It’s either, he with the gold makes the rules, or rules is rules. Don’t like it, get out!

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Originally posted by bendable:
How important is it that the employers rules are followed?

In this case, very.

Location filming is done by permit from local authorities. Also, movie production is not an essential business. They are, in essence, only able to film with government permission.

A compliance officer catches the production going forward without appropriate safety measures, they could put a halt to it all, costing hundreds of jobs on this production and thousands of other jobs of it causes problems with other movies in the pipe.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:


Right, I agree that the lockdown (and all other similarly ill-contrived government responses) are stupid and definitely wouldn't have worked on our large and non-homogeneous country.

"Lockdowns" were never necessary, had people not been so pig headed. The "I'm free, I do what I want, I don't have to wear a mask" crowd," that refuses to take basic, dirt-simple (so simple even a fucking caveman could do it) steps, would have averted nearly all the problems we're having. Wear the fucking mask. Social fucking distance. Stay the fuck home for thanksgiving. Wash the fucking hands. Simple fucking things.

Instead, we have a nation of fucking idiots: science deniers, conspiracy theorists, who don't believe it's real. Explain it all away with conspiracy theories. It's just the flu. It will go away when it warms up. No need to tell the public. Every reported death is fake. They're just calling everything covid now. Those people. The deniers. The you-can't-make-me-be-responsible, so-I-won't crowd.

None of the job losses, the excess deaths, the "lockdowns" have ever been necessary: it's ALL driven by those who think they're too free to give a shit about themselves, their nation, their community, or common sense.

A buddy just lost his mentor of 40 years. The mentor died of Covid-19. My buddy didn't believe in Covid. Now he says he doesn't know what to think. Another buddy just lost his father, same thing. He didn't believe Covid was real either. Now, he's not so sure. REALLY?

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:


Right, I agree that the lockdown (and all other similarly ill-contrived government responses) are stupid and definitely wouldn't have worked on our large and non-homogeneous country.

"Lockdowns" were never necessary, had people not been so pig headed. The "I'm free, I do what I want, I don't have to wear a mask" crowd," that refuses to take basic, dirt-simple (so simple even a fucking caveman could do it) steps, would have averted nearly all the problems we're having. Wear the fucking mask. Social fucking distance. Stay the fuck home for thanksgiving. Wash the fucking hands. Simple fucking things.

Instead, we have a nation of fucking idiots: science deniers, conspiracy theorists, who don't believe it's real. Explain it all away with conspiracy theories. It's just the flu. It will go away when it warms up. No need to tell the public. Every reported death is fake. They're just calling everything covid now. Those people. The deniers. The you-can't-make-me-be-responsible, so-I-won't crowd.

None of the job losses, the excess deaths, the "lockdowns" have ever been necessary: it's ALL driven by those who think they're too free to give a shit about themselves, their nation, their community, or common sense.

A buddy just lost his mentor of 40 years. The mentor died of Covid-19. My buddy didn't believe in Covid. Now he says he doesn't know what to think. Another buddy just lost his father, same thing. He didn't believe Covid was real either. Now, he's not so sure. REALLY?

Agree with all. We had the “deniers” on here. The Covid thread was littered with them every other post in the beginning. Immediately, politics was thrown in, that it was all a big scam to get Trump to lose. I stayed out of that talk and thread and just did the basic, common sense things. Stay away from crowds indoors, mask up while indoors, don’t touch the face, and sanitize via sanitizer or rubbing alcohol etc. You know basic common damn sense. I skipped the politics altogether and just focused on the medical folks with PHD’s and what they said. My cousin, like your buddy, said to me 6 weeks ago “I look at covid completely different now” while my aunt, and only close family member, and her mother was on the ventilator fighting for her life. She ended up dying. They let their guard down, and went to a Casino. My aunt, her best friend and my cousin. It was all I could do from chewing my cousin out with f bombs. If I had known my aunt was going I would put a stop to it, including driving all the way up to OK and pulling her ass out of there. Now she is dead. Someone tell me Covid is some sham. I was first up speaking at the funeral. But to hear from my cousin, how she looks at it all different now, really? She knew I was pissed and given the circumstances I didn’t go off, but I said enough that she knew in translation that’s exactly what I was doing. Prior my aunt had been militant about it. She got it, her best friend, my cousin, and my aunt’s husband. My aunt paid the price. And it hit me like a ton of bricks and I’m just now, to this day, over a month after the funeral, starting to come back to my normal and I have a long way to go. This was the closest to a real mother I ever had, and I only got to know her 5 years of my life. I was and am still devastated.

