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Get Off My Lawn
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The “cancel culture” thing has done a bit of a 180 lately.

I don't characterize it like this, a symmetrical action. The left's cancel culture and companies firing employees in the wake of Kirk's assassination are not in the same ballpark, the same league or the same sport. The left's canceling and violent response has been towards truth and fact; that the Covid vaccine is not a vaccine and that masks were ineffective. That there are only two genders, and men should be banned from women's sports. That Israel has a right to exist and Islamic terrorism must be defeated. That Michael Brown was not killed while on his knees with his hands up, or George Floyd died because of underlying health issues and fentanyl and not a crushed larynx under a racist cop's knee.

Today, people are being fired for supporting/advocating assassinating a U.S. President, a CEO of a large company, and a popular political voice. They support burning down businesses, harming/killing federal officers, etc. Like I stated, not the same thing at all.



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[QUOTE]I firmly believe he was not a lone wolf


I only mentioned that because I believe a speedy trial may not be in everyone's best interest. To go into details would just start a shit show and I'm going to take a pass on that .
 
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Virginia governor says school board member "must resign immediately" for suggesting it was acceptable to murder Charlie Kirk

This is how these loony toons actually think...they think THEY are right here because NAZIS!




My cousin's husband actually posted a video on his FB page of a Charlie Kirk memorial being smashed by a protester and he was SO HAPPY, saying vile things like "Nazis don't get memorials" Red Face

There is no reasoning with people like this, they truly want us all dead because of our views.


 
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And some folks on our side are talking about unity. And, that includes Tulsi Gabbard, our DNI. Roll Eyes


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I firmly believe he was not a lone wolf


What makes you believe that?


Because this. Report: Older Man Initially Arrested After Kirk Shooting Confessed to Distracting Police From Real Shooter


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I firmly believe he was not a lone wolf


What makes you believe that?


Because this. Report: Older Man Initially Arrested After Kirk Shooting Confessed to Distracting Police From Real Shooter
Nah , that's minor stuff .
 
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There is no reasoning with people like this, they truly want us all dead because of our views.



I don't think the why matters, just the what.

If somebody wants you dead, they want you dead. I'd take that threat seriously.


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Posts: 16274 | Location: St. Charles, MO, USA | Registered: September 22, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm sure Kirk had numerous credible threats against his life prior to his assassination and therefore had someone (or a firm) responsible for security. Last year I met a guy who was responsible for security for Microsoft execs as they attended the DNC Convention. So, the hiring of these type of firms is not unusual in for those in the public eye.
Admittedly, I knew very little about Charlie Kirk leading up to his assassination. You're still comparing him to politicians and Microsoft execs.

Just how much do you think Kirk could afford? Looking at his college visit, it didn't appear to be an elaborate nor expensive event. Was Kirk the kind of person where dropping $100K on executive protection for a day would have been no big deal to him? People felt the need to start a GoFundMe for his family, so I'm guessing he probably wasn't a millionaire.

Since you work in risk management, why don't you tell us how much you would budget for adequate security?


Kirk founded Turning Point USA and grew it to a $85 million political organization in 2023. Among other things they provided a lot of support and did a lot of ground work in helping Trump get elected in 2024. I'm sure it's much larger than $85 million now.
So yes, I think it's valid to compare him to a politician or Microsoft exec from a risk exposure standpoint. I believe the reaction here and in the media would support this view.
As far as a "budget" for adequate security, it wouldn't take a lot of money really. A small staff that coordinated with the venues like the Universities would likely be adequate.
It's clear that for what ever reason that had not happened. In fact I see reports that there was also "zero" metal detectors or screening. This makes even less sense to me than the unsecured roof positions.
It's always a challenge to "prove" the value of Risk Management. If you spend money and are successful you don't always see the savings because the loss did not happen.
 
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Employers are not firing people for dancing on Charlie's grave because they agree with us. I'm sure many HR people agree with the leftists. It's all about liability and damage control

They are firing people because conservatives showed unity with Bud Lite and Cracker Barrel and caused loss of business and drops in stock valuation. They know that pissing off half the country is not good for business.

That and potential prosecution or defunding by the Trump administration for hate speech and terroristic threats.
 
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This morning I thoroughly enjoyed burning a casual relationship to the ground, then dynamiting the ashes, before having the Corp of Engineers haul it off the residue to a toxic waste dump.

I thought this woman was merely a left-of-center.

I discovered she supports those who support Mr. Kirk's murder and those who chose to defame him.

I've had enough. No more verbal restraint.

I openly admit I enjoyed doing it and if confronted by a similar situation will do it again with a smile.





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YouTube took down the Charlie Kirk show stream today with the Daily Wire hosts filling in. Here is the stream on Rumble.



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Any idea why? Other than being commie lesbian shitbags, that is.


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Rumble vs Youtube. I joined Mug Club (Stephen Crowder) when he released the tranyfesto. That gives me premium access to Rumble. I like it so much better than Youtube. It hasn't been invaded with bots and AI content. I like Crowder of course, Viva, Russell Brand, and The Mind of Jamal.


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Well, they just announced they're seeking the death penalty, good.


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This morning I thoroughly enjoyed burning a casual relationship to the ground, then dynamiting the ashes, before having the Corp of Engineers haul it off the residue to a toxic waste dump.


Big Grin

A friend's mother used to say, "Bury it. Bury it deep. And then bury the shovel."


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Originally posted by oddball:
Today, people are being fired for supporting/advocating assassinating a U.S. President, a CEO of a large company, and a popular political voice. They support burning down businesses, harming/killing federal officers, etc. Like I stated, not the same thing at all.


True.
And I've just learned that yesterday's rumor has been confirmed.
Frankly, I hope her man gives her the opportunity to not reenter the working world, and she can keep her poisonous self at home. Wink




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YouTube took down the Charlie Kirk show stream today with the Daily Wire hosts filling in. Here is the stream on Rumble.

That was good.

Candace... is angry. She wants the truth (don't we all). But she is angry.

They Are Lying About Charlie Kirk. | Candace Ep 235




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Any idea why? Other than being commie lesbian shitbags, that is.


No official reason I can find. Lot's of people discussing on the livestream of the vigil here YouTube.
 
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well, as the evidence was just laid out with the charges, this guy is F U C Teed - fucted






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Candace... is angry. She wants the truth (don't we all). But she is angry.
FUCK Candace Owens and her insane bullshit. She's on a list of people I no longer listen to anymore at all. If she's touting an international Zionist conspiracy behind this killing, it's just another day in her little world.

There was no conspiracy. Just as with Oswald, while external factors influenced his actions, the shooter hatched his plan alone and received no assistance of any kind from any other person, and that includes his cornholing twink boyfriend.

Listening to the Utah DA just now read the text exchanges between those two pole greasers after the killing, makes this clear.

One man with a rifle can change history. This has been proven true. What's also true is that there is unfortunately always an uninformed and sometimes gullible segment of the population who believe- without fail- that all significant events result from conspiracies. While conspiracies most certainly do exist, this is not one of them.

The shooter hatched his plan in just over a week, from concept to execution, and used his grandfather's rifle to carry it out. He stated this plainly in his text messages.


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But people want drama! They need drama! They want the Soap Opera!
Some people can’t handle a simple 1 + 1 =2, this is black, this is white.

Some people crave that huge grey area and need to swim around in it.

“See, it was the day before 9/11! That means XYZ! So if XYZ, then purple kittens rule the earth!”
The internet definitely does not help! Dive into that Rabbit Hole, and who knows where the conspiracy theories will end!


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