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The complaint against Mr. Rittenhouse says the skateboard “makes contact” with his shoulder, which is true. But only of course, because the shootee was trying to hit him in the head with it. It’s not as if the man was innocently riding the board down the street when it took a bad hop and ended up on the “defendant’s” shoulder totally by accident.

Unlike back in the old days of good policing and “hickory shampoos” that some people pine for, law enforcement officers today are cautioned that striking someone on the head or neck with even a baton is considered deadly force and must be justified as such. Is a skateboard wielded like a club a deadly weapon? By any reasonable standard, yes.




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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what all the breathless little Anqueefa would-be-lawyers-someday oh so conveniently overlook: the question is always how a reasonable person would see what happened, and what a reasonable person in Kyle's position would have done.
 
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"The Portland city government has the ability to stop this. Instead, the city govt has abetted the violence thru action and inaction"
 
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we win a few

video at link

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/...ull-see-today-watch/

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WSJ

https://www.wsj.com/articles/k...in-court-11598624032

Kyle Rittenhouse Faces New Charges in Kenosha Shooting

The Kenosha County District Attorney on Thursday laid out six counts against Kyle Rittenhouse in the deaths of Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, the attempted killing of Gaige Grosskreutz and the reckless endangerment of reporter Richard McGinnis, after Mr. Rittenhouse was initially arrested and charged with homicide on Wednesday.

The new charges against Mr. Rittenhouse include first-degree reckless homicide, first-degree recklessly endangering safety, first-degree intentional homicide and possession of a dangerous weapon. When he was first arrested Wednesday in his hometown of Antioch, Ill., the teenager was charged with first-degree homicide.

Mr. Rittenhouse was due to appear in court early Friday for a hearing that would have determined whether he can be extradited to Wisconsin, where he could be charged as an adult. But a public defender appearing on his behalf requested a delay while his family seeks the help of a private attorney . The teen’s extradition hearing is now scheduled for Sept. 25.

If tried as an adult and convicted, Mr. Rittenhouse could face life in prison.


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Ron Paul and wife nearly assaulted after leaving GOP convention...

https://www.theblaze.com/news/...rous-mob-out-of-town

Calls for FBI investigation.ABOUT TIME - find out where the money originates and put them away!


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Now I see how he got the entry wound on his back






Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed.
Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists.
Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed.
 
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happens so quick is that video showing that the rioter in the black shirt had a gun and fired it into the back of headshot guy? Hard to tell
 
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The one trailing the the two in question? He's the reporter who gave the statement to the police.

He was interviewing Kyle when the bad guy approached.





Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed.
Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists.
Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed.
 
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happens so quick is that video showing that the rioter in the black shirt had a gun and fired it into the back of headshot guy? Hard to tell


The 3rd guy in the back in the black shirt is McGinnis, reporter from deadspin. He is recording as he runs. He was interviewing Kyle when the bald dude who got shot stalked Kyle, lunged at him and then started chasing him. McGinnis pursued and recorded. I have not seen McGinnis' video released anywhere.


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I believe he is a reporter for The Daily Caller, not deadspin.
 
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happens so quick is that video showing that the rioter in the black shirt had a gun and fired it into the back of headshot guy? Hard to tell
Just for the record, the preliminary charging documents posted back on page 103 stated that "headshot guy" probably wasn't actually put down by a shot to the head.



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I believe he is a reporter for The Daily Caller, not deadspin.


My bad, I was going from memory and probably got that detail wrong.


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Good article from The Blaze on the ridiculousness of the charges against Kyle.

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I know it's NONE of my business, but it's starting to become clear that people are skipping pages when reading this thread, as there seems to be a lot of duplicated information.

Like I said, NONE of my business. Razz


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Thank you. I noticed that as well.
 
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happens so quick is that video showing that the rioter in the black shirt had a gun and fired it into the back of headshot guy? Hard to tell
Just for the record, the preliminary charging documents posted back on page 103 stated that "headshot guy" probably wasn't actually put down by a shot to the head.



Yeah, he was labeled as such about 30 pages back and it stuck. Did you read all of the pages Wink Big Grin


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also remember that this thread has two pieces - the riots are only one

the other is the coup that was plotted against the President and those that participated
 
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My bad, it was one page back.

Here is something I found that I havent seen posted here yet.