I’ve been wearing a mask in the winters when I’m sick for many years due to learning it from the Japanese. If I catch a cold, get the flu, my doctors office gives me 6 or so masks at my request (that they use themselves) to use during the time I am communicable. I work from home during this time, only go where necessary like grocery trips and push my gym time to late at night when it’s dead and clean everything I use before and after, religiously (but I do this normally anyways). I stay away from everyone. I can’t recall how many years I’ve been doing this, probably about 7 years now, so the basic common principles or asks that you talked about, is modus operandi and none of it is that difficult. Basic common sense that the Japanese have been doing for I don’t know how long, decades.

It pisses me off to no end the deniers and the excuses and the politicization of it all. You said it best gup, a nation of fucking idiots. They won’t even do this simple stuff to protect their own life much less anyone else. This is why I said I do not blame Tom Cruise’s crazy ass at all for his rant in the OP. I wanted to do the same thing, in the same tone, with the same anger to my cousin but refrained because it was too late.

God help us all. And best of luck to Tom. I need a new Mission Impossible movie. I need new movies. I can watch them at home in safety and I’m tired of watching old shit. Anything sans alcohol (no more for me) to get my mind off of death is welcome. I don’t like Scientology and Cruise is big into that shit but his stock went way up with this rant with me, way the fuck up. Someone has to get into that ass.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:


Right, I agree that the lockdown (and all other similarly ill-contrived government responses) are stupid and definitely wouldn't have worked on our large and non-homogeneous country.

"Lockdowns" were never necessary, had people not been so pig headed. The "I'm free, I do what I want, I don't have to wear a mask" crowd," that refuses to take basic, dirt-simple (so simple even a fucking caveman could do it) steps, would have averted nearly all the problems we're having. Wear the fucking mask. Social fucking distance. Stay the fuck home for thanksgiving. Wash the fucking hands. Simple fucking things.

Instead, we have a nation of fucking idiots: science deniers, conspiracy theorists, who don't believe it's real. Explain it all away with conspiracy theories. It's just the flu. It will go away when it warms up. No need to tell the public. Every reported death is fake. They're just calling everything covid now. Those people. The deniers. The you-can't-make-me-be-responsible, so-I-won't crowd.

None of the job losses, the excess deaths, the "lockdowns" have ever been necessary: it's ALL driven by those who think they're too free to give a shit about themselves, their nation, their community, or common sense.

A buddy just lost his mentor of 40 years. The mentor died of Covid-19. My buddy didn't believe in Covid. Now he says he doesn't know what to think. Another buddy just lost his father, same thing. He didn't believe Covid was real either. Now, he's not so sure. REALLY?

Agree with all. We had the “deniers” on here. The Covid thread was littered with them every other post in the beginning. Immediately, politics was thrown in, that it was all a big scam to get Trump to lose. I stayed out of that talk and thread and just did the basic, common sense things. Stay away from crowds indoors, mask up while indoors, don’t touch the face, and sanitize via sanitizer or rubbing alcohol etc. You know basic common damn sense. I skipped the politics altogether and just focused on the medical folks with PHD’s and what they said. My cousin, like your buddy, said to me 6 weeks ago “I look at covid completely different now” while my aunt, and only close family member, and her mother was on the ventilator fighting for her life. She ended up dying. They let their guard down, and went to a Casino. My aunt, her best friend and my cousin. It was all I could do from chewing my cousin out with f bombs. If I had known my aunt was going I would put a stop to it, including driving all the way up to OK and pulling her ass out of there. Now she is dead. Someone tell me Covid is some sham. I was first up speaking at the funeral. But to hear from my cousin, how she looks at it all different now, really? She knew I was pissed and given the circumstances I didn’t go off, but I said enough that she knew in translation that’s exactly what I was doing. Prior my aunt had been militant about it. She got it, her best friend, my cousin, and my aunt’s husband. My aunt paid the price. And it hit me like a ton of bricks and I’m just now, to this day, over a month after the funeral, starting to come back to my normal and I have a long way to go. This was the closest to a real mother I ever had, and I only got to know her 5 years of my life. I was and am still devastated.

