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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Yeah, 12s can be brutal for the officers, plus also means there's often no overlap between shifts.

For regular shifts, I think 10s are the sweet spot... 2 on 1 off, 2 on 2 off. Plus plenty of shift overlap.

Most of my career was four ten hour shifts per week, with three consecutive days off. Loved it, compared to 8 hour/5 day work weeks. Night shifts were good, but Morning Watch (10:00 PM to 8:00 AM) were terrible, but bearable. It usually took me one "off" day to recover.

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Originally posted by Edmond:

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
I hope you made it somewhere but if you have not yet been hired, look at the fed's. Much better gig IMHO.

Buddy got hired few years ago at a smaller department in southwest Florida and he encouraged me to apply. I turned him down as I'm at the point in my life where age and the realization that the shit you guys put up with isn't worth $45k a year. While the satisfaction of public service would've been great, the practicality of wanting a higher quality of life overrode that.

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Originally posted by mrvmax:
Same here, I was in peak physical shape, scored high on tests, top secret security clearance with spotless background. The white Sgt for Texas DPS who administered the test said I'd never get hired the first time through since I wasn't a minority (I was tested separately than the other applicants due to residing out of state so it was me and two other caucazoids testing). My Hispanic sister in law got hired then quit during the academy because it was too hard.

What a shame, they spent probably thousands of dollars on her to get to that point. I think people like that should repay what the taxpayers spent.

I'm a minority, just not the right minority that checks boxes for the diversity and inclusion crowd.

I'm actually half Mexican but I never list myself as that on applications, maybe I should have. The reason why my sister in law quit, in the middle of the night at the academy they'd pick two people to fight and they kept picking men against her and she was repeatedly getting pummeled until she couldn't take it. She went into the Commanders office crying saying she was quitting. He told her to stop crying,my kind of guy. Honestly I think they all should do that, if she couldn't take it in the academy she'd end up being in videos like this or dead. They did her and the citizens of Texas a favor. After being rejected my first time applying I found employment elsewhere and when they hired again I could not afford the pay cut so I never applied again.

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Originally posted by mrvmax:
I'm actually half Mexican but I never list myself as that on applications, maybe I should have. The reason why my sister in law quit, in the middle of the night at the academy they'd pick two people to fight and they kept picking men against her and she was repeatedly getting pummeled until she couldn't take it. She went into the Commanders office crying saying she was quitting. He told her to stop crying,my kind of guy. Honestly I think they all should do that, if she couldn't take it in the academy she'd end up being in videos like this or dead. They did her and the citizens of Texas a favor. After being rejected my first time applying I found employment elsewhere and when they hired again I could not afford the pay cut so I never applied again.

Life isn’t fair. Had she gone full psycho and done her best to seriously injure the first guy they put her up against, that stuff would have stopped right there. Of course, if she had it in her to do that, they wouldn’t have been trying her.

When we first moved out to the ranch, Mrs. slosig was nervous about living in the country. At the suggestion of our vet and good friend we got a Witmer-Tyson K-9. The class was four weeks training with officers who were also just getting their dogs and getting trained up with them. There was one BART officer, Kelly, who was smaller than most folks there. Her dog, also a female, was if not the smallest, definitely in the running. It didn’t take long at all to figure that of everyone there, those were the two that you would not even think of screwing with. There is a whole lot of truth in the old saying about “the size of the fight in the dog” and it applies to people too.

With the dependency on the 12 hour day here in Chicago, I think it will be utilized more often. Less vehicles are needed, less house mice and desk dollies, more coverage overall, and then if the swiping in and out gets tied to payroll, it's a huge saving on the overtime issues. Of course these changes will no doubt have to be bargained for in the next contract. This, early retirement and the complete lack of people wanting to be the Police, will force this to the forefront of negotiations. But hey, the city could go completely belly up and become a ghost town.

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After being rejected my first time applying I found employment elsewhere and when they hired again I could not afford the pay cut so I never applied again.

When I applied in FL, I was underemployed at the time. But fast forward to today, sorry, not taking a huge paycut for that because it will change the way my family lives. Spoke to a few guys and one said, "I make $75k a year..." Yeah but that's working your 40 plus OT and off duty work. When would he have time to enjoy that money? Meanwhile, I worked as a homebuilder making that working 50 hours a week M-F and enjoying my evenings and weekends.

Back in the mid to late 1980's I took several tests including the NYSP test. I scored pretty high, but as a perfectly good white guy I needed 100% to have any chance. Pretty much every minority and female I knew that was trying got hired. I've done all right so in the end it's all worked out. I don't envy anyone who's working in LE right now, and I can see why it's getting so hard to find quality candidates.

Forget the complete imbecile walking through the scene. Here we have yet another instance of a female police officer who really needs to find another line of work.

But, you know, "diversity" and shit...

"Show me your hands!", after thug already shot at her partner.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Forget the complete imbecile walking through the scene. Here we have yet another instance of a female police officer who really needs to find another line of work.

But, you know, "diversity" and shit...

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When the only way to meet "Diversity Goals" is to lower (or totally eliminate) standards, this is what you get. While the police department gets blamed for the results, the personnel department (which defines those goals, sets the standards, and directs the police department to hire and retain these unqualified employees) skates and continues to do business as usual.

I see there are several replies from police officers who work the streets every day.

I don't understand why officers don't have night sticks/ASP batons very often anymore. Once the guy had the knife taken from him by the store clerk, a few sharp blows with an ASP baton in the right place would have taken a lot out of him. I have heard the argument against ASP batons is that they break bones. But isn't it better to have a broken arm than eat a bullet?

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Originally posted by Cabellocabeza:
I see there are several replies from police officers who work the streets every day.

I don't understand why officers don't have night sticks/ASP batons very often anymore. Once the guy had the knife taken from him by the store clerk, a few sharp blows with an ASP baton in the right place would have taken a lot out of him. I have heard the argument against ASP batons is that they break bones. But isn't it better to have a broken arm than eat a bullet?

A baton would have taken care of that tinted side window in Para's video so the officer didn't have to be in the front 180 of the driver. Or whatever that bra thing is.