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You're aware, as an experienced 737 type rated pilot who has operated regularly from SNA, and as an instructor, that a medical isn't required, if Ford doesn't want to bother getting one. Right?[/QUOTE]

I'm not an ATP but just because you are a 737 "insert airframe here" type rated pilot does not make you exempt from a first class medical. See Part 61.23 Medical certificates: Requirement and duration section A (1) i-iii. Unless there is some other exemption for Commercial Air Carrier pilots that I am unaware of.
If there is please bring us up to speed as PEDROPCOLA and others with inquiring minds need to know.
 
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I'm not an ATP but just because you are a 737 "insert airframe here" type rated pilot does not make you exempt from a first class medical. See Part 61.23 Medical certificates: Requirement and duration section A (1) i-iii. Unless there is some other exemption for Commercial Air Carrier pilots that I am unaware of.
If there is please bring us up to speed as PEDROPCOLA and others with inquiring minds need to know.


Ford doesn't need a medical certificate at all, if he chooses not to hold one, let alone a first class medical. He doesn't need an ATP either, and as a private pilot, can fly under 14 CFR 61.113(i).

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/t...4.2.61_1113&rgn=div8

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(i) A private pilot may act as pilot in command of an aircraft without holding a medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter provided the pilot holds a valid U.S. driver's license, meets the requirements of §61.23(c)(3), and complies with this section and all of the following conditions and limitations:

(1) The aircraft is authorized to carry not more than 6 occupants, has a maximum takeoff weight of not more than 6,000 pounds, and is operated with no more than five passengers on board; and

(2) The flight, including each portion of the flight, is not carried out—

(i) At an altitude that is more than 18,000 feet above mean sea level;

(ii) Outside the United States unless authorized by the country in which the flight is conducted; or

(iii) At an indicated airspeed exceeding 250 knots; and

(3) The pilot has available in his or her logbook—

(i) The completed medical examination checklist required under §68.7 of this chapter; and

(ii) The certificate of course completion required under §61.23(c)(3).


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I.e. BasicMed

A sign off by your normal doc.


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I'm not an ATP but just because you are a 737 "insert airframe here" type rated pilot does not make you exempt from a first class medical. See Part 61.23 Medical certificates: Requirement and duration section A (1) i-iii. Unless there is some other exemption for Commercial Air Carrier pilots that I am unaware of.
If there is please bring us up to speed as PEDROPCOLA and others with inquiring minds need to know.


Ford doesn't need a medical certificate at all, if he chooses not to hold one, let alone a first class medical. He doesn't need an ATP either, and as a private pilot, can fly under 14 CFR 61.113(i).

https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/t...4.2.61_1113&rgn=div8

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(i) A private pilot may act as pilot in command of an aircraft without holding a medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter provided the pilot holds a valid U.S. driver's license, meets the requirements of §61.23(c)(3), and complies with this section and all of the following conditions and limitations:

(1) The aircraft is authorized to carry not more than 6 occupants, has a maximum takeoff weight of not more than 6,000 pounds, and is operated with no more than five passengers on board; and

(2) The flight, including each portion of the flight, is not carried out—

(i) At an altitude that is more than 18,000 feet above mean sea level;

(ii) Outside the United States unless authorized by the country in which the flight is conducted; or

(iii) At an indicated airspeed exceeding 250 knots; and

(3) The pilot has available in his or her logbook—

(i) The completed medical examination checklist required under §68.7 of this chapter; and

(ii) The certificate of course completion required under §61.23(c)(3).


Up to speed now?


Thanks. I was under the impression that the discussion had shifted to the ATP issue rather than was still dwelling on Ford. My mistake. Just curious what airframes do you have time in and where did you get your training?

I graduated from Auburn Univ with degrees in Aviation Management and Civil Engineering. Most of my training was completed at Auburn up through my commercial and multi.

Just wondering what others backgrounds are.
 
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I'm a crop duster by trade, that flies a couple of other things. The places I trained don't exist any more. I got ratings in a box of cracker jacks, and am at core, a student pilot. But Ford is the topic.

The thread title for the topic is still wrong. It claims 3 airplane mistakes in five years, and counts his forced landing in a golf course. Given the power loss, location, and the landing area, he did well, and certainly not an "airplane mistake." But we've covered that already.

Ford is a private pilot, currently with a second class medical certificate.
 
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Good grief, is this pissing contest still going on?
 
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Good grief, is this pissing contest still going on?
Don't hold your breath waiting for it to end. You'll probably turn blue.



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^^^^^ Well it was quiet for 15 hours.
 
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Ford doesn't need a medical certificate at all, if he chooses not to hold one



Yes...and no...

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On July 15, 2016, Congress passed legislation to extend the FAA's funding. This legislation, FAA Extension, Safety, Security Act of 2016 (FESSA) includes relief from holding an FAA medical certificate for certain pilots. This relief is called BasicMed.

When can I fly under BasicMed?
If you meet the BasicMed requirements, you can operate under BasicMed (without an FAA medical certificate) right now!

What do I need to do to fly under BasicMed?

Comply with the general BasicMed requirements (possess a U.S. driver's license, have held a medical after July 14, 2006).
Get a physical exam with a state-licensed physician, using the Comprehensive Medical Examination Checklist
Complete a BasicMed medical education course;
Go fly!


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Good grief, is this pissing contest still going on?

Damn, popcorn is getting hard to get in our local grocery stores.


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Must be fairly easy to do, apparently.
Nah, it isn't easy to do - but like all professions, there has to be a 'bottom of the barrel, but still made the minimum passing grade (somehow)' - and eventually 2 of those morons end up in the same plane together and eventually do some incredibly stupid shit... Wink


Q) What do you call the medical student who graduated bottom in his class ?

A) "Doctor"




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The FAA won't yank his license because he's HOLLYWOOD. He will kill himself flying, but hopefully he won't kill someone else on his way out. Can't think of a better way to go, but not at the expense of others.
It's not just a "yank." There is a process.

Celebrity status does not impart a free pass. Bob Hoover, for example. Incredibly talented pilot, one of the best, and the FAA grounded him.

I didn't imply it was a free pass, but it helps. Like the Hildabeaset, not all of her ilk get a free pass, but many do. Being a politician, high powered player, a person of questionable character with lots of connections, power brokers, and Hollwood, there are many exceptions to getting free passes that regular honest taxpayers don't enjoy, or would even tolerate. And no organizations are immune from favoritism or corruption, including the FAA. Look at the FBI, Justice, and FISA Court in recent years. Not exactly boy scouts.




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