I’ve been wearing a mask in the winters when I’m sick for many years due to learning it from the Japanese. If I catch a cold, get the flu, my doctors office gives me 6 or so masks at my request (that they use themselves) to use during the time I am communicable. I work from home during this time, only go where necessary like grocery trips and push my gym time to late at night when it’s dead and clean everything I use before and after, religiously (but I do this normally anyways). I stay away from everyone. I can’t recall how many years I’ve been doing this, probably about 7 years now, so the basic common principles or asks that you talked about, is modus operandi and none of it is that difficult. Basic common sense that the Japanese have been doing for I don’t know how long, decades.

It pisses me off to no end the deniers and the excuses and the politicization of it all. You said it best gup, a nation of fucking idiots. They won’t even do this simple stuff to protect their own life much less anyone else. This is why I said I do not blame Tom Cruise’s crazy ass at all for his rant in the OP. I wanted to do the same thing, in the same tone, with the same anger to my cousin but refrained because it was too late.

God help us all. And best of luck to Tom. I need a new Mission Impossible movie. I need new movies. I can watch them at home in safety and I’m tired of watching old shit. Anything sans alcohol (no more for me) to get my mind off of death is welcome. I don’t like Scientology and Cruise is big into that shit but his stock went way up with this rant with me, way the fuck up. Someone has to get into that ass.

I think the majority of people know it is real but there are numerous other things we can die from and not one of them was overreacted to like Covid. We spent billions on stupid masks, ran small businesses into closing down, put people needlessly out of work and make people wear the placebo (i.e. mask) and the really stupid people are the ones that think if they and everyone else wear masks they will not get it.

My aunt died from Covid one day and my dad the very next. My dad died alone from these stupid COVID rules since nobody could go into the hospital to be with him. If everyone wore masks and washed their hands people would still get it and die from it.

So how do you know your relative got it from the casino and not the mailman delivering mail, or FedEX, or UPS, or Amazon or a million other ways people can transmit it? There is no possible way for anyone to isolate themselves from it unless you are on an island somewhere or someplace remote enough where nobody else is around. The problem is that people do not really fully understand how things are spread.

Some of you people are absolutely insane with the virus hysteria. Yes, when it's all said and done this virus will have been not much different than the seasonal flu. That's not denying science, it's looking at real data instead of the lying media and Dr. Fauci. If this had not been an election year with Trump in office we'd barely know there was a virus. Without the media's falsified daily death tolls, lock downs and seeing everyone in a virtue mask everyone would go on about their lives as usual. You're living in a fear induced fantasy world, if you're convinced of anything else. I don't know how you people are ever going to live a normal life again.

I am 63 w/o children. An I am pretty much ready to call it a life. Pretty much nothing of huge proportions to be anticipating.

Bonnie is 80, w / 4 kids and 5 grandkids.

We know a dozen people over 75 and another dozen over 80.

We've decided that there are those that want to keep a walkin and those that are ( like me) " ready to go".

We wear masks when we are out and about as a courtesy the others.

We park between the lines in the parking lot, not on the lines.

We push the shopping carts out of the way, not leave them in the parking spots.

We allow others to go ahead of us at the check out. As a courtesy.

We hold the door for others as a courtesy.

We tell other drivers when they have a tail light or blinker out, they seem appreciative.

None of this cost us any thing. And we appreciate it when others do it for us.

Civilality dictates courtious behavior.

