The arrogance and idiocy abounds.

Show me the statistics. How many offensive crimes, so to speak, have been committed in this state by concealed carry license holders in the last 5 years?

Why stop at 30 days. Why not make it permanent? Why stop at Bernalillo county? Why not the entire fucking state.

This dumb bitch and her cronies.

It wouldn't stop at 30 days, obviously.

Remember 2 weeks to slow the spread?

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
^^^First, you'd be well advised to reread the statement by the County Sheriff because that's NOT what he said, and second, the Executive Order stated that it would be enforced by the State Police.

The fact that the State Police are enforcing a law is meaningless if they have no jail. That is, if the Sheriff closes the jail to them.

He hasn’t said that, but he should, if he were concerned about protecting rights.

^^^THAT would be interesting to see!

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
It wouldn't stop at 30 days, obviously.

Of course it wouldn't. She's testing the waters. Trying to see just what she can get away with.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Remember 2 weeks to slow the spread?

As somebody who foolishly, in retrospect, fell for that: You damn bet I do

At the time it never occurred to me that even leftists would be so insane as to do what it turned out they were insane enough to do.

Now I'm all...

I like it, sometimes folks need a catalyst or two in order to come together and effectively initiate change.

I hope they keep this stupid shit up.

She wants to save Albuquerque, close her borders and eliminate all the meth.

New Mexico has a lot of residents living off of the government money, the majority will tolerate control.

Quote from link (link may have a pop-up);

If there is one statistic that highlights the difficulty Republicans face in gaining traction here in New Mexico, this might be it. With such an outsized proportion of the population receiving government handouts, who wants limited government?

End Quote.

https://errorsofenchantment.co...-its-not-even-close/

Queen Hotchibobo has spoken!

The Santa Fe New Mexican ran a story yesterday headlined, “Governor bans carrying guns in Albuquerque after 11-year-old killed.”

https://twitter.com/beauhighto.../1700288222734020921

Who cares if it’s unconstitutional? If it saves just one life.

On Thursday, New Mexico’s Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham declared gun violence to be a public health emergency. The next day, yesterday, on the strength of Thursday’s emergency order she signed another emergency public health order that, effective immediately, prohibits citizens from carrying firearms, either open or concealed, in Albuquerque and Bernalillo County for the next 30 days, regardless of whether they have a permit.

Open and concealed carry are (normally) legal in New Mexico. They have a lot of snakes, including the human kind.

Governor Grisham said she “will either amend or remove or adjust” the order after the 30-day ban period, depending on “circumstances.” Circumstances like how her emotions are feeling that day. “I realize, it is a pinch, and then some, on responsible gun owners,” Governor Grisham explained. “It’s a sacrifice that allows everyone else to get their arms around the growing, significant problem.”

Got that? A “sacrifice.” By responsible gun owners. For the greater good.

During the press conference, Governor Grisham explained she doesn’t think that constitutional rights are absolute, especially in emergencies. And she can make an emergency whenever she wants! All social problems are potentially emergencies! It’s great!

Grisham explained it doesn’t matter at all, that there are already laws on the books against illegal guns, don’t be silly, what nonsense, because there are too many criminals and everybody knows criminals don’t follow the laws"."

“I can’t arrest everyone . There are literally too many people to arrest! … We won’t be able to arrest all of them. If I’ve declared an emergency, I can invoke additional powers. No constitutional right, including my oath, is intended to be absolute… If I’m unsafe, who’s standing up for that right?

New Mexico Republicans were not amused. Many called her a “dictator” and other words that I can’t reproduce in this family blog. Senate Minority Leader Greg Baca (R-Belen) slammed Lujan Grisham’s order as “unconstitutional” in a statement from Senate Republicans, saying her “soft-on-crime approach has failed and put the safety of all New Mexicans in great jeopardy.”

Representative Baca has a point. The Governor just disarmed all the people who follow the law, and as she said, criminals don’t follow laws anyway. Maybe the hoodlums will go along with it since it’s a public health order.

This is just more rotten pandemic fruit. Governors who want to do unconstitutional things now think all they need to do is declare a public health emergency. It worked for covid, after all.

As I’ve said many times before, emergency executive authority is the worst, most anti-democratic idea ever, and we need to drown it in weed-killer everywhere it has sprouted up. The good news is, there are a lot of attorneys who now have plenty of practice challenging insane government overreach like this.

