Kind of hard to believe but check this polling data out.
Moore up by 10.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...re-after-wapo-smear/

Exclusive — Alabama Polls: Judge Roy Moore Maintains Double Digit Lead Over Democrat Doug Jones Before, After WaPo Smear

While Moore is unquestionably a judicial activist, his brand of activism is no doubt popular in those parts (he doesn't like "the gays" and thinks they shouldn't be able to marry, which can't be a rare opinion in the otherwise fine state of Alabama), and he's still (I'm personally appalled to say) probably better for everyone than the alternative.

Only a scandal like this, if true, can derail the Moore train, and only an opponent as bad as Strange, in a state like Alabama, could've gotten Moore this far in the first place. Alabama deserves Moore, and will probably get him if he's indeed innocent of this particular accusation. But if it's true, he definitely needs to lose, as *that's* too much to deal with.

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Kind of hard to believe but check this polling data out.
Moore up by 10.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...re-after-wapo-smear/

Exclusive — Alabama Polls: Judge Roy Moore Maintains Double Digit Lead Over Democrat Doug Jones Before, After WaPo Smear

Maybe the AL folks are smart enough to see through the unproven fake shit that the commies and the establishment RINO scums are trying to pull.

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Originally posted by lbj:
Kind of hard to believe but check this polling data out.
Moore up by 10.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...re-after-wapo-smear/

Exclusive — Alabama Polls: Judge Roy Moore Maintains Double Digit Lead Over Democrat Doug Jones Before, After WaPo Smear

Maybe the AL folks are smart enough to see through the unproven fake shit that the commies and the establishment RINO scums are trying to pull.

I think most of are. Headlines this AM: "More Alabamians believe Moore than the WaPO."

As I said before, he wasn't my first choice, but I will take him over the democrat any day.

RMD

So the election is Dec 12th??? So, We've got another month of this crap before the election.

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While Moore is unquestionably a judicial activist, his brand of activism is no doubt popular in those parts (he doesn't like "the gays" and thinks they shouldn't be able to marry, which can't be a rare opinion in the otherwise fine state of Alabama),

Does anyone else see an argument for federalism here?
The answers to difficult social issues should be decided by the people of the several States, not imposed by our masters in Washington, DC.

The Constitution of the United States does not define marriage, or when life begins.

The people of Alabama and the people of 'liberal' states like New York and California may see these issues quite differently.
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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So the election is Dec 12th??? So, We've got another month of this crap before the election.

Yeah, and you think that fake 'Russian Dossier' had a bunch of outlandish nonsense in it, you can bet the WaPo/NYT/network media will be throwing out every unsubstantiated 'rumor' they 'hear' over the next month. None of it will be vetted and they will say that due to the urgent nature of the election they have to temporarily suspend their normal standards.

If the dems want to ensure a Moore victory, this plan would do it - bussing in a bunch of liberal yankees to go door-to-door telling people to vote for Jones should do it.

Without knowing ANYTHING ELSE about him, I already like the guy because of this pic, taken in context...

November 12, 2017

Roy Moore vs. the Swamp

The Swamp is in full panic mode. They are pulling out the big guns. They claim Judge Roy Moore is a pedophile and cannot be allowed to represent the good people of the great state of Alabama. If Moore wins the election the Senate should refuse to seat him. The Washington Post claims it stumbled across this story by accident:

“While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore’s Senate campaign, a Post reporter heard that Moore allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls.”

The Swamp media would have us believe that they do not have a double standard when it comes to conservatives. When Sarah Palin was selected for vice president David Corn claimed, “Alaska’s getting pretty crowded…with investigative reporters and scandal-chasers.” Six weeks after being offered an exclusive story by Paula Jones the Post printed nothing. The Post's managing editor, Robert Kaiser claimed, "We have an obligation to the Post's readers to do our best to establish the truth and not simply to print damaging accusations the moment they are made."