It's a very very sad state of affairs when the people who fought and died in wars can't , at the very least, expect a courtesy out in the general public.

I appreciate and agree the comments by Aeteocles, sn3guppy and Prefontaine above. I’ll leave it at that.

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
Some of you people are absolutely insane with the virus hysteria. Yes, when it's all said and done this virus will have been not much different than the seasonal flu. That's not denying science, it's looking at real data instead of the lying media and Dr. Fauci. If this had not been an election year with Trump in office we'd barely know there was a virus. Without the media's falsified daily death tolls, lock downs and seeing everyone in a virtue mask everyone would go on about their lives as usual. You're living in a fear induced fantasy world, if you're convinced of anything else. I don't know how you people are ever going to live a normal life again.

You realize that this thing isn't just in the US? Countries all over the world, who give zero shits about US media and politics, have organized tremendous responses to this virus. Countries don't go into lockdown, shutter their industries, stop transport, and open up field hospitals for just another flu.

But whatever. Let's pretend that this is all hysteria. What good is it to push the "its no big deal" agenda *at this point*. I'm tired of footing the bill for yet another round of stimulus. I'm tired of the inconvenience of having businesses closed. I'm sure there are people who are tired of being out of a job. And I'm sure there are people out there who wish their love one didn't die. Why not just do each other a solid, and get proactive at not adding to the case count?

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
Some of you people are absolutely insane with the virus hysteria. Yes, when it's all said and done this virus will have been not much different than the seasonal flu. That's not denying science, it's looking at real data instead of the lying media and Dr. Fauci. If this had not been an election year with Trump in office we'd barely know there was a virus. Without the media's falsified daily death tolls, lock downs and seeing everyone in a virtue mask everyone would go on about their lives as usual. You're living in a fear induced fantasy world, if you're convinced of anything else. I don't know how you people are ever going to live a normal life again.

Well stated.

This damn thing was around as early as the second week in Sept - Oct of 2019, 6 months BEFORE anyone really knew shit about it. In those six months MILLIONS of people should have died, yet here we are...

How many people died of the flu this year? Old people die. They statistically die at a much higher rate than the rest of the population. I know and love a lot of old people. I’m pretty close to the dictionary definition myself.

This disease was a classic mishandling. The shutdowns were wildly myopic. We could have put up protections against the most vulnerable without the massive rise in suicides, depression, untreated undiagnosed killers, etc. People would still died of it.

I ask people who the last person they know who died of the flu. I literally have yet to meet a person who can answer that question. Why? Is it because no one dies of the flu or because you don’t track the flu? Now everyone has a covid story. Doesn’t matter that your loved one was 89 and in hospice. Yep, covid killed em.

Perspective. Context. It matters. When they look back at 2020 and the seasonal deaths to flu and pneumonia are basically at nothing, will they say that these deaths were misdiagnosed as covid? Nope. Prepare to hear how simple hand washing and masks beat the flu. That isn’t science.

Btw, put me in the camp of mask wearing for healthy people is stupid virtue signaling. Hand washing and just better hygiene is effective. Masks for the general population? Come on.

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
Some of you people are absolutely insane with the virus hysteria. Yes, when it's all said and done this virus will have been not much different than the seasonal flu. That's not denying science, it's looking at real data instead of the lying media and Dr. Fauci. If this had not been an election year with Trump in office we'd barely know there was a virus. Without the media's falsified daily death tolls, lock downs and seeing everyone in a virtue mask everyone would go on about their lives as usual. You're living in a fear induced fantasy world, if you're convinced of anything else. I don't know how you people are ever going to live a normal life again.

That's the denier in you; the bullshit leaking out.

The notion that this is just a "flu." The idiocy of downplaying it, or hiding it or denying it.

It's easy to deny when you have a convenient conspiracy theory; nothing is true because of "fake news," and Fauci is discredited, along with the rest of the global scientific community.

Yes, it is worse than the seasonal flu. A lot worse. But keep your head buried in the sand, deny away until your own friends or family die, and then you too can say "I just don't know what to think."

