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I really don't see how we continue to coexist with these people. It's two different realities. A perpetual struggle to maintain our liberties isn't the pursuit of happiness.
 
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I really don't see how we continue to coexist with these people. It's two different realities. A perpetual struggle to maintain our liberties isn't the pursuit of happiness.


“The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.”
 
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I really don't see how we continue to coexist with these people. It's two different realities. A perpetual struggle to maintain our liberties isn't the pursuit of happiness.


“The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.”


The endless struggle of mankind.



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Good for the reporters for challenging her decision. You can hear her get mad for being challenged.

Notice how she admits that her executive action will not stop criminals. Short sided wentch.




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I really don't see how we continue to coexist with these people. It's two different realities.


With that kind of thinking, I've always been amazed they allow drug stores to stay open. I mean we have a drug problem, there's a store that sells drugs! Roll Eyes
 
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My wife drove through NM a few weeks ago helping a friend to move. I had them get well west of Albuquerque and got them a hotel in Gallup NM by a Home Depot and Wal-Mart so they'd have no problem parking the truck with SUV on a towed trailer.

Whelp, that wasn't any better...homeless encampment in the Home Depot parking lot and they got in late and had to run the gauntlet to check in to the hotel. Saw a bum OD'ing in a ditch, got acosted the next morning begging for food, etc.

Yeah, NM's problems are law-abiding citizens with a CC. /S
 
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The problem with things like this is that they will continue to happen no matter what the courts say. We are truly living in a post-constitutional society. The left simply does not care.

Wasn’t it Obama who said something to the effect of “So sue me”?

Blatantly disregarding the constitution has become the newest tactic of the communists. Fifty years ago, when some democrats actually believed in the constitution, if they knew something to be unconstitutional they just wouldn’t do it. Now? They knowingly do things that are illegal and will be found illegal by the courts but they do it anyway.

It’s not just for “street cred” with other communists, it’s to devalue the rule of law so they can make their illegal actions seem more mainstream.

The Biden regime loves this tactic. Rent moratorium? So sue me. Blatantly illegal but they did it anyway. Student loan forgiveness? So sue me. Blatantly illegal but they did it anyway. (Matter of fact they basically told the courts to fuck off as they are still doing it).

Friday the Fifth Circuit found that the US Gov violated Americans first amendment rights by leaning on tech for censorship. Conservatives rejoice! We told you it was illegal! Woo-Hoo! We Won!

Nice win, but it doesn’t matter. No one will be held accountable. The Biden regime will continue to lean on tech companies, and they will continue to comply.

I’m not a NM resident but if I was I’d be calling my state gun rights org and asking when we hold a rally with our legally carried firearms. I’m a NC resident and if Commie Cooper did this I’d be strapping on my best BBQ gun and walking through downtown Raleigh begging some fascist to arrest me. Hopefully there are still some officers in Raleigh that wouldn’t enforce a clearly illegal, by both NC statute and the US constitution, order. It will be expensive, but I’d be willing to bet the SAF of FPC will front my lawyer.

If covid taught us anything, it taught us to NOT COMPLY.

Taking this dumb bitch to court won’t do anything. She expects to lose. But she did it anyway. The court will write a strongly worded letter and she will just do it again. Except maybe next time it won’t be the second amendment she suspends.

Accountability is the ONLY thing that will stop this unconstitutional slide we are currently on. Whatever judge rules this stunt illegal needs to hold the governor in contempt and put her in county jail. One day in jail for every day this edict was in effect. Unfortunately holding elected officials accountable “at the ballot box” does not work anymore. Not when 50 percent of the country agrees with them. The courts need to step in with real punishments.

It may not stop this sort of thing in the future, but it will make them think.
 
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A 2a rally today at noon, in Old Town albuquerque. I'm not sure who's organized it.

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MBinky has it. If the government at any level can ignore the constitution, laws, and liberties AND they won't be held accountable with significant consequences, what's left? The average citizen learns more and more that's how it works now.

So, what's next?
 
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Every Democrat politician is watching with interest.

Yep, this piece of shit, New Mexico commie is using the "public health order" as a means to bypass the legislature, in passing her own draconian laws, and then basically taunting her citizens "go ahead, try and stop me". Democrats across the country are already attempting to classify guns as a health issue, not just a crime issue. Covid was the big test in egregiously suspending constitutional rights and illegally corrupting the election process, so now they are extending this strategy.



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Have any Police Chiefs or Sheriff’s commented on whether they will enforce it?






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
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MBinky has it. If the government at any level can ignore the constitution, laws, and liberties AND they won't be held accountable with significant consequences, what's left? The average citizen learns more and more that's how it works now.

So, what's next?


^^^^^^^^^^^ What's next? Venezuela. North Korea. Cuba. That's not hyperbole. That is what happens when our government behaves like third world governments. What makes a third world cesspool? Corruption and stratified justice. Period. Everything else that happens to the population are consequences. All one needs to do is study what has happened to citizens of once free nations immediately after their government turns. Then study the spiral into desperation there after. We are no different than any other humans by nature. If/when our government turns, we will slide right into the pattern. So, what's next? If we can't stop it, and it's not looking good, the population will suffer.

The element that gives me concern is that of unaccountability. No one pays in lost assets and/or lost liberty for breaking the oath of office, running afoul of the constitution and bill of rights, corrupting bureaucracies with political bias, corrupting justice, selling influence and favorable acts, etc. We sometimes see a fiery tongue lashing answered by deceptive sophistry and confounded politicians with their hands tied by decorum and tradition. But that yields more of the same and corrects nothing. The scoundrels escape on golden parachutes. Elections have been corrupted and manipulated so there's little accountability there. So the citizen has one chance to be heard and that is teetering.

