disagree waving, raising is brandishing. Pointing at would be assault.


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Originally posted by arfmel:
It’s in LEO’s hands now. I agree that you did right by calling it in, and I hope there are consequences for him.


this

can't imagine ever 'showing my gun' for mere traffic shenanigans

sheesh. some people are crazy.

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1- Should never have "returned the favor". Hate to be blunt, but that was dumb.

2- You called 911. It's done. Move on.


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Originally posted by KevinCW:
Yes, that is why the second line of my post ends with the word "here."


Here could be interpreted as in "here, in this instance" vs "Here in the state of Missouri".

Words mean stuff! Wink




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Originally posted by V-Tail:
I have a tendency to push back against assholes, but when I'm carrying, I tend to turn into a mild-mannered polite guy and just let things go, as I do not want to get into any sort of confrontation.


+1.


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