I just read an article on The Western Journal about an FBI Supervisor who hired prostitutes both in the US and abroad...

Story on Western Journal

I have long been of the opinion that it shouldn't be illegal. I mean, if you have a one night stand with a gal and it doesn't cost anything but a few drinks or whatever, that's totally legal. If you give her money for it, it is suddenly illegal! I just don't get the logic. Yes, it is immoral on several fronts, especially if you are married, but illegal? Why???

Three... two... one... DISCUSS!

Because Uncle Sam doesn't get his cut (tax $$) out of it?

Isn't it legal in Nevada?

quote:

I mean, if you have a one night stand with a gal and it doesn't cost anything but a few drinks or whatever, that's totally legal. If you give her money for it, it is suddenly illegal!

But, if you do it every single day, then it’s legal. Because she’s now your wife.

Like drugs, it should be legal. What any adult wants to do with another consenting adult is their business, as is what any adult wants to put into/do to their body. These things new a truly conservative approach- government, hands off!

There are already laws against many of the negative effects that can come from either.

^ yeah, but only in like one county and it's not Vegas. Pahrump (sp?) I think.
I don't hold a generally high opinion of women based on how I've been treated by the so-called fairer sex, so being open about the transactional nature of the relationship from the start would be a welcome experience.

It's like weed. Only legal if the can find a way to tax it.

quote:

Originally posted by 229DAK:
<<SNIP>>
Isn't it legal in Nevada?

Only in parts of NV, not the whole state...

Is it a victimless crime? Probably so, unless you consider that society's moral norms have been violated thus turning something into malum prohibida.

Maybe necrophelia is the only true victimless crime? Malum per se or malum prohibida?

A Secret Service Agent got into a decent amount of trouble over a hooker in Columbia.

To me- You want to sell that ass, go sell that ass. It's the world's oldest profession.
You ain't stopping it, I'm not stopping it, and no religious group out there is going to stop it either.

Then there's the reality of the situation:
The human trafficking aspect,
Pimps aren't exactly what we would consider "Nice People",
Oh the diseases!- anything from "Take these two pills and you'll be better in a few days" to "Your going to die a long and protracted death, by the way, you may want to contact everyone you've slept with and let them know.",
The Mental Illness that goes along with thinking that selling your ass is a good idea.


229DAK- IIRC, There's only like 10 counties in Nevada where it's legal. The other 7 or so, it's Illegal.

Would legalization make it easier, or harder, to find and free young women (and boys) forced into prostitution by cartels, pimps, drug dealers?

quote:

Originally posted by CPD SIG:
A Secret Service Agent got into a decent amount of trouble over a hooker in Columbia.

To me- You want to sell that ass, go sell that ass. It's the world's oldest profession.
You ain't stopping it, I'm not stopping it, and no religious group out there is going to stop it either.

Then there's the reality of the situation:
The human trafficking aspect,
Pimps aren't exactly what we would consider "Nice People",
Oh the diseases!- anything from "Take these two pills and you'll be better in a few days" to "Your going to die a long and protracted death, by the way, you may want to contact everyone you've slept with and let them know.",
The Mental Illness that goes along with thinking that selling your ass is a good idea.


229DAK- IIRC, There's only like 10 counties in Nevada where it's legal. The other 7 or so, it's Illegal.

Not to mention, nobody here advocating legal hookers would like them on their street corner hawking the goods. Wifes would be pissed.

In NV, if you feel the need to hump, go to Pahrump, don't be a Chicken, hit the Ranch!.

https://chickenranchbrothel.com/

quote:

Originally posted by TMats:
Would legalization make it easier, or harder, to find and free young women (and boys) forced into prostitution by cartels, pimps, drug dealers?

I doubt it. You would have to increase the size of Government, for health inspections, taxes, etc. Where there is a demand, there will be an illegal supply. Legalizing it would just make Sex Trafficking cases murky enough that very few would be charged, let alone convicted.

Legally? Almost nothing should be illegal except malicious harm. Something that violates another's basic rights (Life, Liberty, Property) is the purview of the use of government force.

Fully informed competent adult consent is not the business of other people, and thus not the business of government (our collective agent).

