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Originally posted by sdy:
let's ask the NFL if all of this is their position, since they support the kneelers

Absolutely. Stuff a camera and microphone in the owner's faces, as well as Goodell, and make them answer the question. Let's get it on the record for everyone to know and evaluate for themselves.

Ha! Yeah, you think I'm coming back? Not a chance. This season is over for me, just like last year's was before it even started.

As long as even one single player is allowed to turn his back on the fallen brave of this country using the platform of the NFL--as long as that is tolerated for even a second--I will continue to turn my back on anything that has to do with that organization.

Read that some asshole catcher from the Oakland A's has been pulling that knee BS. They're playing in TX now, so I hope Texans let that idiot have it. We don't need this level of stupid in baseball.

And I hope people see just how the Golden State Warriors are nothing but a bunch of pathetic assholes. They're too good to visit the bad man in the White House.

Not really wanting to wade into this as a libertarian and all....


but...

The Lingerie Football league (women's football, where they were helmets, pads and basically the same outfit as beach volleyball players...)

http://freebeacon.com/culture/...nds-to-nfl-we-stand/

Since they now have a strong political voice I think we really ought to revisit the antitrust broadcast decision of the past.

So do the kneeler supporters now boycott because the players abandoned them to save their bullshit careers?

That's actually a pretty good idea redstone. I support any and all attempts to destroy the worthless liberal media's monolpoly.

good summary at this NYT article

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...fl-trump-anthem.html

Faced with the prospect of another wave of sideline demonstrations at N.F.L. games this weekend, the league’s owners and players are wrestling with how to plot a path forward from one of the most divisive weekends it has seen.

As they do so, they are weighing the players’ desire to rebuff criticism from President Trump and to kneel or lock arms during the national anthem to raise awareness of social injustice, while accommodating fans who would prefer football to just be about football.

The meeting this week at league headquarters included Commissioner Roger Goodell, several prominent owners and about a half-dozen players. ... one player who attended said he felt it was the owners’ desire that all players stand for the anthem.

It is clear from interviews with N.F.L. officials and more than a dozen teams that owners and team executives would prefer that the protests end, both for personal reasons and because it risks inflaming the president, who has been a friend and ally of many of the owners, and alienating fans and sponsors. But they are also wary of appearing heavy handed and upsetting the image of unity that the league sought to project last weekend.

What has emerged in meetings across the league this week — from locker rooms to N.F.L. headquarters — is a strategy of not pushing back at an unpredictable president. Instead, the players, with input from team officials, are seeking to shape a message that shows their desire to stand together while still addressing the original intent of the protests: raising awareness of police brutality against African Americans and racism in general .

this will destroy the league. Play football. We don't need lectures from 20 somethings making millions of $ who protest about being oppressed

“The players have a right to speak their minds, but on the other hand, it can make it difficult because there isn’t anyone in America who doesn’t want to honor America,” Arthur Blank, the owner of the Atlanta Falcons, said in an interview. “You talk to other owners and the commissioner, they feel the same way, they support the players.”

In Charlotte, several players visited the house of Jerry Richardson, the team owner, to express their frustration with what they perceived to be restrictions on their ability to speak on social issues. In Kansas City, Chiefs wide receiver Chris Conley said that teammates respectfully told him they disagreed with his decision to kneel during the anthem last Sunday. The Steelers are still dealing with the fallout from their decision to stay indoors when the anthem was played last weekend; the starting quarterback, Ben Roethlisberger, later said he regretted not appearing on the sideline for the anthem.

And on a personal level, Delanie Walker, a tight end for the Tennesee Titans, wrote in a post on Instagram that he and his family had received death threats since he spoke in support of the anthem protests. “The racist and violent words directed at me and my son only serve as another reminder that our country remains divided and full of hateful rhetoric,” he wrote.

Goodell and his advisers have looked to soothe sponsors’ concerns, speaking to them from league headquarters in Manhattan.

The league is also monitoring fan reaction, especially on social media, where videos have surfaced showing people burning N.F.L. jerseys. Nearly every team has been fielding hundreds, and sometimes thousands, of calls from fans, most of them opposed to the protests. Some have even turned in their season tickets.

hope they monitor SIGforum

“We understand there is anger out there,” Joe Lockhart, a league spokesman, said. “We understand some of it is based on political agendas , but some of our fans’ anger is based on their own principles. We get that and we understand that.”

says Joe Lockhart. hardcore DEM tied to Clintons, Kerry, and obama

about 70 percent of a team’s revenue comes from these television and sponsorship deals, which ensures that every team turns a profit.

