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Right. No pictures of the two of them together on Google but there is one of Epstein and Trump at the top of the page. Also tried DuckDuckGo. No pictures of Clinton and Epstein.
 
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Right. No pictures of the two of them together on Google but there is one of Epstein and Trump at the top of the page. Also tried DuckDuckGo. No pictures of Clinton and Epstein.


Foxnews.com also has President Trump's picture right next to this dirtbag.

In the lib dream world, 'orange man bad' MUST be involved in this pedo ring, while they are bending over backwards to protect 'their' guy. . . Roll Eyes



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From the flight logs, it looks like Pokey Pants Bill Clinton was a passenger 12X.


I think it is 12x WITHOUT Secret Service Detail. I heard a total of 26x of flights and visits to the Island.


They are claiming it was 4 multi-leg trips consisting of a total of 26 flights, which I guess would make sense and be easily enough to verify or disprove by studying the logs.
 
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I'll guess we'll know that big names are about to be undeniably tied to Epstein's antics when the usual suspects trot out a parade of experts telling us pedophilia is in our DNA, a natural desire.




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I'll guess we'll know that big names are about to be undeniably tied to Epstein's antics when the usual suspects trot out a parade of experts telling us pedophilia is in our DNA, a natural desire.


For the record. I am fine with being a aberration to the natural order of things with my abnormal DNA.

I truly hope this is the end of the beginning of a great uncovering.




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I attended a sex crimes seminar a couple years ago and one of the things about the pedophile rings was the sharing of videos with others in the rings. It was a form of MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction, which would prevent one member of the ring turning in others in the ring. So I have wonder, how many hidden cameras were on the Epstein's plane and Island and what type of videos does he have hidden away for a "rainy-in case of going to jail" day? the guy is a billionaire so he has some smarts and would have contingency plans.
 
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Apparently, James "The Traitor" Comey's daughter is one of the prosecutors on the case. What a small world indeed.


Yup. This is NOT just about a sex offender.

When one considers elite names like Weinstein, Cosby, Jackson, Fairfax, and Clinton, it becomes apparent that the immunity that comes with elite status seemed the point, not the sex itself. The Southern District of New York has now deployed Maurene Comey as a prosecutor against Epstein, in a clear signal that Epstein has had his elite-status immunity revoked. What happened to cause that? Maurene Comey is the daughter of the self-appointed gatekeeper of America’s two-tiered justice system himself: former FBI director James Comey. Her involvement may also be a sign that Epstein’s fall has something to do with the man who fired the prosecutor’s father: Donald Trump.

https://thefederalist.com/2019...in-effort-get-trump/
 
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The thing that interests me the most from the original case is that his guilty plea resulted in immunity for any "potential co-conspirators" as well. That is mind boggling to me, maybe some of our resident attorneys can shed some light on how common this is because to me it feels like an epic rug sweep by the prosecutors.



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The thing that interests me the most from the original case is that his guilty plea resulted in immunity for any "potential co-conspirators" as well. That is mind boggling to me, maybe some of our resident attorneys can shed some light on how common this is because to me it feels like an epic rug sweep by the prosecutors.


That is unheard of. Power and money at work. The charges in New York are not bound by that deal
 
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New Records Contradict Clinton’s Timeline On Relationship With Epstein

A new report on old records from the 1990s contradicts former President Bill Clinton's timeline of his relationship with alleged pedophile and child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein.

On Monday, Clinton released a statement condemning "the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago" and "those with which he has been recently charged in New York."

Clinton's statement detailed his interactions with Epstein, which included multiple flights that he took with Epstein, "one meeting with Epstein in his Harlem office in 2002," and a "brief visit to Epstein’s New York apartment with a staff member and his security detail."

The earliest interaction Clinton said that he had with Epstein was in 2002, which is the same time period that Epstein is alleged to have engaged in the criminal activity described in the charges released this week.

