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UPS MD-11 crash on takeoff
November 04, 2025, 05:13 PM
walker77UPS MD-11 crash on takeoff
https://x.com/UofLSheriff50/st.../1985842659710419002 
November 04, 2025, 05:23 PM
r0gueOh man. MD-11 is a name I haven't heard in a long while.
November 04, 2025, 05:49 PM
sigmonkey#1 engine massive fire on takeoff. Never got more than about 100ft above ground.
MD-11F
Approx 280,000 lbs of fuel to fly non-stop to Hawaii.
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P250UA5Nose up, big fire, probably way past too late to abort.
The Enemy's gate is down. November 04, 2025, 06:14 PM
GustoferDamn.
From a twitter video I saw, the fire was obvious before nose up. Would/could they not know that?
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November 04, 2025, 06:21 PM
P250UA5quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
Damn.
From a twitter video I saw, the fire was obvious before nose up. Would/could they not know that?
What's the procedure to abort when you're already too fast to stop before overrunning the runway?
The Enemy's gate is down. November 04, 2025, 06:23 PM
konata88is that 1/4 mile of fire? wow, i hope people weren't in that path. how terrible.
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Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
What's the procedure to abort when you're already too fast to stop before overrunning the runway?
I don't have a clue. I'm not an airline pilot. That's why I posed the question.
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November 04, 2025, 06:32 PM
walker77Image of what appears to be part of the engine cowling at the end of the runway
November 04, 2025, 06:38 PM
walker77Sorry for the big pictures. I don't know why it keeps doing that.
November 04, 2025, 06:42 PM
jljonesThat area is pretty populated.
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November 04, 2025, 06:43 PM
sigmonkeyquote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
Damn.
From a twitter video I saw, the fire was obvious before nose up. Would/could they not know that?
What's the procedure to abort when you're already too fast to stop before overrunning the runway?
Too fast, above V1 and obstacles, you commit to fly.
Sometimes, you are in a place where there is no good option, only the best.
At that point I believe, they did try to fly, (and hoping) to be able to pick a place to put it down, if they could not make a return.
But that thing was way heavy, and above gross landing weight by 200,000 lbs, it could land, but stopping with only brakes would have been very tough with 12,000 feet and nearly 170 kts on the wheels at touchdown.
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BOATTRASH1Terrible!
November 04, 2025, 07:02 PM
walker77This was on Reddit. Claims to be on the runway.
November 04, 2025, 07:04 PM
P250UA5quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
quote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
Damn.
From a twitter video I saw, the fire was obvious before nose up. Would/could they not know that?
What's the procedure to abort when you're already too fast to stop before overrunning the runway?
Too fast, above V1 and obstacles, you commit to fly.
Sometimes, you are in a place where there is no good option, only the best.
At that point I believe, they did try to fly, (and hoping) to be able to pick a place to put it down, if they could not make a return.
But that thing was way heavy, and above gross landing weight by 200,000 lbs, it could land, but stopping with only brakes would have been very tough with 12,000 feet and nearly 170 kts on the wheels at touchdown.
(WAG)
Pretty much my thought as well. Sad to see, for sure.
The Enemy's gate is down. November 04, 2025, 07:21 PM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
(WAG)
Thanks for that.
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originally posted ny P250UAS:
Sad to see, for sure.
Agreed. As someone who wore a flight suit for 15 years, every time these things happen my heart breaks. When you go to work every day you never think it'll happen to you. Until it does.
Mechanical things break. Whether it's due to negligence or just sheer chance, it doesn't matter. Lives were lost, and that is tragic.
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November 04, 2025, 07:38 PM
FlashlightboyThe image of the engine, AI or not, does appear to be a GE CF6, which be correct for the aircraft. Still, you'd think if newscopter captured the cowling, they also would have seen the engine too.
November 04, 2025, 07:40 PM
Phantom229Damn, what a tragic loss.
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jimmy123xquote:
Originally posted by P250UA5:
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:
Damn.
From a twitter video I saw, the fire was obvious before nose up. Would/could they not know that?
What's the procedure to abort when you're already too fast to stop before overrunning the runway?
I'm no pilot, but I would much rather take my chanes over running the runway while still on the ground than lose an engine on take off.
November 04, 2025, 08:10 PM
rduckworTerrible! Three guys knew they were going to die and still did their best.
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