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Lots of outlets reporting this. How many mistakes until he's grounded? No wonder the Millennium Falcon looked rough.

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Harrison Ford is being investigated for making an error while operating a plane this week in California, according to a new report.

The actor, an avid flyer, apparently landed at the Hawthorne Airport on Friday in Southern California when he began traveling from the runway to the taxiway. According to audio obtained by TMZ, Ford, 77, failed to follow a tower operator's direction to "hold short" on the runway due to "traffic."

Based on the audio, it appears the actor did not hear the direction. He began to cross the runway anyway, prompting the operator to scold him for not following his instructions.

"Get across that runway now! I told you to hold short! You need to listen up," the operator says.

"Excuse me, sir, I thought exactly the opposite. I'm terribly sorry," Ford responded immediately.

TMZ reported that there was no risk of a crash. The other plane was reportedly 3,600 feet from Ford's aircraft.

TMZ claims an official for the Federal Aviation Administration said the incident is now under investigation. Ford's rep told the outlet that he "misheard" the operator's instruction and apologized right away.

A rep for the actor did not immediately respond to Fox News' request for comment.

According to the outlet, Ford was in the middle of getting his license updated so that he can participate in relief efforts.

In 2015, Ford crashed his vintage World War II plane at a Los Angeles golf course. That didn't stop him from doing the hobby he loves, however, as he hopped back in the pilot's seat just three months later.




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If he had any sense he would surrender his pilot’s license before he gets himself or a bunch of people killed. But his ego is too big to do that.


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No wonder the Millennium Falcon looked rough.

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Calista Flockhart along with wiping the drool from his mouth several times a day, should just ground his ass. He seems to have become a danger to himself and others in the aviation community.



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If he had any sense he would surrender his pilot’s license before he gets himself or a bunch of people killed. But his ego is too big to do that.


If he had sense rather than ego. But as my grandfather would say to me at times, "If bulls had wings they could fly. But they don't have wings and they can't fly". (IE, face reality).




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He's seemed frail for a while.
Lucky he hasn't killed anyone.

FAA should clip his wings.




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I've had my pilot's license since ~1995... I'm not about to throw that first stone. Did Ford screw up ? Yes he did. Any pilot who has never missed a controller's instruction , put their hands up now.

By the way, he didn't "crash" that plane....it was my understanding that the engine quit. He made an off field landing and didn't kill himself. A lot of pilots get rattled when their engin quits and do stupid thing and don't survive. Just saying...........
 
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Good points, Mike.

I presume there isn't a set number of errors before a license pull is automatic?




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Itsa tough crowd in here, tough
he don't get no respect I tell ya
no respect....

That event doesn't even warrant a news
report, musta been a slow day at the paper....
 
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I've had my pilot's license since ~1995... I'm not about to throw that first stone. Did Ford screw up ? Yes he did. Any pilot who has never missed a controller's instruction , put their hands up now.

By the way, he didn't "crash" that plane....it was my understanding that the engine quit. He made an off field landing and didn't kill himself. A lot of pilots get rattled when their engin quits and do stupid thing and don't survive. Just saying...........


These two aren’t his only incidents. The fucker even landed on a taxiway while flying just over an airliner:
https://www.usatoday.com/story...h-airliner/99604096/

He needs to hand over his pilot’s license.


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Yeah that dumbass shouldn't be flying and I hope he only kills himself in the inevitable accident that claims his life.
 
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These two aren’t his only incidents. The fucker even landed on a taxiway while flying just over an airliner:
https://www.usatoday.com/story...h-airliner/99604096/

He needs to hand over his pilot’s license.


I assume that's the third "incident" referenced in the title.

He was involved in a crash following engine failure a few years ago? Was this his fault? I honestly don't know. It sounds like he put it down somewhere relatively safe.

This latest one was a botched taxi instruction. How many of those happen daily?

Landing on the taxiway in 2017? Yeah, that's a huge miss.

But...does that incident plus this botched taxi instruction, on its face, really warrant a person giving up their license forever? With no other data (things like the ratings and hours he holds).

I'm not a pilot, but it seems like a lot to hang on what is ultimately one major gaffe and one minor one. I assume and accept that there are many, many, many, many incidents like this that the public never hears anything about.
 
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everyone who has never, ever made a mistake while driving a car, raise your hand....

how many mistakes can you make (running a red light, running a stop sigh) should you be allowed to make before you and over your drivers license forever?

put it in perspective folks
 
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According to the outlet, Ford was in the middle of getting his license updated so that he can participate in relief efforts.


Sounds like he was doing a Biennial Flight Review (BFR), so he probably had a CFI with him at the time. Bet that went over well...
 
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Very basic mistake. Being polite counts for something but not there.
He's still alive.

Time to call it a day on the flying.


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everyone who has never, ever made a mistake while driving a car, raise your hand....

how many mistakes can you make (running a red light, running a stop sigh) should you be allowed to make before you and over your drivers license forever?

put it in perspective folks


I'm wondering about the perspective of making a mistake in the car, being able to put it in park and step away. Rather difficult to do that when in the air, or on someone else's runway.




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Should've had Chewie along as co-pilot. Betcha the wookiee wouldn't have "misheard" that tower call.


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I dunno, I’m not gonna hammer the guy for that. Yes, he should have been paying more attention and more clearly heard the controller. Yes, if he wasn’t absolutely positive, he should have either said, “Cross runway Two Fife, Husky eight niner Hotel Uniform?” while not moving one foot, waiting for correction/confirmation. Better would be to simply say, “I’m sorry sir, could you say again for Husky eight niner Hotel Uniform?”

Maybe he just takes the whole thing too casually and needs to be more serious/conservative. If so a small spanking from the FAA, some instruction, and a revalidation ride might be in order.

Maybe he is starting to go down the mental slope and is getting to the point where he isn’t capable of the sustained focus required to safely operate in the system. If so, his ticket should be pulled.

There isn’t enough information there for me to decide his fate.

As noted, while it is a shame that the Ryan got busted up, I certainly wouldn’t fault him for a dead stick landing that hurt nobody on the ground and he walked away from. The LA basin is not particularly overrun with even halfway decent options for an emergency landing. The only way I’d fault a pilot for that one is if the engine failure was caused by an error on his part, and I haven’t heard any evidence either way on that.

That TMZ article had two videos, when the first wouldn’t open for me I went to the second. It was audio of the conversation after landing on the taxiway. I didn’t listen to the whole thing. He was obviously badly shaken up and talking much more than he probably should have been.

When my time to hang the airplanes up comes, I hope I recognize it. I don’t have enough information to say whether he’s there or not, but it seems like our Friendly Aviation Authorities ought to investigate carefully and if appropriate pull his ticket or give him a 709 (formerly 609) ride.
 
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I was going to tell him to just stay out of CA, but it turns out he had an issue in NE , as well.





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