However, a new Fox News report sheds light on interactions that Clinton had with Epstein from nearly a decade prior to the timeline of events that Clinton provided to the public:

But according to a story published back in March 1995 by the Palm Beach Post, then-President Clinton attended a “three-hour dinner” at the time with a “very select group of people” at the Palm Beach home of business magnate Ron Perelman. The diverse group included Epstein -- as well as singer Jimmy Buffet, actor Don Johnson, then-co-chairman of the Democratic National Committee Don Fowler and others.

The report noted: "Joining Clinton for a three-hour dinner was a very select group of people, some of whom, according to one Democratic Party source, gave as much as $100,000 to the Democratic National Committee for the privilege of dining with the president."

Fox News added that Clinton's office did not respond to a request for comment on how well the two knew each other during Clinton's presidency.

On Monday night, investigative journalist Conchita Sarnoff told Fox News, in response to Clinton's statement, that when Clinton traveled with Epstein, there were "underage girls" on the planes.

"Many of those times Clinton had his Secret Service with him and many times he did not," Sarnoff told Fox's Shannon Bream. "Almost every time that Clinton's name is on the pilot logs there are underage girls, there are initials and there are names of many, many girls on that private plane."

"Are you saying the former president is not telling the truth?" Bream asked Sarnoff.

"Yes, I'm saying, sadly, that he is not telling the truth," Sarnoff responded.

https://www.dailywire.com/news...meline-ryan-saavedra




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But... Hillary certainly wasn't left out... Wink




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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it's a daily mail. It does have some updated info.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-underage-girls.html
 
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First casualty; Labor Secretary Acosta has announced his resignation over the hubris of his role in the earlier episode of the Epstein story.

Doubt he did anything wrong, but the Dems want heads....
 
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First casualty; Labor Secretary Acosta has announced his resignation over the hubris of his role in the earlier episode of the Epstein story.


Not going to link it, but CNN headlines this with a font the size of 9/11 or Katrina. Nice.



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^^^ Yep, and they want everyone else's head to roll but those of WJC and HRC in my opinion.
 
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First casualty; Labor Secretary Acosta has announced his resignation over the hubris of his role in the earlier episode of the Epstein story.

Not going to link it, but CNN headlines this with a font the size of 9/11 or Katrina. Nice.

... and this is supposed to reflect negatively on President Donald J. Trump. Roll Eyes

The Clintons are done, politically, but when are they going to be indicted? Dual justice system?
They need to feel some heat.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Out of an abundance of caution, I'm going to suggest maybe we should all just wait for this to shake out a bit more before we build any real strong opinions (consider the Robert Kraft deal). Let's see where all this goes...


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Doubt he did anything wrong, but the Dems want heads....

They wouldn’t dream of looking at their own...I’m so waiting for Bill to be confirmed. Jail would be the perfect place for him to end his life.




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Nemesis Rising!

by James Howard Kunstler

Where are Clintons, these dog days of summer? The Hamptons? Salty, sunny Martha’s Vineyard? Under a rock somewhere in the Chappaqua woods? Fate is turning in more than one uncomfortable way for the once-charmed couple of Boomerdom.

There is, of course, the freshly re-issued Jeffrey Epstein underage sex scandal, come ‘round again with a vengeance this time because there are fewer Clinton partisans left in the Department of Justice where the matter has festered for decades like a fistula slowly seeping its rot through the body politic. The vengeance emanates from the Clinton’s nemesis, the uppity Golden Golem of Greatness who dared to “steal” Hillary’s place in the Oval Office (and history). To put it plainly, Mr. Trump had enough of the two-year-plus persecution he endured from the Clinton-inspired Mueller investigation into the Clinton-propagated Russia Collusion flim-flam. And having patiently survived this audacious, seditious effrontery, is now out to squash the Clintons like a pair of palmetto bugs.