It's not fixed with lysol in the blood stream or blue light in the lungs. It's not fixed with hydroxychloroquine. If anything, the numbers are under reported. It's increasing exponentially. Hospitals really are full, a number of which have called in freezers to contain the number of dead. ICU's in many areas are reaching or at capacity, with ventilator use up five hundred percent or more in the past few weeks. Expect a significant increase among those who simply are ignorant and stupid enough to gather for christmas, who don't wear masks, who don't distance, and who don't take the basic precautions that would have prevented much of this.

Denial is an ugly thing, and were this to only kill those who deny, it would still be ugly, but would be a self-correcting problem. Unfortunately, those who deny are the root of the problem, and they're making it worse,

I open this thread thinking I'd be reading funny responses to another bat-shit crazy actor doing bat-shit crazy stuff and am disappointed to find yet another hissy fit slap fight between grown ass men.

It’s America! We are free to engage in pissy fights. You are free to comment on them. Everyone wins.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
It’s America! We are free to engage in pissy fights. You are free to comment on them. Everyone wins.

Only if they're wearing a mask while commenting! Haha.

If Americans are so dumb which makes it impossible to control the virus, why is it also running rampant across Europe and Russia? Heck they now have a mutated strain in the UK that is going to wreak havoc on any plans for reopening.

The virus is serious, but it's proven without a doubt to be most dangerous to certain demographics, specifically those in the "elderly" age group and/or those with significant health risk factors. Seems "science" goes out the window when it comes to dealing with the pandemic.

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Originally posted by Puckpilot78:

The virus is serious, but it's proven without a doubt to be most dangerous to certain demographics, specifically those in the "elderly" age group and/or those with significant health risk factors. Seems "science" goes out the window when it comes to dealing with the pandemic.

Old people are more at risk of dying. Nobody is denying that. I just so happen to like my Grandma and my Parents, so, there's that.

But, there's also the economic harm that affects everyone. Even if you aren't out of a job, your tax dollars are being spent and your savings/retirement are being diluted with inflated dollars.

At this point, with the benefit of hindsight, everyone should just nut up and do their best to stamp this out. Like, what purpose does it serve to still be belligerent about it? Are you going to single-handedly reverse the course of 9 months worth of stupid .gov decisions by suddenly convincing them that the lockdowns and precautions are unnecessary?

I haven't served in the military, but arguing about the efficacy of mask wearing or of the deadliness of the disease is probably a lot like arguing with the drill instructor. Just get down there and do your fucking pushups before he makes everyone run laps.

I came across this and so am posting for anyone interested:

Ex-Scientologist Leah Remini says Tom Cruise's 'psychotic' COVID-19 rant was a publicity stunt. Leah Remini sent us this statement about Tom Cruise’s on-set rant that was caught on tape and released by the Sun yesterday…

"Tom Cruise claimed he does not get so much as a cold because of Scientology. All Scientologists believe that if they aren’t connected to what they label “suppressive persons” they will not get sick.

According to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, “All illnesses to a greater or lesser degree stem from a PTS situation.” PTS stands for “Potential Trouble Source.”

A “PTS” is a person who is connected to a suppressive person or a suppressive group. They are so screwed up by their connection to the “SP” they have potential to be trouble to themselves and more importantly, to Scientology. When you are sick in Scientology, you are sent to the Ethics Department. You are in fact in trouble for being sick. If you have anything from a cold to cancer in Scientology it means you must be connected to an SP. You are immediately interrogated to see if you have read or seen anything that exposes Scientology, you are interrogated to see if you are connected to anyone or anything that is anti-Scientology. That could mean speaking to your own child who spoke out against the abuses he or she received in Scientology. And after they find “the why,” which is the reason for your illness, they then make you handle the situation, which means disconnecting from the person or group who they label an enemy.

Who is a suppressive person or group? Anyone who exposes Scientology. And anyone connected to that person or group are all either suppressive or PTS. If one is PTS, they are considered “victims” of the real suppressive, and susceptible to illness. Groups that are considered suppressive to Tom and to Scientologists are government agencies, the police, the mental health field, any news organization or publications that exposes Scientology. The list goes on.

