Does it actually matter whether skateboard boy tried to kill Kyle? I'm not in a hurry to second guess someone who had a skateboard swung at their head. More importantly (to me), if you get dazed, distracted or knocked unconscious when you're already on the ground and a mob is bearing down on you, then I'm convinced you have every reason to think you're a dead man if you don't fire - and never mind what that other guy was doing with his Glock in the meantime.

(olfuzzy, that last bit isn't me trying to take a shot at what you said - I saw the guy advance on Kyle, and yeah, if that Glock wasn't pointed at Kyle then it's all too easy to see that that's because the guy was turning away from the shot he saw coming. IOW, I agree with you.)

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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Probably 25% of the mob harassing RNC attendees in DC were teachers.

^^^^^^^^^
I would like to see the proof. LINK???

No, no link, no proof Just my opinion.
https://blogs.edweek.org/teach...from_a_distance.html

Slight thread drift. George Floyd died on May 25th, approximately 274 people have been killed in Chicago. Seventy eight percent are black (214), 90% are male (192). Jackass.com is my source and numbers are approximate.

192 black males have been killed in Chicago in the past 100 days. Crickets from the NBA and peaceful protesters.

@Il Cattivo

I don't think it matters what skateboard boy's intentions were. I believe with the totality of the circumstances and if Kyle perceived that he was being attacked with a skateboard then a reasonable jury would agree that he was justified in pulling that trigger.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Does it actually matter whether skateboard boy tried to kill Kyle? I'm not in a hurry to second guess someone who had a skateboard swung at their head. More importantly (to me), if you get dazed, distracted or knocked unconscious when you're already on the ground and a mob is bearing down on you, then I'm convinced you have every reason to think you're a dead man if you don't fire

Indeed. My point, my incorrect terminology aside, is that a skateboard is as deadly a weapon as a sledgehammer or something similar, more than a simple stick or board, it's weighted, and 5+lbs...

A machete, a baseball bat, a sledgehammer, or a skateboard, when swung at your head while on the ground, there are few to no appreciable differences... That skateboard could have sharpened wood edges from normal use, those trucks could be jagged and rough as hell - from normal use, from deep cuts to simple abrasions to blunt force trauma, that 5lb skateboard is an unconventional but capable weapon.

Further, I've never met a skateboarder who didn't know exactly how it could be used as a weapon, because it's a part of skate culture, as they're usually the ones being harrassed for being outsiders or the like, and it's something kids discuss and joke about and occasionally have to actually use.

And who (no one) swings a weapon like that at someone else's head who isn't trying to kill them, and in lay terms, to me, if someone trys to kill you unjustifiably then it's effectively "attempted murder" in the moment and I think one should respond thusly. No rational person thinks a sledgehammer to the head isn't to kill.

I've never seen a skateboard used offensively like this. It's very much the exception.

don't view the individual actions in isolation

Kyle was being chased down the street by multiple people

someone ran up behind him and hit him in the head (knocked his hat off)

another person ran up behind him (and I think) pushed him and that caused him to stumble and fall

A very large man came flying in and kicked him in the head

Instantly after that skateboard guy tried to grab the rifle. How much of a blow w the skateboard is debatable (from the video it is not much of an attack w the skateboard, the main thing is that skateboard guy grabs the rifle barrel and tries to pull it away)

Again, almost immediately after that Kyle sees a handgun pointing at him and shoots the guy in the arm

All of that happened in about 15 seconds

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I've never seen one used offensively like this. It's very much the exception.

Earlier this month.



One from June...



Earlier this year in Las Vegas.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/...n-las-vegas-1965199/

Last year in Santa Cruz.

https://patch.com/california/s...ns-arrest-police-say

Apparently becoming more ubiquitous.

If anyone knows about winning defamation cases it's Lin Wood.

more BS. this from Wisconsin Lt Gov Mandela Barnes

video at

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...-in-kenosha-n2575234

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Originally posted by mbinky:
In the article on Fox Sen. Paul calls for an FBI investigation into who is funding their travel to riot.

I was just thinking the same thing. Wouldn't it be great if we had some sort of federal agency who had the responsibility of being the domestic intelligence and security service of the United States?

Oh wait what's this?

https://www.fbi.gov/about


I thought the FBI whiz kids had all sorts of sophisticated tools to track the financials of criminal organizations.

The BLM/Antifa riot is a well funded multi-million dollar undertaking that has been ongoing for 3+ months now. That sort of funding presents many opportunities to track it's source. And yet nothing but crickets from the FBI. It's all a great big mystery how this has persisted.

Top. Men.

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Originally posted by mbinky:
If anyone knows about winning defamation cases it's Lin Wood.

Well that right there is some really interesting info I was unaware of. And to everyone, please dear god just ignore everything falling our of Kamala Harris' pie hole. The woman is beneath contempt before she even opens her mouth and stupid falls out.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Has ANYONE said that if Jacob Blake followed the orders of the police, (like one is supposed to do...) that he would be alive today, and NONE OF THIS SHIT WOULD HAVE EVER HAPPENED?

Jacob Blake is still alive - he is currently in the hospital. BLM folk are of course upset that he is handcuffed to his hospital bed.

You're absolutely right-
I forgot.
I'll change my original statement to "he would be able to walk today..."

