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Lawyers, Guns
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Someone is telling the 49ers to make this an issue. Fuck'em all!

How does this have anything to do with what the players are supposedly protesting about?

The NFL players have been manipulated by several leftist causes starting with BLM, but now including the gun control folks. The NFL, through just a handful of the players, has become a "social justice" pushing political organization. Many fans, including those here on SF want nothing to do with it as it becomes emblematic of the Trump hating, anti-America leftists.

Bob McNair was exactly right:
“We can’t have the inmates running the prison.”
But.... he and the rest of the owners have repeatedly backed down. The inmates ARE now running the prison.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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No, now you're just letting them play their game. They protested "police brutality" against Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. Only they couldn't defend those two would-be thugs, so it became generically about police brutality. So now that the more vague expression of what they're protesting about hasn't made them any more popular, they want to turn it into a protest about all the SJW causes under the sun? Bullshit.

This has nothing to do with what they were protesting about - it's yet another tier of distraction to get people to ignore where this all started and what it's all about.
 
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Originally posted by chellim1:
“We can’t have the inmates running the prison.”
-- Bob McNair, the Texans’ owner
Big Grin


The sad part is he felt compelled (pressured) to apologize. When the F*ck will someone stand up and say, if you do not like it, get the F out?

Yeah, I suspect it is financially motivated.

Oh well, another week w/o NFL and I am good to go.


Bob was right the first time.
 
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A sports reporter recently left his comfortable liberal bubble in New York City, traveled to the interior of the country, and was shocked when he discovered that NFL fans in fly over country really do hate the NFL’s constant anti-American national anthem protests.

Fox NFL writer Peter Schrager found out first hand that real Americans are pretty steamed about the anti-American NFL protests going on across the country. Schrager told his tale on WFAN’s Mike Francesca Show on Friday, Awful Announcing reported.

The New York-based reporter left the Big Apple for an assignment in Indianapolis, Indiana, and when he got into a cab, the driver asked him why he was in town.

Schrager proudly spoke up and perhaps fatally over simplified his job, by saying that he worked in the NFL. But that was a major mistake because upon hearing that, the driver pulled over and told Schrager to get out of his cab.

The driver proceeded to tell the reporter that he did not appreciate the anti-American protests going on each week during the playing of the national anthem, and he didn’t feel the need to do business with anyone representing pro football.

“You can get out of the car,” Schrager said the driver told him. “The NFL is dead to me. The NFL, the fact that these guys take knees, I will never watch the NFL again,” the cabbie added according to the Fox reporter.


Schrager went on to note that this was the first time he ever met anyone so mad at the NFL over the anthem protests. He said it was because he never meets anyone in New York that has an opinion contrary to the liberal agenda.

“It was the first time I had a real-life experience face-to-face with somebody who was that charged up about this issue,” Schager said. “And I said ‘Wow, that’s crazy.’ And the more you talk to fans who aren’t on the two coasts, the more you aren’t in blue-state territory, this is a real deal, and it is affecting the bottom line. And the owners are seeing this.”

Schrager’s experience and reaction is a clue as to why sports reporters are nearly universally liberal. They live only in left-wing enclaves on the coasts and don’t often venture out into fly over country.


http://www.breitbart.com/sport...%28Breitbart+News%29




...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV

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Schrager’s experience and reaction is a clue as to why sports reporters are nearly universally liberal. They live only in left-wing enclaves on the coasts and don’t often venture out into fly over country.

Roll Eyes
I DO venture out into left-wing enclaves on the coasts... but I live in fly over country. Some of these people live in a bubble and have no clue...



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Who takes a cab anymore?
 
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The inmates have run this country for at least the last 8 years. Their perp in chief, is probably behind this stuff. Of course I can't prove the later. But it has his touch.

Once the advertisers see the viewing numbers drop and drop, they'll want money back. Then there is the merchandise side of the NFL. Wonder how those numbers will look post-holiday season.

People are tired of these political stunts. Sports are a temporary refuge from this shit.

