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Shadorian, or Thadorian, or Tadorian | |||
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Helicopter video of damage to Bahamas. Looks just like Katrina on the Gulf Coast with more wind damage than Katrina away from the beach. Strewn boxcars and cargo freight. Severe water and wind damage. Here is the link. Note there is no commentary on the video. https://www.foxnews.com/world/...destruction-revealed It is the video down on the page BrandonClement/LSM | |||
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Wow. That is brutal. | |||
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Watching FOX tonight its really sickening how they're still trying to milk the storm here in Florida. So far we've gotten less rain than we'd get during a regular summer rain front. And storm surge? Sweetie, its called...high tide. It happens every day.  ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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| I Am The Walrus |
So glad I cut the cord years ago. If I hadn't paid so much money for them, I would be tempted to just throw the damn TVs out on to the curb. I hate the TV, it's a brain control machine. Ours is only turned on when my mother in law comes to town, we have Amazon Prime so she will watch shows or movies. No news in this house, I don't need someone telling me what to think. _____________ | |||
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| The success of a solution usually depends upon your point of view |
Our local Fox news affiliate is doing a pretty good job today of reporting on Dorian without over hyping it. The head chief meteorologist just referred to it as a "non-event". There was one reporter all decked out in foul weather gear and googles but the other reporters have been dressed more casually. “We truly live in a wondrous age of stupid.” - 83v45magna "I think it's important that people understand free speech doesn't mean free from consequences societally or politically or culturally." -Pranjit Kalita, founder and CIO of Birkoa Capital Management | |||
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The Bahamas got wrecked, but it was a non-event here, notwithstanding the news and local government hype. I suppose the local gov's don't have much choice. If they don't hype it, and one person gets hurt, or power goes out for 15 minutes, they get criticized, if they do hype it and it doesn't happen, they look like over-reacting fools and people ignore the next one. What a shit show. I really feel for the Bahamians. That's just horrible. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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I don't think it is over-hyping to plan for an event that could have easily been catastrophic for Florida. With a little shift in the wind patterns, Dorian could have slammed into Florida as a class 3, or higher, hurricane. It could have had quite the buzz saw effect with the eye wall running along the coastline. Thankfully, Florida has dodged this bullet. I feel for the people of the Bahamas. It looks like total devastation in the northern areas. . . | |||
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I completely agree. It's not hype to prepare. But it is hype to have breathless reporting from the beaches while the thing is moving north 80 miles off shore, and to have government officials continuing the grave "official statements" when it's past clear that the thing isn't coming. Both situations detract from the credibility of the organizations that need to carefully consider evacuations, curfews, warnings and reporting to keep people safe when the threats are real and ongoing. I fear that events like this will make people less sensitive to preparation and evacuation when real danger is immanent. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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I agree, Artie. That hype is ridiculous. The MSM has been busted so many times on this now, I can't believe they still do it. It's like a really bad production of "reality" tv. . | |||
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To put it in perspective. The only difference between what happened in the Bahamas and Florida with this storm was 80-100 miles. Nobody can predict where a hurricane is going to go. The Abacos got absolutely demolished and a lot of yachters here are organizing floatilla's of yachts to bring supplies to them. I got a call today to help out and waiting on the details of when. A lot of yacht owners are donating their yachts to use for the relief as well as stocking them with supplies. Problem is, it's 400+ Nautical Miles round trip by sea and no fuel over there to refuel to come back. So it creates additional issues. Most yachts could run there in 8 hours +/-, if they could fuel to run back, but instead will have to do 8 knots +/- instead of 20-30 knots, and a 24 hour trip underway to get there, and 24 hours to get back, to conserve fuel. So additional time, and additional crew to stand overnight watches. The Bahamas government wants all supplies to go to Nassau first, delaying supplies getting to the people that need them. Freeport was the second largest city/island/population (next to Nassau) so many are afraid that the Abacos (a group of a few dozen small islands) that got hit the hardest, will be somewhat forgotten about. As of right now all airports over there are unusable. There are also no marina's for yachts to tie up in to unload supplies, so it's very complicated. I feel very sorry for the people in the Abacos as there are a lot of really good people over there, I know many people there but haven't heard from any of them. | |||
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Are you telling me that there is no discernible difference between Florida and the Bahamas in the areas of building code/construction standards, infrastructure, and elevation? I wouldn’t think those things are even remotely equal between mainland US and what some consider a third world country (arguable, I’m sure). I’m no expert in any of the mentioned “areas” (construction, geography, or infrastructure) but it does seem a little doubtful. | |||
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^^^This x1,000. These media morons and political whores who've stood continuously in front of a camera for over a week, long before they had any clue where the storm might go, have set the table for people to blow off preparations the next time a storm is projected. There simply is no common sense left when it comes to reporting on these storms. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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I went with a church group to Puerto Rico a couple years ago. We spent our time there repairing and rebuilding storm damage left unrepaired to many of the homes. I felt our efforts were ultimately wasted as any amount of wind or storm would undo everything we did (plus some) given the basic construction of the homes there. Simple example of the systems you're dealing with there, where we stayed, you couldn't flush toilet paper because the sewage system couldn't handle it. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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When you are talking 180 mph winds and a 23 foot storm surge in some areas it is frankly irrelevant. Take some time to look at the damage caused by a 28 foot storm surge to a structure. FEMA has those statistics. Speaking of California, how many homes can withstand earthquakes and fires?? State farm has those statistics on storm surge. FEMA has published a good bit on the issue. Read up a little. | |||
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THIS. We in Florida dodged a HUGE bullet by 80 miles and were spared because of the Bahamas and situation. Elevation is basically the same along FL and the Bahamas.180 MPH winds for 24 hours and 23' storm surge and there would be widespread devastation here in Florida as well. There are some developments in the Bahamas (Baker's Bay in Guana Cay, Abacos) is one of them, built to the very latest hurricane codes and with no expense spared in the build and it's leveled from what I hear. One of the video's I have, the home was built to the latest hurricane standards in Freeport, and the guy is standing in 2' of salt water on the second floor of his home. All electrical, plumbing, interior walls, etc. ruined from the saltwater, and what that doesn't do, the mold will destroy the rest. | |||
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Gee. If only the Bahamas had had more condos this might not have happened huh jimmy? Icarus flew too close to the sun, but at least he flew. | |||
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Would've pushed all that bad weather around the island like the space/time warp drive Dr Zeferan Cochran will develop, so I've heard.... Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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