The authors of the Washington Post article on Moore is very conscious of the problems the paper has with credibility. They go to great lengths to establish the main accuser’s bona fides. Leigh Corfman is not like Paula Jones, who Newsweek’s Evan Thomas called "some sleazy woman with big hair coming out of the trailer parks." McCrummen claims, “none of the women has donated to or worked for Moore’s Democratic opponent.” Corfman voted for Republicans and even voted for Trump. She described her story consistently in six interviews with The Post. Neither Corfman nor any of the other women sought out The Post. All were initially reluctant to speak. Corfman claims, “I have prayed over this.” She is obviously what the Post’s Michael Weisskopf called one of the people who are “largely poor, uneducated, and easy to command.”

The Swamp accepts Corfman’s allegations without reservations. No one from the Swamp asked, “Why is this coming out now?” After 38 years, is it possible that the memories of a girl from a broken home might be distorted.

Corfman has been divorced three times and has been plagued by financial problems. She blames her chaotic teenage recklessness, drinking, drug abuse, promiscuity and a suicide attempt on Moore. By contrast Moore is a West Point graduate, a Vietnam veteran, a law school graduate, and what some would describe as a “holy roller.” This is not to say that “holy rollers” have not been known to “misbehave.” People have to decide who is more credible.

The question of credibility frequently depends on which side of the political spectrum an individual is on. Members of the Swamp will immediately side with Corfman. The Swamp creatures have revealed themselves yet again. Mitch McConnell is leading the charge. McConnell stated, “If these allegations are true, he must step aside.” He was followed by Sen. Jeff Flake who argued, “If there is any shred of truth to the allegations against Roy Moore, he should step aside immediately.” Sen. Susan Collins said, “If there is any truth at all to these horrific allegations, Roy Moore should immediately step aside as a Senate candidate.” Sen. Lisa Murkowski said, “I’m horrified.” Sen. Rob Portman said, “It was very troubling … if what we read is true and people are on the record so I assume it is.” Sen. John McCain had no doubts about Moore’s guilt. He tweeted, “The allegations against Roy Moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. He should immediately step aside and allow the people of Alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of.” All of these Senators are Republicans and member of the Swamp.

McConnell and the other Swamp creatures would rather have a Democrat in this Alabama Senate seat. George H.W. Bush voted for Hillary Clinton and is an unlikely Moore supporter. Max Boot, a Rubio consultant said, “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump.” He is also an unlikely Moore supporter. These are not 38-year-old allegations.

The Swamp’s Claude Rains imitations are unconvincing. Presently Senator Bob Menendez is being investigated for financial corruption. Federal prosecutors believe that “defendants Menendez and Melgen had sex with underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic." These are not 38-year-old allegations. Three women who made the prostitution allegations later recanted and said they were paid to level the charges. Who paid them? Is the Post interested?

Sen. Lindsey Graham has testified as a character witness for Menendez. Are Swamp creatures outraged by the recent release of FBI documents claiming Martin Luther King engaged in sex orgies? Are they outraged by a Hollywood producer, Roman Polanski, who drugged and raped a 13-year-old? Or was this not a case of “rape-rape?”

Charges of sexual misconduct have been successfully used by the Swamp in the past. In 1989 Senator John Tower was nominated for Secretary of Defense. The day the debate on Tower's nomination began in the Senate, Bob Woodward’s article entitled, "Incidents at Defense Base Cited, Drunkenness, Harassment of Women Alleged" appeared on the front page of the Washington Post. Bob Woodward reported that informed sources claimed Tower had been drunk at Bergstrom Air Force Base.

Tower was not confirmed and the next day it was revealed that Woodward’s source was discharged from the Air Force for psychiatric reasons. Another story used against him was that he danced naked on a grand piano with his mistress, a Russian ballerina. This was reported by Leslie Stahl on CBS, even though the FBI had reported they had reason to believe it was not true.

Rarely has a pile-on been more hypocritical than when Sen. Ted Kennedy told students at Yale University that he was "troubled" by reports that John Tower drank excessively and made improper advances toward women.

