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The Senate is working on Sunday to give Ukraine 60 billion and Gaza 9 billion. Guess they wanted to sneak one through while Americans were not looking. If only they were that dedicated to closing the U.S. border.


Senate advances $95 billion foreign aid legislation in rare Sunday vote

"I can't remember the last time the Senate was in session on Super Bowl Sunday," Leader Schumer said.

https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter

The U.S. Senate advanced a foreign aid package in a rare Sunday vote that puts the bill on track to pass later this week despite vocal opposition from conservative Republicans.

The 67-27 procedural vote Sunday brings the chamber closer to a vote on a $95 billion aid package, which includes $60 billion for Ukraine, $14 billion for Israel, $4.8 billion for the Indo-Pacific and $9 billion in humanitarian assistance in Gaza, the West Bank and Ukraine, per The Hill.

"I can't remember the last time the Senate was in session on Super Bowl Sunday," Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said before the vote Sunday, according to CBS News. "But as I've said all week long, we're going to keep working on this bill until the job is done."

Republicans have called for border security funding alongside foreign aid, and they released a bipartisan border security deal last week that the Senate GOP blocked days later following opposition from House Republicans and former President Donald Trump.

"Ukraine is dangerously low on supplies, including ammo and air defenses. If America doesn’t assist Ukraine, Putin is all too likely to succeed," Schumer said on the Senate floor.

"Our partners don’t have the luxury of pretending that the world’s most dangerous aggressors are someone else’s problem. And neither do we," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said after Schumer spoke. "It is no exaggeration to say that the eyes of the world are on the United States Senate."

If the bill makes it through the Senate, it still faces an uncertain fate in the House.

https://thehill.com/homenews/s...%20breaking%20senate


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Well whiskey tango foxtrot, at least they didn't spend it on our border. I guess no need to vote on a stand alone bill to stop the invasion on the southern border. Our legislators watching the southern border invasion, while sending money to the black hole called Ukraine, over consuming an afternoon martini on Super Bowl Sunday is well, all fucked up. I'm gonna go hit some golf balls at Top Golf and envision Mitt Romney's fucking head on every ball hit.
 
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The bill most likely doesn’t even get a vote on the house floor. Let’s see if Speaker Johnson has the nuts to not cave.


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Musk, Vivek, Vance, Sacks And Mike Lee Discuss "Impeachment Time Bomb" Hidden In Ukraine Funding Bill

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...-bomb-hidden-ukraine

On Monday, Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) shared a memo sent to his Republican colleagues in Congress which outlines an "impeachment time bomb" hidden in the text of the Senate's Ukraine funding bill in case Trump wins the November election.

President Trump has said, in regard to the war in Ukraine, "We got to get that war settled and I'll get it settled." He has stated that he would resolve the war in 24 hours.

The bill includes $1.6 billion for foreign military financing in Ukraine, and $13.7 billion for the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative. These funds expire on September 30, 2025 -- nearly a year into the possible second term of President Trump. These are the exact same accounts President Trump was impeached for pausing in December 2019.

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If President Trump were to withdraw from or pause financial support for the war in Ukraine in order to bring the conflict to a peaceful conclusion, "over the objections of career experts," it would amount to the same fake violation of budget law from the first impeachment, under markedly similar facts and circumstances."

According to Vance, Democrats "would seize on the opportunity to impeach him once again."



"This is insane," replied Elon Musk - who then arranged for a 'spaces' discussion on X which will include Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT), Vance, along with Vivek Ramaswamy and David Sacks, at 6PM E.T.

You can listen in by clicking into the post below: (Takes a few minutes to start)



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The Republican Plot Against Donald Trump

The inside story of how Congress is pursuing endless war in Ukraine—and trying to stop a Trump election.

https://www.theamericanconserv...op-a-trump-election/

This weekend, Senate Democrats (joined by a few Republicans, including most Republican leadership) forced through a “security supplemental” that spends close to $100 billion, most of it on Ukraine. It was the culmination of months of secretive negotiations on border security. Those negotiations produced a border security product unacceptable to most Republicans, so then Republicans voted it down, and then an hour later we were debating a security supplemental with border security stripped out.

The quick pivot, refusal to negotiate another round on border security, and immediate shift to blame Trump confirmed one thing: Republican leadership wasn’t serious about border security. They cared most about Ukraine funding and saw the border negotiations as a distraction. This extinguished any hope of real border security before the negotiation began.