I love my country. I am a patriot to the constitution and bill of rights. I have great hope that divinity will step in and make the correction because man appears to be too compromised.



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Have any Police Chiefs or Sheriff’s commented on whether they will enforce it?

Yes. Read earlier this morning that one Sheriff will not enforce that unconstitutional order.

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Today, Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham issued an emergency order temporarily suspending open and concealed carry laws in Albuquerque and throughout Bernalillo County for the next 30 days. This move has been positioned as a response to the alarming and tragic rise in gun violence, particularly the heart-wrenching death of an 11-year-old boy this past week.

First and foremost, every lost life is a tragedy, and the well-being of our community is of paramount concern to the Bernalillo County Sheriff’s Office. We share in the collective grief and urgency to address this issue.

However, as the elected Sheriff, I have reservations regarding this order. While I understand and appreciate the urgency, the temporary ban challenges the foundation of our Constitution, which I swore an oath to uphold. I am wary of placing my deputies in positions that could lead to civil liability conflicts, as well as the potential risks posed by prohibiting law-abiding citizens from their constitutional right to self-defense.

I was elected to represent and safeguard all constituents and to ensure the balance between our rights and public safety is maintained. That means we must critically evaluate any proposed solution to the deeply rooted issue of gun violence, ensuring we both protect our community and uphold the values that define us as a nation.

To proactively address gun violence, the Bernalillo County Sheriff’s Office has implemented and is currently executing several initiatives:
1. ERPO (Extreme Risk Protection Orders) – Identifying and addressing threats before they escalate.
2. Behavioral Health Unit – Addressing underlying mental health issues that often intersect with violent incidents.
3. Youth and Gun Violence Initiative – Focused programs to curb youth involvement in gun-related crimes.
4. Felon Firearm Possession Intervention – Targeting felons illegally in possession of firearms.
5. Crime Commission Initiative – Zeroing in on cases where firearms are used in the commission of crimes.
6. Interagency Collaboration – Partnering with State, Local, and Federal entities to create a unified front against gun violence.
7. Creation of a Violence Intervention Program – Intervening in gun violence before crimes happen through intel and inter-agency collaboration.

In conclusion, while we might not be in complete alignment with the Governor’s recent order, we remain steadfast in our commitment to work collaboratively, both with her office and with the community, to find sustainable solutions to the gun violence epidemic plaguing our county. It is through robust dialogues, open-mindedness, and the shared goal of a safer Bernalillo County that we will find our way forward.

Thank you for your understanding and continued support.
Sheriff John Allen Bernalillo County Sheriff’s Office


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My wife drove through NM a few weeks ago helping a friend to move. I had them get well west of Albuquerque and got them a hotel in Gallup NM by a Home Depot and Wal-Mart so they'd have no problem parking the truck with SUV on a towed trailer.

Whelp, that wasn't any better...homeless encampment in the Home Depot parking lot and they got in late and had to run the gauntlet to check in to the hotel. Saw a bum OD'ing in a ditch, got acosted the next morning begging for food, etc.

Yeah, NM's problems are law-abiding citizens with a CC. /S


When I lived out there from the late 70’s through the late 80’s it was a thing to steal U-Haul trucks from hotel and motel parking lots and go “shopping” from them. Take what they want, destroy the rest. Sometimes the trucks would be found out in the bosque areas along the Rio Grande and the contents used to furnish the homeless camps there.

I moved cross country a couple of times and my parents once, each time someone slept in the cab of the U-Haul as a precaution.


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“I can invoke additional powers," Lujan Grisham said. "No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute."

So doesn't that mean her powers are not absolute either?
 
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re: Statement from Sheriff John Allen -

I don't see where he says that he will not enforce it.

"I have reservations regarding this order."

"I am wary (of being sued)..."

"...we might not be in complete alignment with the Governor's recent order, ..."

"Gun violence"

Nothing but wishy-washy leftist political words never once stating clearly that he will not enforce the order.

In other words, he's in favor of it but doesn't want the legal shit-storm and is trying to cover his ass.


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Her rationale is a shocking interpretation of what emergency powers mean. With her line 9r thinking, she could suspend 4th and 5th A rights, housing soldiers in citizens homes or disallowing protest.

The problem is that she has, like all governor's, emergency powers and as we saw during COVID, they were abused but the real danger is from her self annointed interpretation that she is empowered to suspend the constitution by fiat. If she does and isn't challenged, other governor's will do it too.

Chicago is a prime example, LA too.
 
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When she asks "What about the parents rights"? We're equal under the law and 1 persons rights don't negate another persons rights.

A famous quote which seems hard to attribute:

"My right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins."


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I don't see where he says that he will not enforce it.

"I have reservations regarding this order."

"I am wary (of being sued)..."

"...we might not be in complete alignment with the Governor's recent order, ..."

"Gun violence"

Nothing but wishy-washy leftist political words never once stating clearly that he will not enforce the order.

In other words, he's in favor of it, but doesn't want the legal shit-storm and is trying to cover his ass.


His statement is moot anyways because the commie governor has stated that enforcement is up to state police only, not APD or county sheriffs. And after 30 days she alone will evaluate whether the policy is stopped, continued or amended.

And this bitch's statement on law-abiding gun owners- “I realize, it is a pinch, and then some, on responsible gun owners,” Lujan Grisham said Friday. “It’s a sacrifice that allows everyone else to get their arms around the growing, significant problem.”

Fuck you.



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