Many players who knelt last weekend say they have made their point and are ready to resume standing for the anthem. Those who were previously vocal about social activism are unlikely to stop, because they do not want President Trump to claim victory.

so it is the players who have a political agenda

Then there are the Seattle Seahawks, in their own category. More than any other team, they have been at the vanguard of social activism, with three of their best players — Doug Baldwin, Michael Bennett and Richard Sherman — using their platforms to condemn racial injustice and police brutality.

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Originally posted by Leemur:
So do the kneeler supporters now boycott because the players abandoned them to save their bullshit careers?

Lets be honest, 85% of the players either (1) had no idea what is was all about or (2) just went along with it in hopes of 'getting it over'.

Not that it matters to me, NFL is dead.

Am I ever going to watch the Nutty Fucking Liberals, No Fucking Luck, have a Nice Fucking Life - with out our money.

You are not more important than our country. We found out where you stand (or in this case kneel). We saw your disrespect for us, our country and its flag. We showed you where we stand in love of our country and our veterans.

Take your hate for America and go the fuck away.

EVERY player, coach, owner, and no-nuts Goodell needs to sit down and REALLY listen to this...

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Originally posted by sdy:
good summary at this NYT article

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/0...fl-trump-anthem.html

In Charlotte, several players visited the house of Jerry Richardson, the team owner, to express their frustration with what they perceived to be restrictions on their ability to speak on social issues.

I have no problem whatsoever with your ability to speak on social issues. Just do it OFF THE PHUKKING FOOTBALL FIELD and on YOUR OWN TIME!!!

As I've stated repeatedly, I don't give a popcorn fart about football or the useless NFL, but don't carry this political bullshit into your work place. I'd be fired in a Houston, Texas minute if I started making political PA's on my aircraft.

Linking arms? Pfffffffft...just more Lib-tard, feel-good "look at me and how important I THINK I am" bullshit.

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Originally posted by oddball:
In case you come across some idiot who thinks the NFL's stance on "police brutality" and "inequality" is a real issue, show them some facts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?...inue=5&v=UQCQFH5wOJo

According to quarterback Aaron Rodgers, this was a moment that stood for, “…equality.” As well as “…unity and love, and growing together as a society and starting a conversation around something that may be a little bit uncomfortable for people.”

Aaron, nearly all other NFL players, NFL Team owners, & NFL Management should be a little bit uncomfortable with the facts and false narrative they are protesting by showing disrespect for America and their former fans.

When they play the video posted above by oddball on the Jumbo Tron at a game and apologize, I will come back and watch. These are my conditions and terms for my return.

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Interesting unscientific poll on the local news this am in bronco country 40-45% said they would still not watch football bc of this.
Multiply that across the country-and Colorado is getting a bluer shade of purple every year.

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And on a personal level, Delanie Walker, a tight end for the Tennesee Titans, wrote in a post on Instagram that he and his family had received death threats since he spoke in support of the anthem protests. “The racist and violent words directed at me and my son only serve as another reminder that our country remains divided and full of hateful rhetoric,” he wrote.

Typical of the NYT to make Delanie Walker out to be the victim. If you recall, this is the same guy who said this earlier in the week “And the fans that don’t want to come to the game? I mean, OK. Bye. I mean, if you feel that’s something, we’re disrespecting you, don’t come to the game. You don’t have to. No one’s telling you to come to the game. It’s your freedom of choice to do that.”

Granted death threats are a little extreme, but did he really think he could tell the fans to kiss his ass and not get some sort of response in this heated climate?

Hit the poll:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YF_NFL_Poll

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Hit the poll:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YF_NFL_Poll

LOL!

Survey question1: Are you a pro football fan?

My answer: NO.

Survey response. Thank you for taking the survey.

LOL

Unfortunatly i know people that are buying into this unity bullshit. I think they are using it for the purpose it was inteded for. It helps them justifying in thier mind continuing to watch football. I dont know if they are too stupid to see how they are being played or they just dont care. Its the same as holding up four fingers and saying read between the lines, its still a bird. In my opinion weather they know it or not, linking arms in "unity" is still sending the original message "fuck the cops"

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HAHA!! Same here. I wonder if the answer were YES if the next series of questions would be to the effect of "With all the political BS from the NFL, are you still a pro football fan?"

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Hit the poll:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/YF_NFL_Poll

Done. Where can we go to see the results??