People will find new temporary escapes - like spending time with the family - kids. Do what they did before all this sports stuff.

Goodell's contract extension also seems no longer a certainty.

For me it's ham radio contest season. Fuck the NFL and their bullshit.


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"He gains votes ever and anew by taking money from everybody and giving it to a few, while explaining that every penny was extracted from the few to be giving to the many."

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I was sitting at the bar today in Gordon Biersch VA location when a guy sat down near me. We got to talking and he’s retired Navy. There was a tv in front of us with NFL recaps playing. He asked if I watched or had a team. I said I was done with the NFL because I’m tired of spoiled criminal millionaires using the anthem to piss and moan about a non issue. He shook my hand and said, “Glad to hear it sir.” Best part of that subject: He’s black. We talked for a couple hours over burgers and a few beers. I thanked him for his service and paid for one of his beers and the look of appreciation I got was quite moving.

There are more of us than there are of the thugs. Piss on them and their media enablers.
 
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Who takes a cab anymore?
I wouldn't hire Uber even if you held me at gunpoint
 
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Last week I was readying a house for sale in Fort Worth, and noticed an open house in the next block. I went over to have a look, mainly to see what the asking price was. The realtor showed me around, and then he asked me if I was going to watch the Cowboys later in the afternoon. I told him I would not, as I had work to do and no time or desire to watch pro football. He replied that he was done with the NFL, as he found the political protests of the players to be very offensive.
 
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If the NFL thinks this will help, I believe they're going to be in for a shock. Big Grin


Colin Kaepernick’s lawyer Mark Geragos claimed Tuesday that his client will be on an NFL roster within the next 10 days.

“I think within the next 10 days somebody will sign him. I think somebody’s gonna sign him. I think the NFL has to come to their senses, and realize every day that goes by just proves the collusion case even more,” Geragos said during an appearance on The Adam Carolla Show.


We’ll have to wait to find out if Geragos knows something the rest of us don’t, but it’ll be the biggest news of the NFL season if a team makes the decision to sign the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback.


http://smokeroom.com/2017/10/3...ster-within-10-days/
 
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If the NFL thinks this will help, I believe they're going to be in for a shock. Big Grin


Colin Kaepernick’s lawyer Mark Geragos claimed Tuesday that his client will be on an NFL roster within the next 10 days.

“I think within the next 10 days somebody will sign him. I think somebody’s gonna sign him. I think the NFL has to come to their senses, and realize every day that goes by just proves the collusion case even more,” Geragos said during an appearance on The Adam Carolla Show.


We’ll have to wait to find out if Geragos knows something the rest of us don’t, but it’ll be the biggest news of the NFL season if a team makes the decision to sign the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback.


http://smokeroom.com/2017/10/3...ster-within-10-days/


Think you are right Olfuzzy.

Presuming that the NFL thinks this would be a positive, I'd be willing to bet that precisely the opposite would be the effect of putting that clown on a roster. More will run away!




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Originally posted by gw3971:
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Originally posted by P-220:
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Originally posted by chellim1:
“We can’t have the inmates running the prison.”
-- Bob McNair, the Texans’ owner
Big Grin


The sad part is he felt compelled (pressured) to apologize. When the F*ck will someone stand up and say, if you do not like it, get the F out?

Yeah, I suspect it is financially motivated.

Oh well, another week w/o NFL and I am good to go.


Bob was right the first time.


The fact that he apologized simply proves his initial point.


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“I think within the next 10 days somebody will sign him. I think somebody’s gonna sign him. I think the NFL has to come to their senses, and realize every day that goes by just proves the collusion case even more,” Geragos said during an appearance on The Adam Carolla Show.

I think Geragos is delusional. I think there's too damn' much money in pro football for any team (or the league) to let itself be sued into hiring anyone to play. After all, how many almost-wases and never-weres would be willing to sue over not getting or keeping a place on a roster? And how many lawyers are willing to bet that threatening lawsuits will let them rake in settlements in the hundreds of thousands of dollars? Uh-uh. The owners know better than to chum the sharks when they aren't shark fishing.
 