And once again Sheriff Grady Judd sends a warning to the filth who think they own the streets right now. God I love this man.

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Originally posted by Brett B:

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Originally posted by mbinky:
In the article on Fox Sen. Paul calls for an FBI investigation into who is funding their travel to riot.

I was just thinking the same thing. Wouldn't it be great if we had some sort of federal agency who had the responsibility of being the domestic intelligence and security service of the United States?

Oh wait what's this?

https://www.fbi.gov/about


I thought the FBI whiz kids had all sorts of sophisticated tools to track the financials of criminal organizations.

The BLM/Antifa riot is a well funded multi-million dollar undertaking that has been ongoing for 3+ months now. That sort of funding presents many opportunities to track it's source. And yet nothing but crickets from the FBI. It's all a great big mystery how this has persisted.

Top. Men.

Here's the "Oath of Office" for the fbi-

"I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic ; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."


A lot of "Oaths" say the same thing.
DOMESTIC

If these blm / antifa fucks don't fit that bill, I don't know what does.

Take a look at any accepted definition of the word "Terrorist".
Same thing.

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Originally posted by Brett B:

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Originally posted by mbinky:
In the article on Fox Sen. Paul calls for an FBI investigation into who is funding their travel to riot.

I was just thinking the same thing. Wouldn't it be great if we had some sort of federal agency who had the responsibility of being the domestic intelligence and security service of the United States?

Oh wait what's this?

https://www.fbi.gov/about


I thought the FBI whiz kids had all sorts of sophisticated tools to track the financials of criminal organizations.

The BLM/Antifa riot is a well funded multi-million dollar undertaking that has been ongoing for 3+ months now. That sort of funding presents many opportunities to track it's source. And yet nothing but crickets from the FBI. It's all a great big mystery how this has persisted.

Top. Men.

Management in the upper levels of the FBI got there over the eight years of working in the Obama Administration by pledging fealty to the Democratic Party. You think their loyalties have changed? Hardly. The "working class" members of any law enforcement organization are very different from those "groomed" as future managers. A clean sweep is needed and law enforcement professionals that consider loyalty to the public at large are what's needed to change the organization's political culture.

WSJ

https://www.wsj.com/articles/k...in-court-11598624032

Kyle Rittenhouse Faces New Charges in Kenosha Shooting

The Kenosha County District Attorney on Thursday laid out six counts against Kyle Rittenhouse in the deaths of Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber, the attempted killing of Gaige Grosskreutz and the reckless endangerment of reporter Richard McGinnis, after Mr. Rittenhouse was initially arrested and charged with homicide on Wednesday.

The new charges against Mr. Rittenhouse include first-degree reckless homicide, first-degree recklessly endangering safety, first-degree intentional homicide and possession of a dangerous weapon. When he was first arrested Wednesday in his hometown of Antioch, Ill., the teenager was charged with first-degree homicide.

Mr. Rittenhouse was due to appear in court early Friday for a hearing that would have determined whether he can be extradited to Wisconsin, where he could be charged as an adult. But a public defender appearing on his behalf requested a delay while his family seeks the help of a private attorney . The teen’s extradition hearing is now scheduled for Sept. 25.

If tried as an adult and convicted, Mr. Rittenhouse could face life in prison.

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Originally posted by Brett B:
The BLM/Antifa riot is a well funded multi-million dollar undertaking that has been ongoing for 3+ months now. That sort of funding presents many opportunities to track it's source. And yet nothing but crickets from the FBI. It's all a great big mystery how this has persisted.

Top. Men.

No real effort to track the sources. Amazon gave 10 million dollars to BLM last month. Other donors include Nabisco, Microsoft, Apple, Gatorade, etc. BLM has a multi-million/billion dollar war chest. The unknown is who is dispersing the funds, dealing with payroll, infrastructure, etc.

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Originally posted by oddball:
No real effort to track the sources. Amazon gave 10 million dollars to BLM last month. Other donors include Nabisco, Microsoft, Apple, Gatorade, etc. BLM has a multi-million/billion dollar war chest. The unknown is who is dispersing the funds, dealing with payroll, infrastructure, etc.

Wasn't there a paper trail that showed donations to the "Black Lives Matter" org were actually being funneled to Biden's campaign?

I would wager a guess that these thugs on the street aren't actually being funded by the official Black Lives Matter organization.

What do we know about the affiliations, motivations, and politics of the Kenosha County District Attorney, Mr. Michael D. Graveley?

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Originally posted by 46and2:
What do we know about the affiliations, motivations, and politics of the Kenosha County District Attorney, Mr. Michael D. Graveley?

He is a partisan Demorat. I will try to post a link or two shortly.

Edited to update:

19-year-old Chrystul Kizer had been kidnapped and held as a sex slave by Randall P. Volar III for more than a year. She got free, shot Volar twice, lit his body on fire, and fled the scene in his car. Kenosha County DA Michael Graveley charged Kizer with first-degree murder, use of a dangerous weapon, and four other felonies. The case has caused such an uproar that even Harvard Law students denounced Graveley.

Law School Students Criticize Wisconsin Prosecutor in Open Letter

Chrystul Kizer, charged with killing her suspected sex trafficker, released from jail ...