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Originally posted by FenderBender:...
And can you tell me what the worlds oldest profession is?

Slavery.

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Originally posted by 92fstech:

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And can you tell me what the worlds oldest profession is?

Just because it's been around forever doesn't mean it's beneficial or worthy of promotion.

In that case you might ask, why has it been around forever?

Every time this subject comes up, all I can think of is the George Carlin quote:

Selling is legal and fucking is legal, so why isn’t selling fucking legal?

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Originally posted by 92fstech:

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And can you tell me what the worlds oldest profession is?

Just because it's been around forever doesn't mean it's beneficial or worthy of promotion.

In that case you might ask, why has it been around forever?

That's easy. Because people are willing to pay for it, and others are willing to sell it. But the sellers are also often not the providers (see Monkey's post above), and even if they are that doesn't make it wholesome or beneficial.

Oldest profession in the world that I know of. Definitely should be legal like in Amsterdam, Prague, etc. Controlled.

I had a guy at work one time, he and his brother/uncles were going to someplace where it was a thing. Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, somewhere. He asked me about it and I told him what others with more intimate knowledge had told me. He was nervous and said “I’ve just never paid for it before” and I couldn’t stop laughing at him. He said what is so funny? And I said, dude, you been paying for it your whole life. What the fuck? Is dating free Holmes?

I think it’s more honest than what many do. Women marry for money, not love, all the time. They are more of a whore to me than a pro. I’ve called the trophy wife type women prostitutes my whole life and have told a few to their face. The pro is at least honest. You want this pussy? Here is what it costs for this long. Everything is on the level, up front, and honest, 100%. More than I can say for the dating world/sphere, where so much underhanded shit goes on. You may not like paying for pussy but at least it’s honest and more honest than most dating/marriages.

In the past the "oldest profession" was not something normal women ever considered. A very small percentage of women engaged in it, but for everyone else it was a non-starter. And when it comes to things like porn, even today the industry is actually quite small and only a relatively small number of actresses get much notoriety.

The problem today is that it has become more "acceptable" to have an OnlyFans site, not to mention Instagram girls and all their posed cheesecake photos. At the NRA show in Indy in 2019 I saw various Instagram girls posing with guns and had to ask who/what they were doing. "Instagram girls" was the response. I didn't have Instagram then, so I hadn't seen this yet.

The slippery slope then turns into the large number of women looking to be "sugar babies" on dating apps, and from there to being escorts to "make a little extra money".

In most of these cases, young women see easy money and are too naive to think ahead to what it will do to their lives. And despite "legalization" there is still a lot of crime and coercion surrounding prostitution. And a lot of "managers" taking a cut of the money, while the "talent" gives up all rights to the material.

No normal man wants to have a serious relationship or marriage with a prostitute or porn actress. Sure men want to have sex with them, but only in the context of their movies, quick and easy with no commitment. We should not be encouraging more and more women to go down this road, it usually doesn't end well.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:...
And can you tell me what the worlds oldest profession is?

Slavery.

Nope, farming. Adam and Eve tended the garden in the book of Genesis. Or I suppose it could be gardening……

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In that case you might ask, why has it been around forever?

Access to resources.

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Nope, farming. Adam and Eve tended the garden in the book of Genesis. Or I suppose it could be gardening……

Well they were naked, so they were doing more than farming. She had to go fuck it up too. Had she listened we’d all be getting to run around naked 24/7 365. Damn

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Had she listened we’d all be getting to run around naked 24/7 365. Damn

Be careful what you wish for. 99% of people look far better with their clothes on.

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The reality is every culture that has ever advanced has put strict limits on female sexuality.

Japan?

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Originally posted by 9mmepiphany:

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The reality is every culture that has ever advanced has put strict limits on female sexuality.

Japan?

First, many countries and civilizations told everyone how moral they were but the actual behind the scenes practice was much different. As for Japan, Japan has been doing Sex Trafficking for centuries. Japan also codified the whole Geisha class. Also in the mid to late 1980s too many Japanese Business and Governments leaders were getting caught with 14 to 16 year old Japanese Schoolgirls. So the Japanese government in their great wisdom....lowered the age of consent to 14 but only for Japanese citizens.

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Wrong.

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First, many countries and civilizations told everyone how noral they were but the actual behind the scenes practice was much different. as for Japan, Japan has been doing Sex Trafficking for centuries. Japan also codified the whole Geisha class.

That you believe Geishas are the equivalent of Prostitutes, demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of the class.

Regardless of that, Japan has a very active sex industry that caters to what many consider "unusual" at best. Of course they have to advantage of not confusing sex with religion/morals...but as a healthy bodily function

The practitioners of that profession are not degraded in their society and are usually made up of females from the middle class...often working for the "extra income."

Yes the Geisha were a different class…..along the lines of a high priced escort that was codified into their society. Also let’s not forget the Japanese history and use of “comfort women” from their conquered territories. That was certainly healthy and moral.

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Yes the Geisha were a different class…..along the lines of a high priced escort that was codified into their society.

Much more than a high priced escort

Closer to a contract (short term) concubine. When paying to be entertained, sex isn't a given...certainly not expected by either party

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Also let’s not forget the Japanese history and use of “comfort women” from their conquered territories. That was certainly healthy and moral.

Completely moral under their society's rules...the important term is "conquered". In their society, to surrender forfeits all honor and the rights that go with it

Morals are never universal, they are, by default, established by each society

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Completely moral under their society's rules...the important term is "conquered". In their society, to surrender forfeits all honor and the rights that go with it

Morals are never universal, they are, by default, established by each society

Lets not forget that in pre war Japan there was a government licensed prostitution system and human trafficking was officially sanctioned. Not talking about Geishas here but the Yugo, which were girls and women from poor families who were "indentured" to be sex workers. Legal or Illegal, bad people (pimps, traffickers, Politicians, Bureaucrats, and paid off enforcement/inspectors) will be involved and making money while the exploited suffer.

Also, I was wrong about the age of consent thing in Japan, old age is to blame. The actual age of consent for Japan for over one hundred years was 13. I was in at Kadena Air Base in Okinawa in the mid to late 1980s when the issue flared up due to several scandals. The Japanese government offered to change the age of consent to 14 but everything died down and the age of consent did not change until 2023.

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world

Interesting. I knew China was 14 because I looked it up when some Chinese were claiming the US was worse. Didn't know Italy and Portugal is 14, and Philippines is 12.

Some time back, I discovered that my girlfriend of a few years was cheating on me. Her phone had meetings arranged with at least a dozen guys. I walked out right then.

A few months later, she admitted that she got paid for it, even showed me her ad on a local website that dealt with such things. At the time, I thought she was still working a night shift at a tax paying job.


I do believe that I'm better off single

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Regardless of that, Japan has a very active sex industry that caters to what many consider "unusual" at best.

Possibly described as being phallistically tentacular.