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LBJ and the deep state.
Sixty-one years later and you have no actual proof of this.

No, I don't. Just my gut.

Back and to the left. Back...and to the left. Razz


His head actually moves forward on impact, then muscle contractions and neuropathy causes it to go backwards. There were NO, as in ZERO, entrance wounds on Kennedy’s face or the lateral right side of his head.
All shots were from the rear on a downward angle.
 
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Back and to the left. Back...and to the left. Razz


His head actually moves forward on impact, then muscle contractions and neuropathy causes it to go backwards. There were NO, as in ZERO, entrance wounds on Kennedy’s face or the lateral right side of his head.
All shots were from the rear on a downward angle.


Twas a joke.



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Additionally, fluid dynamics played a part. The human head has a large cavity filled with blood, brain matter and cerebrospinal fluid.

If you've ever shot water-filled jugs with a high-powered rifle, you've seen that, depending upon several variables, the jug is apt to go in any direction.
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Twas a joke.
...said the man touting a deep-state conspiracy.
 
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What did Ruby leave in his car before he walked to the police garage?


A Cannoli?


That's funny. We just re-watched GF1 last night Big Grin

No Cannoli. It was his Weiner dog!

And...despite my CUT, I believe LHO acted alone.



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Yes, his little dog that he loved so much. He knows he's going to see Oswald, he knows he's going to shoot Oswald and be arrested (though he thought he would ultimately be viewed as a hero- just as Oswald thought about his own actions), so he takes his little dog along, to be left in a car for who knows how long.

Ruby acted spontaneously. When he saw Oswald, he was enraged. He routinely carried the Colt Cobra he used to shoot Oswald because as a business owner, he frequently carried cash.

But the thing that nails down that it was a spontaneous act was the timing. Oswald was supposed to have already been gone, and Ruby saunters in a couple of minutes before Oswald actually entered the garage, which was quite some time after Oswald was supposed to enter the garage.

Yeah, some hit man, huh? Gets there late and brings his dog.

The facts kill all the theories.


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I thought the emoji would've made it obvious. Apparently not.


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A recently-discovered phone call recording:

“Hey, Ruby, this is Joe.”

“Hi, Joe. What’s up?”

“They’re going to be transporting that Oswald guy in a few minutes. I want you to run over there and kill him. You’ve still got that snub-nose loaded with .38 round nose bullets—right?”

“Sure do. I’ll be happy to commit a murder on live TV while surrounded by cops and either go to the electric chair or spend the rest of my life in prison for you, Joe. Will you look after my hookers when I’m gone?”

“Of course, Jack. Don’t miss, now.”

“I’ll do my best. I haven’t ever shot anyone before, though, and I don’t know much about anatomy. One shot to the chest should do it, right: I don’t have to shoot more than once?”

“That’ll do it, Jack. One body shot with a low-powered revolver will kill them every time. Trust me; I’m a trained, experienced assassin myself and I know about such things.”

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It has already been noted that Vince Bugliosi wrote the “ultimate” book on the assassination. Those that find 1800 pages too daunting, just read the “Four Days in November” section, which used to be available in book form as a stand alone. Mr Bugliosi spent over 20 years researching and writing this epic. He was writing other books and still doing defense attorney work during that time, not purely focused on Reclaiming History. The book’s release was delayed and rescheduled numerous times due to his diverse, and exhausting , work schedule.
Para, Vince would be proud of your total, and astonishingly quick, recall of the salient points.
 
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A man by the name of Lee Harvey Oswald, a perpetual malcontent, did it. He used a surplus Carcano rifle with a cheap scope.

His first shot missed his target so badly, it hit a curb. Spalling from the shot hit a man standing nearby and cut his cheek.

The second shot hit Kennedy in his upper back, passed out through his throat, passed through the jump seat Texas Governor Connally was sitting in, passed through Connally's torso, breaking a rib, fractured his wrist and embedded itself in his leg.

The third and final shot struck Kennedy in the back of the head.

In March, 1963, Oswald used the same rifle to attempt to kill General Edwin Walker, with testimony from Oswald's wife Marina supporting the evidence.

After the assassination, Oswald also murdered Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit with a war surplus S&W revolver, which had been converted from .38/200 to .38 Special, before being captured by authorities in a Dallas movie theater.

Two days later, Oswald was murdered by Dallas night club owner Jack Ruby.

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You seriously believe this? One bullet (second shot) did all that and came through looking pristine?

CIA killed him. JFK had it out for the intelligence community after Bay of Pigs, booted Dulles who magically heads the commission to investigate his killing? Please.
 
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Don't embarrass yourself
 
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Don't embarrass yourself


Believing what the govt claims happened that day is the only embarrassing thing here.
 
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You don't know what you're talking about. The bullet is not "pristine". You're just repeating the usual bullshit. The fact that you used the term "pristine" makes you merely a parrot, squawking away.
 
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The bullet was very slightly deformed, and was missing three or four grains of its metal content, which I believe were tied to minute fragments in Connolly‘s wrist.
 
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You don't know what you're talking about. The bullet is not "pristine". You're just repeating the usual bullshit. The fact that you used the term "pristine" makes you merely a parrot, squawking away.


Zero chance the bullet passes through the door of a car from that era in the condition it's in. Agent from the detail who passed recently even claimed the round came from the trunk area which sinks the official story.
 
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Yes, bent slightly, flattened at the base, and missing a bit of its lead core.

The bullet, not traveling fast in comparison to today's battle rifles, slowed substantially as it passed through Kennedy's upper back, the jump seat, Connally's torso, deflected off Connally's wrist and finally embedded itself shallowly in Connally's thigh.

The bullet- 220 grains IIRC- has a very thick jacket.
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Zero chance the bullet passes through the door of a car from that era in the condition it's in.
It didn't pass through a door. Sorry, but the more you talk, the more you demonstrate how little you actually know about all of this.
 
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You don't know what you're talking about. The bullet is not "pristine". You're just repeating the usual bullshit. The fact that you used the term "pristine" makes you merely a parrot, squawking away.


Zero chance the bullet passes through the door of a car from that era in the condition it's in. Agent from the detail who passed recently even claimed the round came from the trunk area which sinks the official story.


The “trunk area”? What the fuck are you talking about? I’ve read thousands, even millions of words on this topic and this is the first time I’ve heard that bullshit ever floated out there.
 
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Most of the published photos of the projectile that was recovered from a stretcher don’t show the base that was clearly deformed. Showing the base would demonstrate how ridiculous the “pristine” claim is—not to mention how dishonest the people who make it are.

And as something else experienced shooters who have enough curiosity to pay attention at shooting ranges or dig into a berm occasionally know, actual “pristine” bullets are not hard to find. I have picked up many examples myself that were deformed less than the one that gets pictured all the time.

This site has a brief video that shows the deformed base.

https://www.nist.gov/news-even...eserved-digital-form




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Ooh, here we go again. I saw Big Foot in my backyard the other night.


So... Bigfoot is the murderer?




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160 grains, Para. And one of the highest sectional densities of any projectile.
 
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Most of the published photos of the projectile that was recovered from a stretcher don’t show the base that was clearly deformed because that would make the “pristine” claim to be as clearly ridiculous as it is.


So much for a "pristine bullet", which has been one of the low-information conspiracy theorists favorite phrases for decades.

Note the dent in the nose as well. Note the very thick jacket. This projectile was built hell for stout.
 
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