Not sure if this has been posted.

Blm has filed a lawsuit because the price of riot gear is to high for them.

How crazy is this.

https://www.seattletimes.com/s...e-clothing-too-high/

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Originally posted by HRK:
happens so quick is that video showing that the rioter in the black shirt had a gun and fired it into the back of headshot guy? Hard to tell

The guy in black is press - he is the one that moments later took off his shirt and started rendering aid.

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Originally posted by Greymann:
Not sure if this has been posted.

Blm has filed a lawsuit because the price of riot gear is to high for them.

How crazy is this.

https://www.seattletimes.com/s...e-clothing-too-high/

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So what they can't steal by force, they have a right to buy at a reduced price?

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Originally posted by Greymann:
Not sure if this has been posted.

Blm has filed a lawsuit because the price of riot gear is to high for them.

How crazy is this.

https://www.seattletimes.com/s...e-clothing-too-high/

"The five plaintiffs in the lawsuit allege that the purchase of helmets, gas masks, protective clothing, goggles, gloves, boots, umbrellas and other gear they say are needed to fend off police pepper spray, less-lethal projectiles and other crowd-dispersal tools has impinged on their civil right to peacefully protest."

If they "peacefully protest", why would they need protective gear? [rhetorical question]

Maybe if they got real jobs, they could afford to buy the gear. But then they would have no time to burn, loot and murder.

About a week ago I heard a talking head mention that Martin Luther King never led a march at night. Is this true?

quote:

Originally posted by Greymann:
Not sure if this has been posted.

Blm has filed a lawsuit because the price of riot gear is to high for them.

How crazy is this.

https://www.seattletimes.com/s...e-clothing-too-high/

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And yet, the Progressive power’s that be have no problem charging exorbitant fees for law abiding citizens to purchase permits for permission to buy firearms, to purchase ammo, to get a license to carry a firearm, to get a license to have a firearm in their homes, to want firearm owners pay an ownership tax on every firearm that they own (and to be paid every five years) and to make demands that firearm owner’s must purchase some sort of very expensive insurance rider for firearm liability.

Oh the irony!

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Originally posted by BJEC1248:
the guy shot and wounded by Rittenhouse admits he pointed handgun at him and says he wishes he had killed him:

https://www.theblaze.com/news/...sha-shooting-regrets

So why the hell is he not charged with assault by a firearm or the comparable charge in that state?

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Originally posted by cyanide357:
The guy in black is press - he is the one that moments later took off his shirt and started rendering aid.

Yes. And reading the limited autopsy report posted above confirmed that the first guy who was killed didn’t have a significant head wound. The head wound was a superficial graze. (It was identified in the report as a gunshot wound, but from what was visible in the video, I’m not sure how the gunshot part was determined.) So he wasn’t shot in the back of the head.


In the videos of his chasing the child (17 yo) with the AR immediately before that shooting, the shootee has his red t-shirt bunched up around his neck. Just as he does in the pictures of him lying on the ground after being shot, his torso was bare during that part of the chase.

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Originally posted by tleo205:
So why the hell is he not charged with assault by a firearm or the comparable charge in that state?

As mentioned above, one possible explanation is that whenever possible the police often don’t arrest and charge someone while he is being treated in a hospital. Doing that might make the LE agency responsible for his medical bills and for providing security for him. Such individuals are commonly charged only after they are released from the hospital.

Or the DA and/or police may believe that arrest and charging is not appropriate, at least not now. That would be a question for them.

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Originally posted by tleo205:
So why the hell is he not charged with assault by a firearm or the comparable charge in that state?

Someone's likely to go to trial, and at this point it seems likeliest to be Rittenhouse. Any facts established there can be applied to any other trials related to this mess that may happen. Trying to try both Rittenhouse and Glock Boy at the same time can only complicate both trials in ways that make it easy for the wrong person to walk and that wind up costing more time and money.

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As mentioned above, one possible explanation is that whenever possible the police often don’t arrest and charge someone while he is being treated in a hospital. Doing that might make the LE agency responsible for his medical bills and for providing security for him. Such individuals are commonly charged only after they are released from the hospital.