It gets stickier when there are indirect negative effects on society. Is my right to property harmed when a brothel is established next to my toy store where families and children frequent? When the associated ills such as drug abuse or other low level crimes move in, what is the legitimate action for the community to take?

Generally it seems easier to start at the root which is prostitution, though rightfully it would be to harshly police the associated illegal activities such as drugs, theft, assault, late night noise, etc.

In modern America, there would seem to be little reason for women to need to become sex workers to earn a survivable income. There is plenty of opportunity, assuming one avoids meth.

Legalizing it would have challenges in order to keep it from just being the same organized criminals running it except now legally.

Like I think most people, I don’t want to know why consenting adults do the sexual things they do.

And…. For a long time, pornography was reviled and heavily persecuted, even though prostitution was legal.

Maybe that makes more sense. Both lead to the same “sin,” but one does not necessitate documentation/publication and…. I don’t know. Maybe it’s more human?

If a woman want's to sell her wares, so be it.
Do it safely.(son't spread venereal diseases)
Give forced sex work a stronger penalty.(see I didn't say stiffer...)

My problem with it is that they are being exploited. If they were able to choose their Johns; have freedom of movement; not be abused; be over 18; and get to keep the money they earned, then I probably wouldn't care.

An extremely large percentage are sex slaves and trafficking victims.

Not sure where y'all been for the last 10 years, but prostitution is in fact legal in all 50 states. And the American society has already decided that it's right.

Let's start with the basic stuff, Instagram and Snapchat. Ya know how many millions of people add their venmo, cashapp or other mobile payments and get paid for what was considered Playboy content?

Next dating apps. Dating today is literal prostitution on a wide scale. Women demanding you pay for their Uber, the dinner not only just for her but all her kids. Paying for the babysitter, paying for her hair and nails, and $800 in makeup, just for a first date. Some are even asking for payment of their time on the date. Normal average women.

Next level, OnlyFans and Patreon, where millions actively sell their bodies in all kinds of degenerate ways. There are criminal elements to these social media outlets that are massive.

Straight up porn. Call it what you want but porn has always been prostitution.

All this is glorified now. Just spend sometime on youtube and watch even the shorts from creators like Pearl, Whatever podcast, fit and fresh podcast...there are dozens of such that exposes the OnlyFans women and the billion dollar industry behind it. And it's not just the young, thousands of older women, married/divorced, are doing it.

And finally, lets not forget the prostitution of kids on the alter of the trans religion. They are being sold off to the medical industry for their entire lives.

I've seen it all my adult life, traveling all over, and it is a disgusting and vile part of human nature. Saying it's been part of our existence, is like saying so was slavery...and we fought a whole war over it.

If you're male you pay for sex whenever you aren't by yourself.
The discussion revolves around the details.

My opinion is that it should be managed in brothels, and illegal on the street. Not perfect in a Puritan sense, but much safer for all involved...which are going to be involved regardless.

I grew up in a place where if it wasn't actually legal, it was at least treated like it was. It was everywhere, out in the open, and in your face. Nudity in public advertising (billboards, newspapers, magazine stands, etc), naked women in club windows facing public streets, hookers on the street corners. There was also a strong Russian, Ukrainian, and Romani mob presence behind it.

Think about how things have become in states that have legalized weed. Signage and storefronts everywhere and an ever-present stench that permeates public areas like a cloud. Now imagine that with hookers and porn.

I don't want my kids growing up in that environment. And frankly, I don't want it around me, either. I'm a dude, and as such I find the female body attractive, but I have enough respect for my wife that I limit myself to hers.

I know banning it doesn't stop it, but legitimizing and promoting it creates even more problems. There's no societal benefit...just negatives.

quote:

Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
(see I didn't say stiffer...)

I see what you did there!

quote:

Originally posted by 12131:

quote:

I mean, if you have a one night stand with a gal and it doesn't cost anything but a few drinks or whatever, that's totally legal. If you give her money for it, it is suddenly illegal!

But, if you do it every single day, then it’s legal. Because she’s now your wife.

If she's your wife, you pay for it every day, but only get it once a month!!!!

I think it should be legal. If someone wants to pay for it, who cares. Not sure why the U.S. is so anal about Prostitution or topless beaches when most other countries allow it.