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Originally posted by vthoky:
Over the past few days, I’ve read a lot about various people getting fired for celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death. The “cancel culture” thing has done a bit of a 180 lately.

It’s easy to read those things and think, “well, that’s a shame,” and go on about my business, in part because of the simple reality that it’s not nice to celebrate a killing like Charlie's.

It hits a little differently when it’s someone you know, though. This afternoon I got word (okay, rumor) that a former coworker is facing termination from her job for the same sort of despicable action.

I’m never quick to want to see someone pushed out of a job. Even terrible workers have mouths to feed and bills to pay. In this case, I know she’s got a toddler at home. I figure the household needs both its incomes.

This person is someone I used to get along with well, despite her harshness and very liberal opinions. After a few years, though, her harshness turned to vileness. At one time, I described her as militant-liberal. She had nothing nice to say for men, particularly white men, nor anyone with conservative values. We had some really ugly interactions, and I finally realized it was best to make conscious effort just to stay away from her. I was not the only one to start avoiding her.

Time has passed, jobs have changed, and bygones are… well… never forgotten.
If the rumor is true, it’ll be impossible to say anything other than “she earned it.” After being so harsh to so many people for so long, the worm has turned.

We’re privileged to be Americans and to enjoy the opportunity to say what comes to mind. I appreciate that every day. With that, however, comes the responsibility to keep personal opinions out of the professional space. This, she’s not good at. And it seems that inability has now turned on her. "Blurt out your opinions all you want to within your own walls, but stow that vile spew when you’re at work!"

(I believe someone here has a signature line mentioning never missing an opportunity to shut the heck up.)

Trying daily to be a better person, I have to recognize that I’ve said and done plenty of stupid things in my past, and to be humble in asking forgiveness for some of those things. With that in mind, I feel it’s not right for me to take joy in this cranky woman’s turn of events.

I can’t deny, however, that there’s a little bit of Nelson (link) banging around in my brain.

“I’m a grown-ass woman, I do what I want!”
Well, chica, it sounds like the next thing you’re going to do is look for a new job….

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Originally posted by 12131:
Furthermore, do you think these vile monsters have any remorse and will ask for forgiveness?

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Originally posted by PPinesRon:
This needs a speedy trial, and an execution (hopefully by firing squad).

That'll keep the Left from trying to make the shooter some kind of martyr, and, hopefully, discourage any wannabes.

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Originally posted by PPinesRon:
This needs a speedy trial, and an execution (hopefully by firing squad).

That'll keep the Left from trying to make the shooter some kind of martyr, and, hopefully, discourage any wannabes.

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I firmly believe he was not a lone wolf

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Originally posted by iron chef:

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Originally posted by Powers77:
That's not what I was saying. To clarify, in the wake of the Trump assassination attempt at Butler how could security at any similar event NOT have rooftops under control during such events.

Is it fair to compare the two?
The POTUS is expected to have the best security detail in the world.

Kirk was not even a politician. He was a political activist & self-made media personality who was perhaps one step removed from social media influencer. His protection detail wasn't paid for by our tax dollars.

The campus has its own police force, but it's not designed to scout rooftops for potential assassins, and it had other things to do as well as manage an on-campus public speaking event.

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Originally posted by Chris17404:
Greg Gutfeld was on FIRE last night on The Five. Literally had fire coming out of his eyes. He said everything we are all thinking and feeling and pulled no punches. It was epic and beautiful.

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Originally posted by Powers77:
I'm sure Kirk had numerous credible threats against his life prior to his assassination and therefore had someone (or a firm) responsible for security. Last year I met a guy who was responsible for security for Microsoft execs as they attended the DNC Convention. So, the hiring of these type of firms is not unusual in for those in the public eye.

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Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday that, "Hate speech that crosses the line into threats of violence is NOT protected by the First Amendment.

“It’s a crime. For far too long, we’ve watched the radical left normalize threats, call for assassinations, and cheer on political violence. That era is over,” she wrote in a post on X.

“Under 18 U.S.C. § 875(c), it is a federal crime to transmit ‘any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another.’ Likewise, 18 U.S.C. § 876 and 18 U.S.C. § 115 make it a felony to threaten public officials, members of Congress, or their families. You cannot call for someone’s murder. You cannot swat a Member of Congress. You cannot dox a conservative family and think it will be brushed off as ‘free speech.’ These acts are punishable crimes, and every single threat will be met with the full force of the law,” Bondi continued.

“Free speech protects ideas, debate, even dissent but it does NOT and will NEVER protect violence. It is clear this violent rhetoric is designed to silence others from voicing conservative ideals,” she added.

Bondi concluded her post by saying: “We will never be silenced. Not for our families, not for our freedoms, and never for Charlie. His legacy will not be erased by fear or intimidation.”

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Originally posted by sooma:
Evil feeds on lies, and grows stronger on them, only truth, and there is only one truth, can effectively counter evil. Everything else is a false sense of passivization.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Personally, I don’t have much sympathy for anyone rejoicing in Charlie’s death and posting that celebration online causing them to lose their jobs. What these cretin and their supporters (or anyone claiming a 1st amendment violation) don’t seem to get is that the businesses they represent have clearly spelled out agreements not to engage in rhetoric that damages the company. They sign paperwork and acknowledge this when they are hired whether they remember doing it or not.

All these fucking whiners pissing and moaning on social media they we “TOOK THEIR JERB!” Did this to themselves with their hate for not only Charlie, but HIS right to free speech on a far more permanent basis. Of course, they are too immature or too dishonest to admit that these firings are between them and their employers, not conservatives. ZERO sympathy. Perhaps learn to code as soon as many Americans were brusquely and insultingly told to do when jobs were destroyed by the left. FUCK THEM. They have successfully removed my interest or concern for their financial woes. This is a war their side started that they not only started but celebrated.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Why does this matter?
Well, it's not just young leftists who are a problem. It's the cognitive dissonance of an entire generation of people who simply don't believe anything. It's nihilism.