The story our leadership tells is that the “politics of border security” had changed because of Donald Trump. James Lankford dutifully negotiated a bipartisan border product. Conservative Republicans encouraged this negotiation. When the product took shape, Donald Trump demanded conservatives walk. Trump argued that Joe Biden didn’t need a border security package—which was true—so Republicans should ask simply that Joe Biden do his job. This intervention allegedly killed a great piece of border policy.

This is a fairytale that makes conservative senators and Donald Trump look bad, perhaps by design. In truth, the demands conservative senators made at the beginning of the negotiation went like this: Joe Biden can fix this problem, but he refuses, so we must make him do his job. This posture came along specific demands from senators ranging from Ukraine aid supporters like Marco Rubio to Ukraine aid skeptics like me, and those in the middle like Ron Johnson. We argued that we could condition further Ukraine aid on decreased illegal border crossings. In other words, Congress would appropriate money to Ukraine in stages: if Biden refused to drive down border crossings, he wouldn’t get his money for Ukraine.

The deal, as envisioned by conservatives, was apparently never on the table. According to both Democratic colleagues and some Republicans, this is because Republican leadership—specifically Mitch McConnell—refused to push the Democrats on this issue. Other Republicans have argued instead that even if Mitch McConnell empowered Lankford to make this demand, Democrats would have never agreed.

Obviously, this latter view reflects more favorably on Mitch McConnell, but only by a little, because it suggests a massive asymmetry in negotiating leverage. If Democrats are desperate for Ukraine aid, and Republicans—at least the negotiating Republicans—are also desperate for Ukraine aid, border security would inevitably land on the chopping block.

Did Trump oppose a deal? He certainly opposed the deal that was on the table. It would have done little to secure the border in the future, would have been a massive political gift to the Democrats, and would constrain Trump’s border enforcement if he was ever elected president. This last point deserves extra emphasis: these bipartisan deals always seem to contain provisions that would put the next president, whoever that is, in a box.

Given its substance, it is hardly surprising that he opposed the deal, but most Republicans opposed the deal well before he weighed in—publicly or privately. In fact, the only conversation I had with Donald Trump about the border deal was a day after the text came out, well after I had opposed the bill’s headline provisions. “Why do you guys want to give these people such a gift? It’s stupid.” It was an accurate point, but it didn’t change anyone’s mind because most of us already agreed with the former president.

So the deal fell apart, and the way it fell apart was the height of political malpractice. The text—370 pages of it—dropped late Sunday, February 4. We had a Republican conference meeting on Monday, well before anyone had time to digest major provisions. McConnell left the meeting and praised the bill but criticized the changing political dynamics. He blamed Donald Trump. He blamed the House of Representatives.

It’s hard to imagine a more damaging political message: Hey everyone, we’ve got great bipartisan policy, but we’re going to kill it because the knuckle draggers don’t like it. It was a gift to Democrats and everyone knew it. Senate candidates across the country, many of whom are allies of Mitch McConnell, called me to complain bitterly of the predicament created by leadership in Washington.

Normally, spending bills go through months of review, committee markups, and hours of debate. The text of the Ukraine supplemental was distributed to Hill staff on Wednesday, February 7, and the first procedural vote was taken less than a day later. On February 5, many senators had emphasized the importance of doing something on the border before action was taken on Ukraine. Two days later, at least some of them had decided that fighting for border security for an hour had checked the box, and they were ready to move on to their real priority: funding for Ukraine. The bill will pass, albeit by a tiny margin, with a majority of Republicans opposing the bait and switch.

This current episode is finished, at least in the senate, but there will be many reruns. The form of this debacle will replay itself, to the great detriment of Donald Trump and other Republican candidates. Three facts are important. First, voters range from ambivalent to outright hostile of further Ukraine aid. Second, a subset of Republican senators are obsessed with Ukraine aid, caring about this issue more than any other. Third, a majority of House Republicans oppose further Ukraine aid, and demand strong border security measures regardless of the details of a Ukraine package.

It’s easy to sketch out how these facts will manifest themselves in our political reality. The senate Ukraine bill goes to the House, where leadership there cannot bring it up to the floor without endangering House Speaker Mike Johnson. So the House will either refuse to vote on the Ukraine bill, or will attach a strong border security bill (like HR2) and then send it back to the Senate. In public and private, Senate Republican leadership will undermine the House leadership and the Republican presidential nominee.