Stand by.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...ack&utm_medium=email

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Originally posted by oddball:
Notice how exactly alike both statements are, I mean, they're not getting a script from the Democrat Party, right? Nahhh.

It is possible that the idiot governor pissed off the party leaders for bringing far too much attention and controversy, instead of incremental gun control.

Its not the party they're getting their script from.
These donkeys are adherents to a handful of special interest trusts, principally those that promote an anti-gun agenda: Tides Foundation, Joyce Foundation, Brady Campaign, Everytown, Gates. These orgs produce or fund the doctored/slanted studies, their legislative proposals and all the talking points for politicians and public figures to use. Public statements like what Lieu and Hogg spit-out are very similar in statement and structure is not a mystery, the talking points and key words are produced for their PR staffs to use. If/when these figures reach an executive position, they'll dip into these organizations to occupy specific chairs. This is the 'deep state' that people refer to.

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Originally posted by corsair:

Its not the party they're getting their script from.

The memo of talking points and phrases my friend saw was directly from the DNC. And I don't think it was an isolated incident, I'm sure it is even standard practice now.

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Originally posted by oddball:

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Originally posted by corsair:

Its not the party they're getting their script from.

The memo of talking points and phrases my friend saw was directly from the DNC. And I don't think it was an isolated incident, I'm sure it is even standard practice now.

Yes, but where is the DNC getting them from is the better question. The globalists are trying to get the USA in line with the rest of the world. You can’t control the population when a large portion are heavily armed, patriotic, and tired of the bullshit.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
She's testing the waters. Trying to see just what she can get away with.

Not she, they. I am convinced that this is part of a bigger plan.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

During the press conference, Governor Grisham explained she doesn’t think that constitutional rights are absolute, especially in emergencies. And she can make an emergency whenever she wants! All social problems are potentially emergencies! It’s great!

So image whichever Republican becomes the next President and declares a "National Financial Emergency" and "temporary" ends all Welfare Payments.

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Originally posted by TomV:

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Originally posted by chellim1:

During the press conference, Governor Grisham explained she doesn’t think that constitutional rights are absolute, especially in emergencies. And she can make an emergency whenever she wants! All social problems are potentially emergencies! It’s great!

So image whichever Republican becomes the next President and declares a "National Financial Emergency" and "temporary" ends all Welfare Payments.

Wow ... you don't even hide it .

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"No constitutional right, including my oath, is intended to be absolute"

Really? She swore an oath to uphold the US Constitution, the NM Constitution, and the laws of New Mexico. It was required by the NM Constitution that she take that oath in order to become the Governor.

Since she has quite clearly stated she does not intend to honor her oath, it seems she should be easily removed from office.

As an aside, I do not buy into the claim that no right is absolute. The 5th Amendment provides for when and how a citizen may have a right rescinded but otherwise there is nothing in the Constitution which allows rights to be diminished or limited. Our Constitutional rights are as understood and as written at the time of enactment, until properly amended.

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Originally posted by bdylan:
I really don't see how we continue to coexist with these people. It's two different realities. A perpetual struggle to maintain our liberties isn't the pursuit of happiness.

It is not possible to coexist with your enemy.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

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Originally posted by bdylan:
I really don't see how we continue to coexist with these people. It's two different realities. A perpetual struggle to maintain our liberties isn't the pursuit of happiness.

It is not possible to coexist with your enemy.

I told my wife this exact thing yesterday. It can be debated how or when it happened, but we've passed a point where any kind of compromise can be reached with people who'd willingly deprive us of any an all rights. Look at what she says: "No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute." So, plainly stated, the limits of government can be laid aside at the whim of an elected official who has sworn to uphold them. So she can do whatever the fuck she wants once she takes power? Theses are the same people who want a constitutional right to sterilize whatever children they chose not to rend in chunks from their wombs. Not in my America.

Meanwhile in 2022 the US had 19,500 firearm related deaths, compared to 107,081 fentanyl deaths.
Grisham doesn't address the cartels or gangs and her open border. So let's go after law abiding citizens.

https://i.postimg.cc/0ymS4nWY/...-220353-Messages.jpg

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So let's have a conservative governor in another state unilaterally determine that pate term abortions are a public health matter and prohibit them for 30, 60 or 90 days.

I wonder if anyone on the left will complain about starting out of lanes.

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...with cities or counties averaging 1,000 or more violent crimes per 100,000 residents per year since 2021."

That's like saying you can't buy steak on days the Dow is down.