Wrightd, the knife was an Benchmade AFO. I only had 1 hand available so thankfully all I carry are auto's. Side note I have been attacked by 2 other pits when I was a contractor, but my channel locks did the job before they latched on. Only other attack was a Rhodesian Ridgeback. Shovel came in handy then.

"It's almost like people breed specific traits into dogs..."

The hell, you say.

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Originally posted by gocatgo:
As a pediatric home health RN, I took care of a good number of children with ongoing problems from dog bite wounds. ALL the dogs that had attacked were, you guessed it - Pit Bulls. Not a scientific study by any means but telling. Had a friend that had a “sweet” pit. Raised her from a pup and she had never been mistreated. When she was three years old she jumped the six foot stockade fence and killed an elderly couple’s little yapper. I agree that Pits are demons from
hell.

Yep. Screw that breed of dog. Everyone has their opinion and that is mine of that breed. Have seen some pretty bad attacks on people over the years even helping hold a little girl’s arm and face together w/ pressure bandages until the rescue squads got to her. I’ll let you take a guess on what breed of dogs were involved in these attacks. If you guess one legged miniature poodle w/ a piddle problem you would be wrong.

A couple years ago a sweet little old lady was walking her little dog around her neighborhood. She did this twice a day. I knew her husband.

It's a reasonably nice neighborhood, it's close to me and I know other people who live there.

While she was walking her little dog, they were attacked by a pit bull and another large dog. Her dog was killed first, then she was killed by the pitbull and other dog. She was almost decapitated by those damn dogs. Police came out and the dogs were still aggressive, the cops shot one and hit the other with a squad car. That finally stopped the dogs.

The guy who owned the dogs had let them run loose before, and was warned repeatedly.

Here are a couple of links: Link to story #1 and here is one where the owner was in trial court over this Dog Owner Charged With Manslaughter

I get it, most of the problem lies with the owner, but there are way too many times these big strong dogs go wild, even after training and generally behaving themselves, and people are seriously maimed.

Me? If I'm out and dog charges at me, especially a large strong dog, I'm going to draw down on it and if it gets too close, it's a dead dog, Lord help me to aim straight.
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My goodness you are light years ahead of most of us here. A new member with under 200 posts suggested a defensive shoot. On a dog. I've been carrying for 10 years now and never once encountered a situation causing me to draw my gun. Many of you have carried many more years than me, and not once ever encountered a situation resulting in a draw. Not buying it. Fiction is a wonderful thing isn't it?

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Originally posted by goose5:
My goodness you are light years ahead of most of us here. A new member with under 200 posts suggested a defensive shoot. On a dog. I've been carrying for 10 years now and never once encountered a situation causing me to draw my gun. Many of you have carried many more years than me, and not once ever encountered a situation resulting in a draw. Not buying it. Fiction is a wonderful thing isn't it?

Seems completely plausible to me. And I don't see where your post count is a good way to determine if something is a lie..

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Originally posted by goose5:
My goodness you are light years ahead of most of us here. A new member with under 200 posts suggested a defensive shoot. On a dog. I've been carrying for 10 years now and never once encountered a situation causing me to draw my gun. Many of you have carried many more years than me, and not once ever encountered a situation resulting in a draw. Not buying it. Fiction is a wonderful thing isn't it?

You don't know me, you don't know my life experiences, but your lie detector test is post count?

Bless your heart.

goose5, WOW!

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Originally posted by Batty67:

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

Batty -- can you post (or email to me) a photo of Zhora? And tell us a little about her?.

Sure. Canaan Dogs are a pariah dog breed from Israel (Canaan), also called Israel Canaan Dogs]

Beautiful girl! Now that I see your photos, I realize that there are a couple in my neighborhood, but I did not know what they are.

If I ever get another dog (doubtful at my age), these would be at the top of my list. Wondering whether there are any rescue organizations, looking to place these in a good home.

My dad did flooring and small remodel/repair work his whole life. Every customer that had a dog was warned to keep the dog secured. Maybe half heeded that warning. I can’t count the number of times just when I was there to witness it, “Oh he’s friendly, don’t worry.” First thing dad would do is walk to the back of the van, pull out a piece of tack strip and wait for the charge. One swat across the face, the dogs would hide the rest of the day. Only dog that ever shrugged off the hit was a pit mix. It bit dad in the chest and was going for his neck. He got a hammer wedged in its mouth and choked it near unconscious before it stopped.

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Originally posted by Plugugly:
You don't know me, you don't know my life experiences, but your lie detector test is post count?

Bless your heart.

OP sorry you are having to deal with this, no one needs BS in their life that has nothing to do with what their own actions were. It's like getting attacked by a person and defending yourself, somehow you have to defend why you returned a punch or threw an idiot to the ground, no different. I hope this doesn't become a major inconvenience to you.

As for the pitbull side argument going on. First I think all dogs are evil killing machines. Been hospitalized; stitched up; came an inch away from jugular puncture; and had my own dog killed by another to think any other way. The difference about pits are two things. First it's like the difference in between a Nissan Leaf and a NASCAR car. The NASCAR vehicle has way more ability to inflict speed upon his opponent as does a Pit or other large/strong/locking jaw/poorly bread dog to inflict pain upon his.

I've been bitten so many times I've lost count, my own mother's dogs bite me, they are little 10 pound asshole dogs so only once has one broken skin. The bigger dogs (more adept, like pits) are the ones that landed me in the hospital. Coincidentally all the dogs on the top ten lists (pits being #1) were the ones that sent me in for stitches.

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Originally posted by goose5:
My goodness you are light years ahead of most of us here. A new member with under 200 posts suggested a defensive shoot. On a dog. I've been carrying for 10 years now and never once encountered a situation causing me to draw my gun. Many of you have carried many more years than me, and not once ever encountered a situation resulting in a draw. Not buying it. Fiction is a wonderful thing isn't it?

