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Originally posted by sigfreund:

My question, however, isn’t to those people or about those beliefs. It is directed at those who might have concerns, or at least focused thoughts, from a personal individual standpoint about when—not if—they contract the disease. As I said, I haven’t seen much discussion here about that, and therefore I’m curious: Am I the only one who wouldn’t like to lose 30% of my lung function or suffer any of the other serious effects that have been blamed on the disease? Or is all that considered to be so unlikely or because there’s nothing we can do to prevent it that there’s no sense even thinking about it?

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Originally posted by jljones:
Your concern and question are completely irrational without perspective. Of course, no one wants or would like to lose 30 percent of lung function. But, I’m guessing if you also polled people, no one would be interested in being paralyzed from the waist down after being in a collision with a texting driver. I doubt anyone would want to have a colostomy bag after being stabbed by a random act of violence by a COVID release felon in the parking lot of the store. Yet, these things happen. We do things to minimize our risk of them happening. But, they still happen. Those most at risk take extra precautions. But what we do not do is I stop going to h the store to make sure you don’t get stabbed. I don’t stop driving to make sure you don’t get involved in a collision. And I certainly don’t dwell on the fact that I could be paralyzed in a collision one day.

We measure and mitigate risk. And frankly, if we had real numbers that weren’t being heavily doctored and influenced the risk of losing lung function is likely about the same as a bad car wreck. Or less.

If you choose to make what I consider to be bad life choices such as smoking, I don’t call the health department and snitch you out. If you decide to smoke in a public place, I simply move away from you so I do not have to smell it. I DO NOT call the police “for the greater good” even though smoking in public is illegal. Frankly, I’ve said it many times, if you want to smoke drain cleaner at home, you should be allowed to without government interference. You should be completely allowed to screw your life up as bad as what you wish, it’s the cost of being free.

Gun control pushers often sell fear by asking if you want your kids to be shot at school. They allude to the fact that it will happen if law abiding gun owners aren’t disarmed. It’s the same tactic we are seeing right now by the rabid left.

I’m not being surly in the least by saying that I can take all the precautions in the world and still get hit by a drunk driver. I don’t stop going places because of a fear it might happen. I do what I can. Hell, when I come to an intersection with a one way street, I look twice in the direction that traffic doesn’t flow to make sure. But, I don’t dwell on it.

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If the stay at home order is extended for a year, when it's lifted someone is going to get Covid and die. If the standard is we stay at home until not a single person gets Covid, then we will live in quarantine forever - and people will STILL get infected and die.

The quarantine was to flatten the curve, not eliminate it. The curve refers to the rate of infection. Flattening the RATE of infection, NOT eliminating infections. That was NEVER the intention, nor is it even reasonable or possible to do that. The quarantine was to slow the RATE of infection so that healthcare resources would not be overwhelmed over a short period of time.

THE SAME NUMBER OF PEOPLE WILL GET INFECTED OVER TIME WITH OR WITHOUT THE QUARANTINE.

Why don't people understand this very simple, easy to understand concept? Once infections have spiked, businesses HAVE to re-open and people just need to be careful and take common sense precautions.

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Many protesters downtown Friday were not wearing face masks, despite a countywide requiremthat went into effect Friday mandating they be worn when in public places. Dozens of police officers were on the scene, but did not issue any citations, according to San Diego Lt. Shawn Takeuchi

He said the department will consider forwarding misdemeanor cases against organizers to the city attorney, as they have for two previous protests in recent weeks, but otherwise “understand people are very upset and angry.”

The police presence, he said, was designed to keep additional crimes from being committed, not to enforce public health orders.

“We are constantly balancing First Amendment rights with the law; it’s a very tricky balance … They’re expressing their First Amendment right to protest,” Takeuchi said. “The minute you have law enforcement ending protests, it can be viewed as authoritarian rule. It would go against the foundation of our country.”

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
My concern, then, is what happens when I and my wife and others in our age and health categories do catch it. I haven’t seen much discussion by others here of the same question, and I’m curious why.

Comments?

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
My question, however, isn’t to those people or about those beliefs. It is directed at those who might have concerns, or at least focused thoughts, from a personal individual standpoint about when—not if—they contract the disease. As I said, I haven’t seen much discussion here about that, and therefore I’m curious: Am I the only one who wouldn’t like to lose 30% of my lung function or suffer any of the other serious effects that have been blamed on the disease? Or is all that considered to be so unlikely or because there’s nothing we can do to prevent it that there’s no sense even thinking about it?

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
I realize I've been overly outspoken about this issue. Clearly I've been annoying the membership, and I apologize. The forum is just one of a few places where I can vent, but obviously I've been taking that for granted. I'll try to do more reading than posting for the time being.

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
It's a marine industry thing.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
^^^ I see you have the first openly lezbo governor in US history. Great.

I feel for you.