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If you believe the opposition are less than human, it's less of a leap to accept alternative reasoning. As Limbaugh said, leftism is easy. Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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You don't think Trump wanted/wants to control others and just look at his followers. They are the definition of controlled. They believe everything he says, most of which he makes up as he goes alon | |||
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Leatherneck |
Oh go fuck yourself with that. When Trump banned bump stocks there was plenty of his supporters who were vocal about the lunacy of that. Same with his mention of suppressors and when he seemingly gave support for red flag laws. In addition he had recently been boo’d on multiple occasions for supporting the vaccine. There have been multiple things Trump has said and done that draw criticism from his supporters. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
I'll give it to you simply, in crayon. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Sigforum K9 handler |
Well. I think this thread took a turn to highlight part of the problem. The false narrative that Trump supporters believe everything that Trump says, versus Trump believes the same things that many in this country already do. I blame the lack of ability to make this distinction on social media creating the impression that the majority of Americans hated Trump. They fail to understand that FB and Twitter aren’t real. But, they believe that the majority of Americans are left leaning. They believe that leftist policies work, despite massive amounts of evidence to the contrary. You simply can’t have logical discussions with people that aren’t logical. | |||
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GO fuck myself??? Am I not entitled to my opinion? And when I made that statement I wasn't just talking about firearms. You may love Trump and that's fine I may be completely wrong in my beliefs about him but at least I'm man enough to admit it. I don't have to resort to vulgar language just because someone doen't fell the same way I do. | |||
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I agree with you about the logical discussions | |||
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Nice artwork | |||
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Ammoholic |
Well, the old saying was that, “If you’re not a liberal under thirty, you don’t have a heart, and if you’re not a conservative after thirty, you don’t have a brain.” | |||
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crazy heart |
"...Why can seemingly intelligent adults differ so wildly on common points?..." Great question and one I have struggled with for a long time. There are so many issues that seem so basic, it's hard to imagine anyone arguing about them. Secure borders? Law and order? Pulling your own weight? If you want or need something, earn it? Personal responsibility? Love and appreciation of your country? Strong military to protect that country? Appreciation for the U.S. Constitution, as written? How Americans can argue these points, and many others, is beyond me. Is it ignorance? That might explain part of it. Education (or lack of it) doesn't seem to explain it. I've seen both argue these points from either position. | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
That's exactly the same reasoning the Army used on its troops when I was in and even before that. Japs, Nips, slopes, towel heads, krauts, gooks, etc. Dehumanize the enemy and they're no longer human so it won't bother you much to kill them. Do the same thing to conservatives and their points are no longer valid and they're no longer human either. | |||
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If you want to anger a Republican, tell a lie. If you want anger a Democrat, tell the truth. | |||
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blame canada |
His points are excellent. Calling it a religion certainly hits at the root of it. I've long held that foundations of beliefs, which a person's religion certainly is, coupled with the process in which a person views and responds to all things, are at their base completely broken with liberals. The causes can be many, but the end result is broken. Those who say that they are mentally ill, are not wrong. It really is a mental illness, but it is one that can be caught, can be trained, and the longer it is unchallenged and reinforced the more difficult it is to repair. For some, being removed from the ability to hurt others with their illness is the only solution. Like typhoid Mary, it may seem cruel to lock up a person for something they can't control, but when released Mary chose to run around and infect everyone again. It was ultimate selfishness, the core belief of a liberal is that they themselves are the most important entity. They often work very hard to give the impression of charity and care for others, but when you distill it down to their core beliefs of why they would do such things it always ends up being self-serving. As Peter Hitchens points out in this video, liberals will do terrible and evil things because they are serving a different purpose than they should. At the end of the day they feel justified because it serves their main purpose, which is themselves. Most liberals today are ruled by their immediate feelings, they've been trained without the ability to self-regulate their feelings and wants. Whatever feels good in the moment is the answer. Whatever seems to serve themselves in their head, is the solution. The real reason why you cannot have a debate with a liberal with any hope of changing their mind, is examples in Hitchens last minute of the video. The second they hear something that doesn't fit their personal narrative, they respond with emotion and are so controlled by it that they are unable to unlock any region of logic for calm debate. They use an emotional response, every time. We must learn that debate, logic, proofs, and other methods will never work. What persuades us, will NEVER persuade them. At this point, it is an Us vs. Them situation. The longer that people take to understand this, the more ground we'll lose, and the more difficult it will become to preserve not just our Republic, but the ability to exist in this world with our own beliefs, religions, and freedoms. The battle right now is absolutely the battle of good and evil. The sooner the lukewarm middle ground wake up and start fighting for keeps, the less painful this will be. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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blame canada |
Entitled? No. What public school indoctrinated bullshit have you swallowed? You certainly sound very, "entitled." Stop with your feelings. Just like getting butthurt over a common phrase, and the spewed nonsense you threw out that brought it. Pale Horse's response to your emotional ridiculousness was spot on. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Leatherneck |
I wasn’t talking about just firearms either. Maybe you missed the part about the vaccine. Yes I used a bad word. Don’t be so fragile and certainly don’t try and hide behind some holier-than-thou nonsense about you taking some high road when your post was clearly meant to be an insult of Trump and his supporters. And yeah, you can have an opinion but you being “entitled” to it doesn’t keep you free from criticism for it. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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I can always tell when someone is losing a debate...they start swearing and calling names because they have nothing intelligent to say | |||
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always with a hat or sunscreen |
A troll or just delusional? Either way..... And no, I won't waste my breath on debating you given this Mr. Forum Newcomer. Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
Ha ha ha ha ha - What fucking debate are you talking about? You just dropped a big old stinky turd in the middle of our living room. You’re new round here, huh … maybe listen and learn a little before pissing everyone off. Just my 0.02 pesos "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Actually , I don't think he's losing ... | |||
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