I'm with you, buddy. Sub-10k post count members are not to be believed, either. So, better get your ass moving.

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Originally posted by goose5:
My goodness you are light years ahead of most of us here. A new member with under 200 posts suggested a defensive shoot. On a dog. I've been carrying for 10 years now and never once encountered a situation causing me to draw my gun. Many of you have carried many more years than me, and not once ever encountered a situation resulting in a draw. Not buying it. Fiction is a wonderful thing isn't it?

Well damn,this is the same thing that I posted years back with just a low post count.
I posted about the time a pit jumped into neighbors yard and hemmed up the father and his nine year old some between house and back poach.
They screamed for help,I put one round from my forty in its head.
I never got over the shit that came my way and I never brought to this forum about the other four I had to shoot and the vet bills from my little poodles getting bit by these so called gentle killers.
Low post counts does not mean shit when a man is trying to reach out for help with his trama.
Being a dog lover it hurts like hell to have to take a life of someones pet.

I've seen unprovoked attacks by pitbulls three times. Once on a kid that just happened to be walking past the owner's residence (the dog was unsecured), once when an owner taking her dog on a hike on the same trail I was walking my greyhound on couldn't control her pitbull which dragged her like a paperbag 20 yards to grab my (leashed) dog, and once when a client's family dog charged me after I unknowingly opened a door to the backyard, before I had a chance to shut it. In the last case, the dog leapt up and grabbed a mouthful of my shirt at the open collar and I came damn close to shooting it. I was lucky in that one of the family members was able to drag the damn thing off of me before any physical harm could be done.

When animal control arrived to take the report regarding the injury to my greyhound (about a $1,000.00 in vet bills were the result and the owner paid them), he told me that the problem with this breed is undeniable. The officer is/was a dog lover, but just like pointers are bred to point, herding breeds are bred to herd, and retrievers are bred to retrieve, pit bulls have been bred to fight and that degree of aggression can only be moderated so much. He said that in the last couple decades he's been working (he'd been doing this work for roughly 30 years), it's been impossible to retain volunteers for their adoption program since attacks on these people had become so common. Far out of proportion to other breeds, some of the best socialized dogs "snapped" after being adopted by responsible owners.

I consider myself fortunate that I didn't have to shoot one of those dogs, especially the one that grabbed the kid (on a Halloween night, now that I think about it). I used my hiking stick to separate my greyhound from the dog on the trail. Afterwards, the stupid ass owner insisted that her dog had never attacked another, but while waiting for animal control to arrive, it leapt out of her car and attacked another dog!

I'm sorry the posters here had to deal with these situations, but they sure as hell didn't go looking for dogs to shoot and there's too many of these incidents to just write off as due to a few irresponsible owners. Dogs can be a common threat to people and their property (other dogs, livestock, etc...), and there are times that threats need to be dealt with. Post counts haven't a damn thing to do with that.

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Originally posted by pulicords:
.... Post counts haven't a damn thing to do with that.

Yeah if post count means anything then this guy Para with a very high post count would carry the most weight..

Oh wait he does. Nevermind, bad example.

I sure wish these threads would get locked.
They never fail to degrade into breed specific arguments and whether right or wrong, some people bragging discretely about killing dogs.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:

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Originally posted by SevenPlusOne:
It's almost like people breed specific traits into dogs...

I had a 90lb pit rip the left side of my face off in 2015, came within an inch of killing me and/or blinding me. He lunged and bit into my right rib and pulled me out and into the street. I'm permanently disfigured, and still have the vampire bites on my rib, along with a cranial bruise over my left eye and temple that will never heal. The dog didn't bark or anything, he saw me and attacked without warning.

And what did the owner's insurance payout for your medicals and casualty claim?

Dog owner didn't have insurance, they were renters, I won a 6 figure settlement, but there was nothing to collect. Home owner didn't pay anything.
The real kicker is, they moved onto the route that I took after all this and the younger shithead from the house (daughters bf?) would drive around and "Bark" at me with his friend and laugh. They even tried to ambush me by pulling out in front of me and coming to a quick stop. Him and his homeboy jumped out, I don't think they knew how tight the turning radius is in those Postal trucks, I had just enough room to zoom around. I regret not running him over. The dog owners wife died a few years ago, and I heard that he's in jail now (he was already a convicted felon).
I got a settlement from workmans comp for the scar on my face, which was less than the overtime I missed out on while I was recovering.

I had to do it once. It sucked.
The history of calling animal control on them, and animal controller trapping their dogs in live traps inside our fenced acreage multiple times is what ultimately saved me from legal action. It still didn't stop them from calling the troopers on me multiple times, and a couple stand offs.
I was investigated, and it was called a good shoot without charges filed on me. My neighbors poisened my puppy later that year.
Crackhead neighbors suck. It was all I could do to not burn their house down. If they didn't have children, I'd have made them both dissappear.

I don't understand the descent into an argument here. A man, a HUMAN BEING, a fucking sentient being said a dog who by size and weight alone, regardless of breed, is capable of killing said man attacked him. Regardles of whether it was your mee-maw's Golden Retriever or your niece's labradoodle, a fucking dog attacked a man.

The man shot the dog. Who in their right mind is going to say that a man on his own property should have to behave differently when a problem animal looking for trouble showed up?

I own dogs. I love my dog. However, a dog is an animal, not a person. When you give an animal human characteristics and afford it more "rights" than a human, you degrade the value of human life.

Am I only allowed to shoot a chihuahua if it is attacking a newborn? A pit bill if it is attacking a toddler? A wolf if is attacking a man? Gimmie a break and really think of what you would have done in the OP's position. DOGS ARE NOT PEOPLE