Here’s the statement from one of the militia guys who you’ve seen in clips

https://m.facebook.com/story.p...6&id=100000861294959
From Ryan Thomas Balch facebook post
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This is my Official Statement regarding actions that took place on 8/25/2020-8/26/2030 in Kenosha Wisconsin.
I’m gonna start with a list of terms and their definition.
BLM- a member of or the peaceful protesting contingent.
Antifa- a member of or a group of far left militants that partake in direct action.
Agitator- a person or persons who are not affiliated with any defined group. There for the specific purpose of causing destruction and mayhem.
Militia- armed private citizens acting as a member of a nonuniformed force.
MTH- Militia Held Territory
NML- No Man’s Land
PHT- Police Held Territory

Yesterday at 6pm i joined a contingent of militia along with two unaligned observers headed to Kenosha Wisconsin to protect citizens, their property and their livelihoods.
After infiltrating in Kenosha we found a group of militia made up mostly of males in their early 20’s and late teens. Realizing that they were undermanned and had no leadership on ground at all. We joined them and I inserted myself into a tactical advisement role. The owners then deputized us to protect his properties. We then were joined by another group of bikers carrying hatchets, ball bats and firearms.
After sorting it out we left them at the southern location. As that was the least likely place for them to meet protesters.(where the first shooting and subsequent exchanges of fire came from.) we then moved to the north location 2 city blocks to the north. Where we took up defensive positions and placed men on the roof. We were on the demarcation line for MHT and NML. Protesters coming south on Sheridan would encounter us before anyone else thus giving us the ability to set the tone for the interactions between BLM, Antifa and Agitators with Militia.

For the first couple of hours things were mostly uneventful aside from Agitators trying to break into and burn down a restaurant. We crossed into NML to stop this and aided by BLM we were able stop that. The same agitators around 30-45 minutes later probed our northern boundary. And we shooed them off by being verbally aggressive. As the night dragged on we made frequent trips to the southern location eventually we found that it had been abandoned by the bikers. So I gave the hospital security my phone number. And they agreed to inform me if something happened there.

When I returned from that trip we were joined by another friend of mine a Marine Veteran and maintained our perimeter.
For the next hour or so. Around this time is when a KPD Officer approached us and this is where they told us that they were going to be pushing the protesters towards us because we could deal with them. We never agreed to this and (as has been cleanly cut out of every video of me explaining this) thusly switched to a protect the public stance. including BLM, Antifa and the public at large.

KPD made a conscious decision to abandon the people of Kenosha to people they felt justified in using machines and weapons of war against. And were going to piss them off and drive them at us and let the chips fall where they may. We on the other hand had other plans. We quickly setup an aid station in the building we were protecting. Kyle did most of that. We started leaving MHT and going into NML to retrieve wounded BLM and Antifa members providing them with first aid and helping them get to the hospital. We escorted groups of BLM past KPD Snatch and Grab teams. All the while letting everyone know that we were there for them. To protect, to aid and to offer a bit of comfort.

All the while having tense exchanges with agitators who were dead set on destroying the town and causing serious bodily harm to innocents. Notable of which was the bald guy in the red shirt. If you were between him and something he could destroy he’d threaten you, he’d verbally assault you, he’d bluff charge you with something in his hand. He was in fact not being very cash money.
Agitators attacked us with homemade chemical weapons and with things taken off off police. We never once responded with violence lethal or otherwise.

The protesters went back and forth with KPD several times KPD up and down Sheridan. When KPD saw we were running an aid station they gassed us. So bad that I required medical care. As Kyle escorted me into the aid station they tossed us water and mockingly said they appreciated what we were doing.

After that they’d pushed the protesters pass the intersection with the gas station. Kyle my Marine friend and myself walked passed the police and started looking for injuries to treat. I got accosted by an agitator and got separated from them during this.

Unable to locate them I started back to the north building and got stopped by the cops. That’s when the shooting started. Upon hearing the shots I ran towards the gunfire moving to cover. To my left I spotted my friend rendering aid to the guy shot in the arm. I ran over made sure he had it and ran to the guy who was shot in the chest. He had unfortunately already passed. I helped load his body and effects into the MRAP when shooting erupted again. To the south so I ran south to the southern location upon arrival the area was being shot up from a building to the west. I also had picked up a cameraman and two armed Antifa on the way there upon seeing armed individuals the shooting stopped. Until the police surrounded the building.
It was a chaotic situation and no one knew how many shooters there were or why. But aside from a few individuals the different factions on the ground came together to at least try to handle the situation. Im under the impression that there were two. But only one actually shot anyone.

At this point things settled down we gave a couple of statements to freelance media. Had a great conversation with BLM about the police creating the situation and then we left.

In closing
Last nights situation was a terrible event. One that’s being twisted to further divide the people. I’ve seen my own words and actions being twisted so much that they don’t reflect reality. 20 seconds of several minute long conversations being put forth as gospel.
I put this together to get my version of the night out there. To clear the air. It is my belief that we only faced one monster out there that night. The Government. it sought to agitate, and create a situation where this would happen. I’m seeing people refer to this as the start of some “civil war” in certain communities. I don’t know about that but it’s even clearer to me after the fact that we need to unite under a common cause and stop letting them trick us into killing one another and destroying one another’s lives.
Together we’re far stronger than we are divided.



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Now I see how he got the entry wound on his back


Looks to me like the pelvis shot essentially folded him in half and he fell forward as Kyle was shooting. Man I bet that hurt! One of those last shots could have been "in the back" since the angry ginger was facing downward at the very end as he tumbled and Kyle was still standing up and above him to a degree.


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