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Originally posted by bgouker:
My dog and I were attacked by a pit bull while out walking. I had my dog in my arms, pitbull dragged me to the ground when he attacked. There were several neighbors out watching, not a damn one helped. To many people to take a chance discharging my pistol, I ended up eviscerating it in the middle of the street with my backup knife. Police showed up, my dog went to the vet and I ended up at urgent care. They were ticketed for letting a vicous dog run loose. The police were cool about, neighbors not so much. Everyone avoids me now, which is fine.

Good on you....glad you are ok!

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I love dogs. Pit bulls are not dogs. They are demons from hell.

That didn't take long. Wow.

I am sorry this happened to you and you had to do what you did. Pisses me off when dog owners are not responsible and think their dog won’t attack a person or other dog. I am sure you will, but be extra vigilant and watch your 6 as you never know what these “neighbors” may now do especially if they took pictures of your mom’s car.

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I love dogs. Pit bulls are not dogs. They are demons from hell.

Bullshit. Pits are like any other dog: Saving those born with a bad temperament, which can happen with any breed, their behavior is entirely a result of their upbringing.

Next door neighbor has a pit mix. Sweetest dog you could ever hope to meet.

Pits can be great. The problem is that they are so absurdly strong that when things go bad, they often go really bad. Like the 10mm of dogs.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I love dogs. Pit bulls are not dogs. They are demons from hell.

Bullshit. Pits are like any other dog: Saving those born with a bad temperament, which can happen with any breed, their behavior is entirely a result of their upbringing.

Next door neighbor has a pit mix. Sweetest dog you could ever hope to meet.

100% agree. Dogs are mostly a product of their environment. Even then, all dogs should be on a leash when walked or in front yard and not inside a fence. Dogs are animals and you never know how they may react; that is on the owner if they don’t secure their dog. It is terrible to have to hurt an animal due to the negligence of the owner, but you have to do what you have to do.

Oh look, it turned into a pit bull thread.

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Originally posted by cruiser68:

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Originally posted by bgouker:
My dog and I were attacked by a pit bull while out walking. I had my dog in my arms, pitbull dragged me to the ground when he attacked. There were several neighbors out watching, not a damn one helped. To many people to take a chance discharging my pistol, I ended up eviscerating it in the middle of the street with my backup knife. Police showed up, my dog went to the vet and I ended up at urgent care. They were ticketed for letting a vicous dog run loose. The police were cool about, neighbors not so much. Everyone avoids me now, which is fine.

Good on you....glad you are ok!

Good Lord !!! Someday you must tell us what configuration and size of the knive you used to save your life. Holy shit !! I can imagine it must have been a fixed blade vs a folder.

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I love dogs. Pit bulls are not dogs. They are demons from hell.

Disagree. Generally dogs are only a problem because either a) their owners are incapable of handling them correctly, or b) their owners are asshats that want the dogs to be a problem and make them that way.

There are a lot of good, sweet, gentle pits out there. Unfortunately, they do seem to be a breed that an awful lot of asshats who want to turn a dog into a problem choose. Most times, euthanizing the owner would do more good for society than euthanizing the dog. Sadly, the law doesn’t allow for that.

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Originally posted by mcrimm:
I love dogs. Pit bulls are not dogs. They are demons from hell.

That's some horseshit, but it does suck when an irresponsible asshole trains (or doesn't train) their dog to not have proper behavior.

Breed doesn't have anything to do with it... (as my pit bull nuzzles my hand and tries to tempt me to go outside and throw her light up ball for her)

Dog breeds have different temperments that are inherent apart from upbringing and experience. Some dogs are more prone.

Pits are not the same as other dogs.

95% or more of all dog attacks I've read or heard of were pits.

So if the breed isn't the problem, then why pits attract so many of the problematic owners?

Waiting for the, "But cocker spaniels bite more people every year than pit bulls" comment.....

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Dog breeds have different temperments that are inherent apart from upbringing and experience. Some dogs are more prone.

Pits are not the same as other dogs.

What a load.

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Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
95% or more of all dog attacks I've read or heard of were pits.

So if the breed isn't the problem, then why pits attract so many of the problematic owners?

When a pit bull is involved in an attack, ya every notice who the owner(s) are? They tend to follow a rather specific stereotype. Let me lay it out for you. When the worst of society own a dog specifically to compensate for a tiny pecker, and/or they want "the baddest MF in da hood", gee I can't imagine where the problem lies. I have a neighbor who owns a Chihuahua, and that neurotic bastard has bitten just about everyone its ever come in contact with. So I guess by correlation all Chihuahua's are simply viscous attack dogs?

Damn I get tired of this stupid debate.

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Originally posted by SIG228:
Waiting for the, "But cocker spaniels bite more people every year than pit bulls" comment.....

Nah, Cockers would bite, if only they had enough brain function to figure out how to do it. Had a Cocker growing up. I rescued the bastard from drowning on almost a daily basis as he tried to swim the mile and a half across our lake. Many times I considered turning the boat back to shore and letting him solve my problem for me.

With most of the pits I've met, the most dangerous thing about them is their tail. Like a braided steel cable across the knees.

Usually, if you show me a bad dog, I'll show you a bad owner.

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Originally posted by saigonsmuggler:
95% or more of all dog attacks I've read or heard of were pits.

So if the breed isn't the problem, then why pits attract so many of the problematic owners?

There are two reasons you read about them. First, the severity of their attacks. Second, bias in media. Media loves fearmongering at any opportunity.

These owners know the potential capabilites of some breeds and take advantage of that as a badge of honor.
Owning a badass dog can somehow make them a badass too.

The dogs that don't do well with fighting are often used as bait dogs for the training of the more aggressive ones.

I've shot several killing the chickens and drop the collars off at the owners' respective mailbox.

Had one try to sue me and wound having to pay ME for the chickens. Judge only paid me market value for my chickens without taking in the consideration how much it cost me to raise them from biddies or the socialization time it took to make them pets.

I'm tasked by my landlord with protecting horses at my end of the farm from strays harassing them. The boarders trust that their horses are kept safe from predators. Neighborhoods are popping up all around us now and the irresponsible can't be bothered to check their fences or just let their dogs roam at large.

As a pediatric home health RN, I took care of a good number of children with ongoing problems from dog bite wounds. ALL the dogs that had attacked were, you guessed it - Pit Bulls. Not a scientific study by any means but telling. Had a friend that had a “sweet” pit. Raised her from a pup and she had never been mistreated. When she was three years old she jumped the six foot stockade fence and killed an elderly couple’s little yapper. I agree that Pits are demons from
hell.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Dog breeds have different temperments that are inherent apart from upbringing and experience. Some dogs are more prone.

Pits are not the same as other dogs.

Agreed. They are much more prone to violence and when they do they are lethal. I believe there was a member here who was a mail carrier that almost lost his life to one.

Couple that with owners who are not up to the resposibility and you have a bad deal

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Originally posted by Sunset_Va:
As much as I revere and care about dogs, I realize not all dogs are civil.

You did what you thought was necessary, people like the people you described should not have any kind of animal.

To me the fear of getting mauled is great, but the fear of getting bitten by a rabid dog is greater.

well said