At this fraught hour of a frightful age, one turns to a metaphysical contemplation of these two Clintons, Hill-and-Bill, and just what it is that they represented in our national life these many years. Mainly, what I wonder is just how much power and influence they exerted behind-the-scenes in Washington since their exit from the White House in 2001. For example, starting with the most recent shenanigans, the curious composition of Robert Mueller’s Special Counsel team, spiked with obvious Clinton insiders such as Andrew Weissmann, present at HRC’s aborted victory party on election night 2016, Jeannie Rhee, a lawyer for the Clinton Foundation, and several other former Obama-era DOJ staffers. How did that happen? How did Mr. Mueller get away with that?

One obvious answer: the media titans ignored it. This leads the casual observer to ask; how did it work that revered pillars of The News, like The New York Times, The Washington Post, NBC, CBS, and so many others became captives of the Clinton narrative? What is the reality there? Probably not so much that the Clinton’s actually control persons and agencies, but that they are figurehead monarchs of the bureaucratic monster called the Deep State; and that this Deep State has been doing everything possible to preserve its increasingly corrupt perquisites against the call to dismantle them — a.k.a. “draining the Swamp.”

Can there be any shred of doubt left in this land that if anyone “colluded” with Russians to interfere in the 2016 election it was the Clinton Campaign’s Fusion GPS disinformation unit, which assembled The Narrative, with the assistance of CIA Director John Brennan, and peddled it to the willfully credulous FBI led by James Comey and the news media. We won’t rehash any more of this excruciatingly complex criminal project, except to note that it is now unraveling with equally painful blowback to the people responsible, including Hillary Rodham Clinton who may be liable for a heap of felony charges in the matter.

All of that nasty business may redound to the various intrigues emanating from HRC’s years as Secretary of State, namely the fantastic hoovering up of hundreds of millions of dollars by the Clinton Foundation from foreign parties doing business with the State Department, including the Russian Federation. How did all that indecency slip through the cracks? Once again, the media ignored it because it would not advance their interests in gender and identity politics to investigate the avatar of the party promoting those crusades. And because the Obama Justice Department under Loretta Lynch deliberately looked the other way for similar reasons.



And now there is the Epstein matter, which threatens not only former president Bill Clinton, but a cosmos of political, financial, and entertainment “stars” in countless ugly incidents that involve a kind of personal corruption that has no political context but says an awful lot about the obliteration of moral and ethical boundaries by the people who ended up running things in this fretful moment of US history. President Clinton has already kicked off this debacle by lying to the media about the number of rides he took on Mr. Epstein’s notorious airplane.

I voted for Bill Clinton twice. When they came up from the backwater of Little Rock, Arkansas, in 1992, they seemed like the fresh, bright antidote to twelve years of fusty Reaganism with the GHW Bush moldy cherry-on-top. Governor Bill, so glib and charming. Tall and catnip to the ladies, too! And almost immediately he was in deep shit over that part of his act, but he wiggled through it all with the aid of his perky, stalwart wife and partner, who defended him sedulously on nationwide TV. (America had never even heard about her misadventures on the Watergate Committee, where, age 27, she gained a reputation for being less than honest.) And that was followed by the first instance of Hillary moneygrubbing when she turned a few thousand bucks into a six-figure bonanza almost overnight in a wired commodities trade.

After all that bother they mostly minded their manners in the White House until Bill got all sexed up by Miss Lewinsky, and they managed to slip through that fiasco without penalty. It was really in the years following — after they left the White House copping some historic GI furnishings, and got caught doing it — that they put together their fabulous empire of grift known as the Clinton Foundation, with its do-good cover act called the Clinton Global Initiative. Curiously now, we learn that Bill was pretending to be on various world-saving missions during many of those trips he took on the Epstein Travel Service plane. We’ll see how that pans out going forward.

When all is said and done, the official business of going forward with these various scandals and their unwindings may prove to be the most nauseating and destabilizing period in our nation’s history. Nemesis is rising.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news...07-12/nemesis-rising



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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