Biden just sent them 300 million

Ukraine targets bus stops and polling stations. Maybe widen your propaganda searches. They shelled Donetsk for years before the invasion killing civillians sympathetic to Russia.
And by them I mean us

I have no "side" as "We" are not at war with Russia. I believe that my Government is truthful, honest and righteous. They are the only force of good in this world.
I am off to get my 14 booster

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
Biden just sent them 300 million

Oh, he JUST sent $300M first time in 6 months? (It's $270M, actually, let's not forget the "10% for the Big Guy").Nice to know, but doesn't bring us any closer to understanding how the "24 hrs plan" is supposed to work. Care to take a stab at it?

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Ukraine targets bus stops and polling stations.

Proof?

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Maybe widen your propaganda searches.

Please, help me with that. Start with the proof of targeting of bus stops.

Give me a few minutes to check CNN, MSNBC and Democrat Underground. It's always wise to ask the way to wisdom, but be unwilling to walk the path yourself. It is a huge timesaver

The US of A is not the only entity giving war supplies to the Zelensky clown show of the East.

Germany supplies a lot of money and supplies, for one.

Been watching some German U-tube v-bloggers and it's the same there as here; Government in power ruling against the interests of the people - the sensible people at least.

The Bolshevik scum in power there are trying to pull the same shit as the bolshevik scum are doing here in free speech suppression.

I swear, the bolshevik governments in most of Europe and the US are all reading from the same script, provided for by the International Bolshevik movement.

There was an article per one v-blogger, that the French Chief of General Staff said France could provide up to 60K troops for the Ukraine. The info came from a recent article in Le Mond.

One comment posted on the v-loggers vlog I read stated; 'The French are trying to create a new Dien Bien Phu.' Another mentioned 60K body bags would be required. Another stated, that they'd be all dead since all the French Army has done recently is going on African Safari.

It also seems that the top German General in some meeting with German Clowns, stated that the Taurus system is not a turn key system one can just hand over to the Ukrainians and also stated that providing Ukraine with such a system would be a major escalation in current hostilities there.

The press there are also propaganda organs like the press is here.

The war drums are beating louder. Now one begins to understand people might have been feeling in summers of 1914 and 1939.

Putin is no saint, but then our western leaders are no better; perhaps even worse.

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Putin is no saint, but then our western leaders are no better; perhaps even worse.

Well, let's see. Putin has sanctioned and approved the abduction of hundreds of Ukrainian children who are then taken to Russia to be raised as good Russians. The US Marine Paul Whelan is being held hostage by Putin along with Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich. Then of course there are all of the dissidents he has personally ordered killed including Alexi Navalny. Add to that his decision to invade Ukraine because he thought he could get away with it. Any google search can lengthen the list of Putin's crimes including turning a blind eye so to speak to the atrocities committed by his troops including rape and torture of prisoners of war.

I know you say Putin is no saint. I'm glad you recognize that. But to suggest that Western leaders may be no better than Putin is a bit much for me. But then again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Such a poppet

echidna, are you suggesting that Ukraine can win this war without NATO boots on the ground. Are you suggesting that Ukraine can win this ware with more munitions? They're almost out of fighting age males. Why do you think they have increased the conscription age to sixty? Just my $0.02 but that doesn't seem like a good sign.

Link

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Why do you think they have increased the conscription age to sixty? Just my $0.02 but that doesn't seem like a good sign.

Your link is dated Feb 23, 2022. 1 day BEFORE Russia invaded.

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Originally posted by oldbill123:
Such a poppet

poppet

A term of great endearment and affection, used to describe in one word all the feelings of warmth, comfort, kindness, generosity, honesty and strength of character you feel everytime you are with that person.

A word not to be used lightly, but one that expresses great respect and admiration for those to whom it is directed.
'Trancey is a poppet'

Thank You. I am truly flattered.