For example, Scientology teaches that children are PTS to their parents who have left Scientology. Someone like Suri is considered by her father and other Scientologists to be PTS because she has the unfortunate luck to be connected to an SP mother like Katie Holmes. So Suri may not be considered a full-blown suppressive herself, just connected to a suppressive. And Tom believes — like all Scientologists — that PTS people can be “potential trouble” to the “pure Scientologist,” and all Scientologists are taught to stay clear of the PTS folks and especially the suppressives.

But if you are highly trained and part of the elite beings of the planet like Tom is, you can “fight” the PTS-ness rubbing off. So Tom can be around a PTS for a short time without being affected too much. But you are not allowed to be PTS in Scientology or connected to someone who is PTS. You may have limited connection to the PTS if you must for public relations reasons, but Scientologists are required to cut ties with PTS people and SPs.

Tom does not believe in illness unless one is connected to suppressive persons, and Tom isn’t connected to SPs. Scientology makes sure that Tom is always surrounded by Scientologists, and Tom is so well versed in Scientology that he can “confront & shatter” SPs and suppressive groups.

David Miscavige called COVID “a planetary bullbait.” Bullbaiting in Scientology is a drill where Scientologists are taught to hold perfectly still while being “baited” into a reaction. This drill is taught in one of the most basic of mandatory courses in Scientology called Success Through Communications, or “the Comm Course.” All Scientologists, including children, are required to do this course and this drill as part of their training to be Scientologists. The drill is done by two Scientologists, one is assigned to be the coach and the other assigned the student.

The coach and student sit facing each other, the coach says “start.” The student can only sit there with their hands on their lap, saying nothing. The student cannot react in any way. The coach then tries to find the “buttons” that will make the student react. It usually starts with ridiculing the student’s looks to see if that warrants a reaction. If the student cries, laughs, winces, or shows anger, the coach says “flunk” and repeats the words that the student reacted to until the student no longer reacts to those words. If there is no reaction, the coach digs more and more until the coach finds the buttons that make the student react. There are no limits to this drill, and it usually goes into sexual and abusive content.

And then it is turned around, the student becomes the coach and then returns the favor. So the statement from leader of the Church of Scientology that COVID is a bullbait means it’s only a drill invented to make us all react, and Scientologists shouldn’t be reacting to a global pandemic but rather just going on with life as normal in their dedication to Scientology and their daily activities.

Anything you see coming from Scientology and Scientologists, such as mask wearing and supposedly humanitarian efforts, is just a show. It’s for public relations reasons only.

Tom’s reaction that was released yesterday shows his true personality. He is an abusive person. I witnessed it, I’ve been a recipient of it on a small level, and I’ve been told of similar abuse by his former girlfriend, his employees, and his friends. This is the real Tom. This was the same reaction Tom gave his household staff when they did not have the right ingredients for him to make chocolate chip cookies. This is the same type of tirade Tom launched into when an assistant had the audacity to serve him a drink in a chipped mug.

Tom does not care of the abuse that employees of the Sea Organization receive, Tom does not care that Shelly Miscavige is being held prisoner by her husband David Miscavige, Tom does not care because Tom subscribes to the abusive culture of Scientology. If you are a Scientologist and work for Tom, if you step out of line with Tom, if you want to work fewer hours to raise your children, Tom will send reports to his church on you. And reports like that end up causing an employee to pay for interrogations costing thousands of dollars. Did Tom care about his poor employees not seeing their children when they were required to work inhumane hours? Does Tom care that they did not have money for their children’s education because they were being security-checked for him? How about the Scientology assistant who asked to leave working for him to raise her family? This person was sent to Scientology for interrogations for months accusing her of having “evil undisclosed intentions towards Tom” for wanting to leave. This became so costly that she lost her home. Did Tom care about her feeding her family? Anyone who is a Scientologist who works for Tom is working for Scientology and they are sent to Scientology to be “handled” for Tom, costing that person thousands and thousands of dollars.

