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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
The story does not say what he invested. I doubt it was available to the "investing public." That requires a detailed and expensive disclosure of the full details, risks, audited statements, projections of experts so that when it goes bad, nobody will be able to say they were mislead. There are many more small deals available only to "accredited investors" who have larger net worths, and presumably the experience and sophistication to evaluate the risks without the massive disclosures a public offering entails. I imagine that in the course of financing this development, the city in effect "sold" the right to future tax rebates for a cash investment, maybe to fund necessary public improvements traffic aids, street widening, etc. These shopping centers can be a real blessing to a city. I remember that Price Club had its second location in Santee, CA. As it outgrew that location, it started planning to move. The city tried to impose a bunch of extraneous requirements to approve the new location, parks, little league fields. Price Club started looking at locations outside the city, and it was disclosed that sales tax from that Price Club was some huge percentage of the ciry's revenue, like 63% or something. Rather than risk losing that revenue stream, Santee figured out a way to approve the new location without the inerous requirements. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
chellim, I'm growing weary of your attitude towards the man that SAVED YOU!!!!! | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
Unlike Shapiro, I voted for Trump. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
So what?? Are you going to tell me that my eyes have been deceiving me for all these months? | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
I enjoy these conjecturers, these prognosticators, the chicken entrail readers who come along on the heels of every seemingly significant event and offer the analysis, the deeper meanings, the portends of the future. Have any of them ever been accurate? Or is it just so many column inches that must be filled? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
No I am not. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower |
Then don't try to tell me that you not voting for Hillary Clinton can be intrepreted as support for Donald Trump, and I repeat what I said to you: I am growing weary of your attitude towards the man that saved you and this nation. Ted Cruz is not POTUS. Get over it. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Ted Cruz will never be POTUS. I'm over it. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
I've never understood why President Trump supported Strange. Was it a pragmatic calculation? Figuring that Strange would do better against the Democrat candidate? Serious about crackers | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
Interesting stuff. Moore, a MAGA type of candidate, was backed by Steve Bannon. Strange, the establishment candidate, was backed by Trump. The media rails against Strange just because he was associated with Trump, no other reason needed. Moore wins, and the media is delighted, treating Moore's win as Trump's loss. Trump then states that Moore is a fine man and has no problem working with him, that everything is groovy.  Interesting  "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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| wishing we were congress |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...moore-trumps-agenda/ “I would like to congratulate Roy Moore on his victory in Alabama tonight,” McConnell said in a statement. McConnell added that Moore “ran a spirited campaign centered around dissatisfaction with the progress made in Washington” — not acknowledging his own role as senate majority leader or support for Strange. “I share that frustration,” McConnell said, pledging to support Trump’s agenda, noting it was what “the American people voted for last November.” “We look forward to Judge Moore’s help enacting that agenda when he arrives,” McConnell pledged to back Moore in the general election scheduled for December 12 against Democrat Doug Jones and urged those active in the primary election to “redouble” their efforts in the general election. Moore ran on an anti-establishment platform that rebuked McConnell and establishment Republicans in Washington. | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
More denial from McDumbass, its your LACK OF progress we are done with.. Expect more replacements in the house and senate of establishment politicians. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Exactly.... McConnell is trying to deflect... but HE IS what people were voting against. Bannon: McConnell Is 'Corrupt,' 'Incompetent,' 'Permanent Political Class' Listen to Bannon on Hannity: "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Now in Florida |
I am so tired of McConnell. If that fool doesn't recognize that he is a huge part of the problem in Washington, then he is dumber than he appears. I really hope he can get primaried and booted by someone that will fight to win on Trump's agenda. | |||
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| Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
^^^ That's what happened last time. So what did Pushing Turtle do? Why, he cut a deal and had congregants of liberal black churches bussed in to vote in the Republican primary so "that nasty conservative" he was running against wouldn't take "his" seat in the Senate.
It could've been a pragmatic calculation that McConnell might owe him something if Strange collected the nomination. In political terms, Strange would have certainly owed Trump.
Oh, so are we now in enough trouble to be forced to catch a clue? In my world, Pushing Turtle, people tend to come to that conclusion a hair too late to save their asses. May you be a statistic - promptly. | |||
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Member |
Perhaps - however I think most voters recall that- Strange is a former lobbyist/big government guy. Recall he was appointed to his position as interim senator by a governor that was under investigation for corruption which all seemed a little to convenient with the circumstances in our state government. Strange ran a very brutally dishonest campaign in our state. Strange would not face any media members that would challenge him, he was scared and hid. It cost him. You won't find a lot of fans of Moore either, but he was far better candidate vs. Strange. Strange couldn't go fuck himself hard enough imo.... | |||
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| Member |
No matter how the press and the democratic leadership try to finesse the results of this election at the end of it all is this simple fact: It's gonna be another win! MAGA Silent | |||
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Don't Panic |
Long game. This way, he won either way. Strange has voted with his agenda (compared to, say McCain, Collins, Murkowski, ...) and by supporting Strange, he was rewarding loyalty. He was also making buddy-buddy with McConnell, who (while being completely ineffectual) is still an important ally for Trump. To put it another way, McConnell would make a bad enemy for Trump. So he gains for making the effort, and gains even more by having a candidate win that is better aligned with his agenda. Chess vs. checkers.  | |||
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Dances with Wiener Dogs |
That, and Strange' ties to a former disgraced governor are why Moore won. Not because of anything Trump did or didn't do. My guess is that Trump may have gone to AL as a favor to Sessions. Maybe. I'm just guessing there. But had the ObamaCAIR repeal gone through, Strange certainly might have had a better chance. _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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| Member |
I saw a figure-if I remember correctly it was that all the money spent on Strange’s campaign ended up at $167 per vote for him. | |||
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