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Seeker of Clarity |
Oh man. MD-11 is a name I haven't heard in a long while. | |||
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A Grateful American |
#1 engine massive fire on takeoff. Never got more than about 100ft above ground. MD-11F Approx 280,000 lbs of fuel to fly non-stop to Hawaii. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד | |||
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Nose up, big fire, probably way past too late to abort.  The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
Damn. From a twitter video I saw, the fire was obvious before nose up. Would/could they not know that? ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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What's the procedure to abort when you're already too fast to stop before overrunning the runway? The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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is that 1/4 mile of fire? wow, i hope people weren't in that path. how terrible. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
I don't have a clue. I'm not an airline pilot. That's why I posed the question. ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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| Purveyor of Death and Destruction |
Image of what appears to be part of the engine cowling at the end of the runway  | |||
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| Purveyor of Death and Destruction |
Sorry for the big pictures. I don't know why it keeps doing that. | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
That area is pretty populated. ________________ People hate you. Train like it. | |||
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| A Grateful American |
Too fast, above V1 and obstacles, you commit to fly. Sometimes, you are in a place where there is no good option, only the best. At that point I believe, they did try to fly, (and hoping) to be able to pick a place to put it down, if they could not make a return. But that thing was way heavy, and above gross landing weight by 200,000 lbs, it could land, but stopping with only brakes would have been very tough with 12,000 feet and nearly 170 kts on the wheels at touchdown. (WAG) "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד | |||
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Altitude Minimum |
Terrible! | |||
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| Purveyor of Death and Destruction |
This was on Reddit. Claims to be on the runway.  | |||
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Pretty much my thought as well. Sad to see, for sure. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss |
Thanks for that.
Agreed. As someone who wore a flight suit for 15 years, every time these things happen my heart breaks. When you go to work every day you never think it'll happen to you. Until it does. Mechanical things break. Whether it's due to negligence or just sheer chance, it doesn't matter. Lives were lost, and that is tragic. ________________________________________________________ It is long past time for a Convention of States. The Founding Fathers gave us this tool to fix an out of control government and we need to use it. | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
The image of the engine, AI or not, does appear to be a GE CF6, which be correct for the aircraft. Still, you'd think if newscopter captured the cowling, they also would have seen the engine too. | |||
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Certified Plane Pusher |
Damn, what a tragic loss. Situation awareness is defined as a continuous extraction of environmental information, integration of this information with previous knowledge to form a coherent mental picture in directing further perception and anticipating future events. Simply put, situational awareness mean knowing what is going on around you. | |||
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I'm no pilot, but I would much rather take my chanes over running the runway while still on the ground than lose an engine on take off. | |||
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| Knows too little about too much  |
Terrible! Three guys knew they were going to die and still did their best. RMD TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…” Remember: After the first one, the rest are free. | |||
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