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/...ers-coalition-monday

A proposed second meeting between NFL owners and the Players Coalition, tentatively scheduled for Monday, has been tabled.

The sides couldn't work out the details and are discussing trying again next week

The meeting had tentatively been scheduled to take place Monday in Washington, D.C. But Saturday, on the heels of Houston Texans owner Bob McNair's controversial "inmates running the prison" comment, a coalition of NFL players invited McNair, commissioner Roger Goodell and quarterback Colin Kaepernick to a meeting Monday in Philadelphia. They said they hoped to address players' "immediate concerns before additional progress can be made."

49ers safety Eric Reid offered some insight on Kaepernick's attending the second meeting.

"I talked to him [Kaepernick]. I think if they could make it a legitimate meeting, then he'll go. But right now, we don't know if anybody is going," he said Sunday.

Reid went on to say that Kaepernick has struggled to get on the same page as the NFL.

"I think, to keep it frank, the NFL wants the protests to end. It's bad for their business, but I think it's ridiculous that they don't want Colin to be there, being as he is the first one to start protesting

the NFL dilemma. a bit like "don't feed the bears"
 
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Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless.
 
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Would'nt ya know - it takes pizza to bring this thing to a head!

Papa John's slams NFL leadership for lackluster pizza sales as shares sink more than 10% CNBC

"Papa John himself slammed NFL leadership on Wednesday, blaming the organization for lackluster sales at his pizza restaurants in the third quarter.

John Schnatter, the founder and CEO of Papa John's, said the league and its leadership "hurt" the company by not resolving the player protests that have been taking place during the National Anthem.

"The NFL has been a long and valued partner over the years but we are certainly disappointed that NFL and its leadership did not resolve the ongoing situation to the satisfaction of all parties," Schnatter said during an earnings call Wednesday. "This should have been nipped in the bud a year and a half ago."

Papa John's, which has been the official pizza of the NFL since 2010, said that the combination of declining NFL viewership and negative consumer sentiment associated with the league caused sales in the third quarter to slump.

Shares of the pizza chain fell nearly 10 percent on Wednesday.

"The NFL has hurt us and, more importantly, by not resolving the current debacle to the player and owner's satisfaction, NFL leadership has hurt's Papa John's," Schnatter said.

"Leadership starts at the top, and this is an example of poor leadership," he said.

In North America, same-store sales grew 1 percent, falling short of analyst expectations of a 1.4 percent rise, according to Street Account. And the company expects this trend to continue into the next quarter.

"The NFL situation has persisted in the pressure that it's applying to our sales that has bled into the start of the fourth quarter," Steve Ritchie, chief operating officer, said during the conference call.

Ritchie also blamed the competitive restaurant environment and temporary store closures caused by hurricanes for weak sales.

"Like Subway in recent years, Papa John's has invested in athletes to market their products," Darren Tristano, a foodservice trend expert, told CNBC via email. "When athletes are at the top of their game, these investments can pay off with sales growth but when you invest in retiring players like Peyton Manning and injured players like J.J. Watt to endorse your brand, the impact can be lessened. With team parity in the NFL, ratings have fallen and marketing has become less effective for brands associating with the league."

However, "The results wouldn't suggest cutting ties with the NFL," Tristano said."
 
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^^^ Well, when you dance with the devil...


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Should Papa John’s anticipated years ago that something like this would happen and never done business with the NFL? Confused

I will give the company credit for its forthright identification of the problem and its call for a resolution. It seems that most advertisers are just adopting a head-in-the-sand approach and hoping it will all blow over rather than saying, “Fix it!” If enough other advertisers and fans say that, it will be done, but evidently not before.




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I respect Papa Johns for their reaction. 2 yrs ago, the nfl was very popular with most of us here (or at least neutral). Now, at least PJ's is trying to get the nfl to pull their heads out of their butts.

I don't fault them for closely allying themselves with the nfl back then - it's not PJ's fault the nfl went Full Retard. . .

At least, now, PJ should save a ton of money in advertising costs since the ratings have tanked.



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