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Then of course there are all of the dissidents he has personally ordered killed including Alexi Navalny. Add to that his decision to invade Ukraine because he thought he could get away with it.

Re: Alexi Navalny, that's pure speculation.
Re: The invasion of Ukraine, that's not accurate and conjecture at best.

Both sound like a Legacy State Media talking points...Propaganda much?

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Orifinally posted by Fed161:
Add to that his decision to invade Ukraine because he thought he could get away with it.

That's not accurate, and conjecture at best. Sounds like a Legacy State Media talking point...Propaganda much?

I actually agree with you that Putin had lots of reasons why he invaded Ukraine. But I do believe that a part of his calculation was that the invasion could be successfully accomplished quickly and with a minimal cost to him.

You are more than welcome.
SATELLITE IMAGERY CONFIRMED STORM SHADOW MISSILES MISSED TARGETS IN SEVASTOPOL, CRIMEA

https://southfront.press/satel...n-sevastopol-crimea/

They shoot annnnnnd miss. But claimed otherwise

“We Have A Problem: Children Want To Return To Russia!” Ukraine Admits That “Rescued” Children Want To Go Back

https://southfront.press/we-ha...ren-want-to-go-back/


OOPS

SouthFront (sometimes written South Front) is a multilingual website registered in Russia and based in Crimea. It has been accused by multiple sources of being an outlet for disinformation and propaganda under the control of the Russian government.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...Russian%20government.

^^^Wikipedia...

Re: Alexi Navalny, that's pure speculation.

Putin is responsible for Navalny's death. You may be correct that Navalny's recent death may not have been caused by some overt act by the prison guards at the gulag where Navalny was imprisoned. But it is beyond dispute that On 20 August 2020, Russian opposition leader and anti-corruption activist Alexei Navalny was poisoned with the Novichok nerve agent. That nerve agent is not available to the general public. The poisoning was done by Russian agents, almost certainly at the direction of Putin. Navalny's poisoning and imprisonment under extremely harsh conditions most certainly set in motion his health issues that lead to his death.

“We Have A Problem: Children Want To Return To Russia!” Ukraine Admits That “Rescued” Children Want To Go Back

https://southfront.press/we-ha...ren-want-to-go-back

While you cite a very questionable source, lets assume that it is 100 % accurate. It would not be surprising that some children would form an attachment to their abductors. That's not unusual at all. So your argument seems to be that it is perfectly fine to abduct children at gunpoint from their families so long as the victims of the abduction form attachments to their abductors.

If you oppose any aid to Ukraine, I get that. But I am having difficulty understanding all of the excuses and denials of the atrocities committed by Putin and his thugs.

Enough with the bickering and the "show me the evidence" stuff, gentlemen.

I say let 'em both duke it out.
Both Putin and Zelenskyy are bad guys.
Some same Russia would prevail then, I say Zelenskyy is a master con-man and will get the money with or without the US's misguided philanthropy.
May the better crook win.

Zelensky Fires Security Chief As Defense Shake-Up Continues

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...ense-shake-continues

In an apparent continuing shake-up of his defense leadership, Ukraine's President Zelensky has fired the the head of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council (SNBO), Oleksiy Danilov.

A decree confirming his removal was published to the Ukrainian presidency's official website, however, it provided no reason or explanation for the decision. Danilov had been installed in the top national security office in October 2019.

The Kyiv correspondent for the Financial Times, Christopher Miller, has also confirmed the high level removal...

More at link

From the same article:

Likely it is too late for any major turn-around for Kiev forces, though the Zelensky administration has lately been teasing the potential for a large new military mobilization of hundreds of thousands, which is sure to be hugely unpopular and controversial among the Ukrainian population. Officials have indicated the military needs some 300,000 to 500,000 more men just to hold the front lines and stave off Russian advance.

My question:
If the military needs some 300,000 to 500,000 more men just to hold the front lines and stave off Russian advance... and if they are available, why weren't they recruited and sent a year ago, before it was too late?