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Serenity now! |
What an absolutely horrible tragedy. I just watched some videos of the shooting, and I'm still shaking. My brother and his family live in LV and usually go to these types of events. Fortunately, he texted that they weren't there and are all OK. My thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by this tragedy. Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice - pull down your pants and slide on the ice. ʘ ͜ʖ ʘ | |||
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It sounded like machine gun fire. What in the world, does anybody know what he shot these people with? My lord, this year has been awful for so many. GGF | |||
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| Coin Sniper |
That is exactly the message that a country needs and expects from a President after an incident like this. Well done Mr. President. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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I'd say that's pretty far-fetched. Not impossible but, somebody that has lived 2/3 of their life one way but, converts to a lifestyle/religion that requires strict adherence and devotion is quite a leap of change. Obviously there's more to come and I'm not dismissing the convert angle all together however, it's not even in my top-5 of possible motives. | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
I just saw the video of Jason Aldean running off the stage and his fans standing there confused. It's a horrifying situation, so I'm not trying to bash the guy, but didn't he owe it to his fans to at least yell there is a sniper get down? Again, I can't fault the guy for how he reacted, but I don't get why he couldn't have said something like that. Maybe I'm wrong and that would have caused people to panic and get hurt. | |||
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The Karmanator |
My heart grieves for the victims. Two things stand out to me. 1) That is a lot of rounds down range for 4.5 minutes. 2) To me the shooter was awfully far away. 32 floors up and a 1/4 to 1/3 of a mile away. | |||
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| Coin Sniper |
There is a press briefing right now, the Sheriff has corrected to 58, possibly 59 deceased and 515 injured at the point of his statement. The suspects house was searched and that evidence is being brought back. The Mandalay Bay hotel is back open except for the 32nd floor. The evidence gathering at the scene will take time and he asked for patience, but they will do everything they can to get victims reconnected with family as soon as possible. He made a plea for blood donations as local blood banks are now severely depleted. The FBI responded to the ISIS claim by stating that their is no known connection at this time, but the investigation continues. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
Most people don't think straight in such situations. . . Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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I don't think he had enough information to give reliable advice to anyone. | |||
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Not good to MMQB the reactions of the performer unless it's absolutely hainous. Don't recall anybody second guessing Queens of the Stone Age during their performance in Paris 2015 before terrorists opened up as apart of a wider attack. | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
Unlikely, but lonely, old dudes do all kind of stupid stuff when they "find love" late in life. It's how gold diggers get everything that they get. If the game is radicalization instead of money, it still works the same. Guys ditch friends, family, country, just to keep their little honey happy. Again, unlikely, but not unthinkable. Going to clean my rifle. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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| Big Stack |
I'm a little late to the situation, but I heard somewhere that they questioned and cleared her.
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I can't even comprehend such evil. My thoughts and prayers to all those affected. | |||
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Coupled with the fact he is staring at lights, and can't see crap about what is going on, and wearing ear pieces. Think about it, you can't see what is happening, you can't hear, and someone (you security) is most likely beckoning you off stage - what else would you do in such confusion? | |||
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| Coin Sniper |
He is a performer, an artist, not a first responder and likely has never been in a SHTF situation. He did what everyone else did he panicked then sought cover. Most Americans don't immediately slip into an incident mitigation mindset when things go south. I would hardly blame him, although I'm sure many will take this as an opportunity to gain some 'street cred' on social media. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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It's about 400yds so yeah, 1/4 mile ------------------------------------ My books on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/William-...id=1383531982&sr=8-1 email if you'd like auto'd copies. | |||
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| Mired in the Fog of Lucidity |
This from CNN: Shooter bought guns legally, early reports indicate From CNN's Evan Perez: Shooter Stephen Paddock had purchased multiple firearms in the past — he bought several in California, a law enforcement official told CNN. But those don't appear to be among the 10 or more found in the Mandalay Bay hotel room. So far, investigators believe the firearms were purchased legally. The suspicion, based on initial reports, is that any of the rifles used were altered in order to function as an automatic weapon, the official said. Among the weapons found so far are a .223 caliber and a .308 caliber. | |||
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| Member |
He is responsible. His finger was on the trigger(s) but I fail to believe a 64 year old man just goes off the deep end without a push. He planned this as he had already been there a few days as I have read. Anyone who does this type of thing is mentally ill with no thought of others but this wasn't just show up and start shooting. Something isn't right. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not. | |||
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| Non-Miscreant |
ISIS are just opportunists who want to claim every terrible incident as their work. Much like democrats wanting to use it as an excuse to promote gun control. Both groups are disgusting. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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safe & sound |
Odds are good he didn't even hear the shooting. Those guys are wearing custom ear pieces that block out sound. More likely than not a voice in his ear told him to evacuate the stage. This was mentioned earlier, but when these types of event occur, Americans really shine. People who have no obligation to help put themselves in harms way to help others. From shielding others, providing first aid, and doing whatever they can to get assistance for the fallen. Kudos to every single one of them. These are the true heros. Another group of people who I don't hear getting enough credit are the hospital employees. A mass casualty incident like this results in an all hands on deck situation. Can you imagine a 500 person influx into the hospital system? Surgeons, doctors, nurses, and all other hospital staff deserve some praise themselves. | |||
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