I guess maybe my question was a bit rhetorical really.
That is a consideration but in my own experience from almost 40 years, he can be charged and given bail immediately so the agency would not have to guard or be responsible for any bills. I suspect that given that D.A.s history, it's more likely he is not likely to face anything at all.

some more notes from the criminal complaint against Kyle Rittenhouse

Count 1 First Degree Reckless Homicide causing the death of Joseph Rosenbaum

Count 2 First Degree Recklessly Endangering the safety of Richard McGinnis

Count 3 First Degree of Intentional Homicide causing the death of Anthony Huber

Count 4 Attempt First Degree Intentional Homicide. Attempted to cause death of Gaige Grosskreutz

Count 5 First Degree of Recklessly Endangering safety of an unknown male

Count 6 Possession of a Dangerous Weapon by a Person under 18

Also from the complaint:

The rifle was a S&W AR-15 style .223 with a 30 round magazine

Rosenbaum was shot in close proximity to Kyle
Rosenbaum and others chase Kyle. Kyle tried to evade them.

Rosenbaum tried to get Kyle's rifle. Rosenbaum tried to grab the barrel and was leaning in when he was shot.

Then several people chased Kyle down a road.

Kyle trips and falls down.

An unidentified male jumps at and over Kyle.

the unidentified male clearly kicks Kyle

It appears Kyle fires two quick shots at the unidentified male

Huber appears to be pulling the rifle from Kyle while the rifle is aimed at Huber's body. Kyle fires one round. Huber collapses.

Kyle sits up and points the rifle at Grosskreutz.
Grosskreutz puts his hands up in the air. Grosskreutz moves towards Kyle who shoots him, firing 1 shot.

Grosskreutz appears to be holding a handgun in his right hand when he is shot

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everything above from the complaint except the italics . Kyle is referred to as the "defendant"

Have they obtained an indictment against Rittenhouse yet. While a grand jury is usually putty in a DA's hands, given the circumstances their really may not be probable cause here.

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Grosskreutz puts his hands up in the air. Grosskreutz moves towards Kyle who shoots him, firing 1 shot.

How many times have we seeing this? Feign surrender so you drop your guard then attack. Didn't work this time.

just my opinion, but as Grosskreutz comes running in, two things happen together.

1 Huber is shot
2 the skateboard flies towards Grosskteutz's head and might have struck him

that combination seems to have triggered his hands going up

contrary to the complaint, Kyle did not aim at Grosskreutz until Grosskreutz's pistol is aimed at Kyle (my view of the video)


note that both Rosenbaum and Huber attacked Kyle and tried to grab the gun barrel.

Grosskreutz got shot only when his pistol was aimed at Kyle

From the time the big guy kicked Kyle to when Grosskreutz was shot was 6 seconds.

Look at the counts in the complaint

Counts 1, 3, 4, and 5 were triggered by the "victim" either (a) attacking or (b) threatening with w weapon
All of these "victims" were the aggressor until the moment they were shot

Count 2 The "victim" voluntarily followed an armed person being chased by a mob in the middle of gunshots, a multiday riot, and burning buildings. But Kyle "recklessly endangered" him ?

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Originally posted by 18DAI:
And yet Grosskreutz is not charged. Are they waiting for him to be discharged from the hospital? Regards 18DAI

Slight tin foil hat here but I surmise that there's a GFM for him that continues to receive donations. The TOS with GFM is that you can't receive money if you're charged with a crime (this is why the shooter can't get GFM for his defense costs) so any charges by the DA will come, if at all, once he's flush with cash to cover bills and living expenses.

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the skateboard flies towards Grosskteutz's head and might have struck him

Strange wording. It didn't get there all by itself.

I wonder if Huber, by grabbing the barrel, jerked the rifle forward, causing Rittenhouse’s finger to press the trigger, resulting in it discharging a bullet into Huber’s torso.

In short, although Rittenhouse held the rifle, it was Huber’s actions that caused it to fire.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
In short, although Rittenhouse held the rifle, it was Huber’s actions that caused it to fire.

Alright, if we're going to get into wild speculation, trying to make things fit, I'm going to ask you guys to move on from this aspect of the discussion.

You have ZERO proof of any such thing. Why behave as if these shootings require more justification than is already apparent? Cool it.

Stick to the facts or I'll make adjustments in this thread.

46and2,
not trying to be cryptic

from the video, Huber's right arm swings the skateboard in the general direction towards Grosskreutz's head just as Huber is shot

watch Grosskreutz's hands go up in response

I don't need to analyze it in detail. I've seen enough to know that this young man was justified in defending himself with deadly force.