Tom does not care about the families of his crew; this is all for publicity. Tom does not believe in family values. I mean, how anyone is falling for this is just mindblowing. I would bet that Tom had this rant written for him and had his Scientology assistant record and release it. Hearing a rich actor with enormous power address his crew in this way is a sign of weakness and a deeply troubled person. This is not just a rant of another asshole actor. Tom Cruise pretending that he cares is why a few have called him out. They know this is a publicity stunt, they know what Tom really is and what Tom really believes. Tom believes in the destruction of family if a member decides to leave Scientology. Tom belongs to a cult that forbids victims of pedophiles to report to the police, Tom belongs to a cult that forbids victims of rape report their crimes or abuse… and if they do, his cult says their lives should be destroyed for doing so.

Tom has a history of being abusive to his inner circle, including the abuse of neglecting his own daughter, Suri.

His mental state is showing. Tom seems to think that Hollywood is incapable of making films without his help. Saying such a thing indicates the godlike figure Tom believes he is, and what he is told by Scientology. The reality is, anyone who is working in Hollywood today is working under strict COVID guidelines. Anyone who is working knows this. Tom Cruise is not dictating how films are being made, even if he seems to think so. This psychotic rant only proves what many who know Tom or have worked for Tom knows: He is an abusive dictator just as he was taught by his guru David Miscavige.

To commend this behavior only signifies that those who find this behavior normal or brave were probably abused or are abusers themselves. This is an actor with enormous power on the set of his film, this is not just a guy in the middle of a public place standing up to someone for not wearing a mask. This is Tom friggin’ Cruise wielding his power and threatening and degrading his crew.

As a producer and the lead of a film, Tom addressing his crew in this manner is a clear indication that he is used to abusing his power. He thinks this is normal behavior and, to be clear, this is “normal” behavior coming from a Scientologist. In fact, this is tame coming from a Scientologist. Abuse is not only taught in Scientology, but also commended. Hearing Tom abuse his crew while others are praising him for showing that he cares is a farce.

No one needs to be “addressed” by Tom about safety codes. There are producers who could have and should have handled the situation privately and professionally. What more likely happened was, two crew members who were in the same zone were talking to each other and Tom saw this as an opportunity to appear as the epitome of strength; of a leader who is taking this pandemic very seriously. This behavior is not normal or appropriate. No one can respond to his outburst without being fired. And again, this is not a pandemic that Tom and Scientology believe in.

In addition, Scientologists are so manipulative and abusive that they believe that this “tone” is the “winning tone” of the country right now and therefore can only help Tom’s reputation to have this leaked.

Imagine if this were a woman. She would be called a lunatic.

On a movie set there are COVID officers who monitor mask wearing. Crews are separated into groups and zones and are not allowed to step into zones they are not assigned to. The camera crew is in its own zones, and they are only allowed to be with each other. The wardrobe department is in their own zones and must eat together. They cannot mix in other zones, they must wear wrist bands that show what zones they are. The set is taped off to show where the zones are, and people know not to walk in a zone they don’t belong in. All cast and crew are tested every other day, temperatures are taken every day upon arrival to set, new masks are given upon their arrival, anyone from out of town must stay in their hotels and are monitored, they are driven to set from those in their zones. They are not being monitored by Tom Cruise; they are being monitored by the COVID officers assigned to the movie. There are strict guidelines that are being required to be on set.

So, my short answer to how I feel about yet another one of Tom’s psychotic rants being exposed? I am getting “small dick energy” from Tom and men like him.

And I only wish someone had stepped in and had done something about it. We have enough of the types who stand by and allow this kind of behavior to go on.

— Leah Remini"

https://tonyortega.org/2020/12...scientology-context/

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:


Denial is an ugly thing, and were this to only kill those who deny, it would still be ugly, but would be a self-correcting problem. Unfortunately, those who deny are the root of the problem, and they're making it worse,

I do not have your courage to say what you have said here. Just know that I agreed with your previous post, publicly. Thank you for saying what you are saying here.

What Prefontaine said above!

Thanks for correcting a drift Mikey.