For many Trump supporters, an attack on Judge Moore by McCain is the next thing to an endorsement. If McCain opposes him he must be a patriot. The president missed a great opportunity to embarrass the Swamp. He reportedly said that Moore will “step aside” if the charges are true. He should have mentioned that in light of the Swamp’s past behavior this is unlikely that the charges are true.

http://www.americanthinker.com...re_vs_the_swamp.html

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While Moore is unquestionably a judicial activist, his brand of activism is no doubt popular in those parts (he doesn't like "the gays" and thinks they shouldn't be able to marry, which can't be a rare opinion in the otherwise fine state of Alabama),

Does anyone else see an argument for federalism here?

The answers to difficult social issues should be decided by the people of the several States, not imposed by our masters in Washington, DC.

The Constitution of the United States does not define marriage, or when life begins.

The people of Alabama and the people of 'liberal' states like New York and California may see these issues quite differently.
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Thank you,well stated.

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They claim Judge Roy Moore is a pedophile

This is another thing that drives me insane. A pedophile, by definition, is into pre-pubescent children. An older guy into teenagers is not a pedophile.

Federalism is a fine idea, fraught with significant issues in practice.

Same with the inverse.

I don't know what the best solution is.

New York shouldn't be able to have such draconian gun laws.

Mississippi shouldn't be able to teach nonsense like "Intelligent Design".

There are a great many issues, unfortunately, that ought to overrule States Rights.

And no easy way of dealing with it all.

Ah, go back to De Toqueville. Part of what makes life interesting here is that there are at least two democratic learning processes going on here. The first is the idea that each state is, to some degree, a laboratory of democracy where we can find out what best suits people and what best solutions there are to the problems we face.

The second is the process that we as a people go through. Each generation has certain things it has to relearn, each generation can take advantage of what was learned in the past. The point, though, is that living in a democracy is expected to give people a chance to develop themselves intellectually and morally as well as refine what we expect from democratic government.

That means that, by definition, there will always be some who will be behind what others consider the curve - and that their right to occupy whatever position they hold on the curve is protected by federalism.

That also means that someone who wants to change things for whatever they think is "the better" cannot simply rely on winning political offices, court cases and the immediate debates over whatever the media consider to be the driving issues of the day. The only way to do it in the context of a democracy is to persuade people to change the way they think and, by extension, live (which, IMHO, holds true regardless of what form of government we're talking about).

You might say that one aspect of federalism as we (at least theoretically) practice it is that everyone crosses the Jordan together rather than leaving the stragglers behind.

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They claim Judge Roy Moore is a pedophile

This is another thing that drives me insane. A pedophile, by definition, is into pre-pubescent children. An older guy into teenagers is not a pedophile.

It's one of those words that's changed meaning over time. Like the word "Civilian" which has a different meaning today, based on years of misuse.

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There are a great many issues, unfortunately, that ought to overrule States Rights.

... by those who wish to impose their opinion on the people of all 50 states.

Apparently, Gloria Allred is representing one of the accusers

http://www.washingtonexaminer....user/article/2640502

For those not in the know, Allred is the mother of Lisa Bloom, former attorney of Harvey Weinstein.

I just heard Mitch McConnell say Moore should step down and that he believes the women.

Translation: leading the senate is too hard and I want to give control back to the democrats.

Mitch 'ol boy, I can't WAIT until the left pulls this on you. I will be writing you a letter demanding you resign and letting you know I believe your accusers.

Translation: I didn't get Luther Strange in through the front door, so maybe I can get him in through the back door. After all, those Alabamians and those Republicans who aren't on board with the McConnell Plan don't want to have to accept a Democrat in that Senate seat, right? So they're all just going to have to put together a write-in campaign at the last moment so that Mitch the Pushing Turtle doesn't have to cope with one more challenger to his mindless nonsense and one more vote to replace him as majority leader.

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Apparently, Gloria Allred is representing one of the accusers

Funny how she keeps turning up, isn't it.