Democrats could try to force House leadership to bring up Ukraine aid with a discharge petition, an approach that would hand control of the House floor over to Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries with the aid of a few House Republicans. Speaker Johnson could fight this maneuver aggressively. If he does, he will be attacked by Senate Republican leaders, at least privately, and will face another negative news cycle. If he doesn’t, his own conference will turn against him. The cycle will replay over the government funding deadline in March. It will replay over the omnibus debate that follows. It will replay any time the U.S. Congress must actually do something.

Whatever shape this takes, the basic game will be the same. The media, obsessed with any story that makes Trump look bad, will blame him and “MAGA Republicans” in the House. They will blame Trump for the chaos. They will blame Trump for “extremism.” They will refuse to report on Biden’s failings and instead focus on internal Republican division. They will point to Republican senators attacking Donald Trump and House Republicans, just as they have over the last week. Democrats will run advertisements: “See, even Mitch McConnell thinks Trump is being ridiculous.” And they will rinse and repeat this narrative all the way to the November election.

This is how you save Joe Biden’s presidency: By taking the chaos of Joe Biden’s tenure and making it about Republican chaos being even worse. By taking the extremism of Democrats and making it all about the crazy right-wingers in the House and Mar-a-Lago.

To be clear, this doesn’t assume malice. The Republican establishment of Washington is so obsessively committed to Ukraine that they will use every tool at their disposal to apply pressure to other Republicans to write that big Ukraine check. The problem is that every time they apply pressure, they create an opening for Democrats and the media to tank our nominee.

For months, I have been confident that Donald Trump would be reelected as president. But this is how you snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The Republican establishment is going to war for more Ukraine money. They don’t care if a second Trump term is collateral damage.

But, of course, they have an insurance plan even if Trump pulls it off. Though few have noticed, buried in the bill’s text is a kill switch for the next Trump presidency. The legislation explicitly requires funding for Ukraine well into the next presidential term. The Washington Post has already reported this provision was added to control Donald Trump.

It gets worse. Back in 2019, Democrats articulated a novel theory of impeachment, based on Trump’s refusal to spend money from the USAI—Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative. Five years after impeaching Trump for refusing to spend money on Ukraine, they have drafted a new law that again requires Trump to spend money on Ukraine. If he negotiates an end to the war, as he has promised to do, they will undoubtedly argue that he has broken the law. We are nearly a year away from an election that could give Trump the presidency, and Ukraine-obsessive Republicans have already given the Democrats a predicate to impeach him.

Slava Ukraini, America be damned.


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Efforts to undermine Ukraine and Biden have gone swimmingly. The Ukrainian military is already suffering defeat on several fronts due to the ammo shortage. Hopefully this culminates with a decisive loss before the election and then Trump can hammer Biden for not doing enough to help Ukraine. It's dirty but this how you win elections.

Does a discharge petition have any chance of pushing the "aid" bill through?
 
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The Senate is working on Sunday to give Ukraine 60 billion and Gaza 9 billion. Guess they wanted to sneak one through while Americans were not looking. If only they were that dedicated to closing the U.S. border.


Senate advances $95 billion foreign aid legislation in rare Sunday vote

"I can't remember the last time the Senate was in session on Super Bowl Sunday," Leader Schumer said.

https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter

The U.S. Senate advanced a foreign aid package in a rare Sunday vote that puts the bill on track to pass later this week despite vocal opposition from conservative Republicans.

The 67-27 procedural vote Sunday brings the chamber closer to a vote on a $95 billion aid package, which includes $60 billion for Ukraine, $14 billion for Israel, $4.8 billion for the Indo-Pacific and $9 billion in humanitarian assistance in Gaza, the West Bank and Ukraine, per The Hill.

"I can't remember the last time the Senate was in session on Super Bowl Sunday," Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said before the vote Sunday, according to CBS News. "But as I've said all week long, we're going to keep working on this bill until the job is done."

Republicans have called for border security funding alongside foreign aid, and they released a bipartisan border security deal last week that the Senate GOP blocked days later following opposition from House Republicans and former President Donald Trump.

"Ukraine is dangerously low on supplies, including ammo and air defenses. If America doesn’t assist Ukraine, Putin is all too likely to succeed," Schumer said on the Senate floor.

"Our partners don’t have the luxury of pretending that the world’s most dangerous aggressors are someone else’s problem. And neither do we," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said after Schumer spoke. "It is no exaggeration to say that the eyes of the world are on the United States Senate."

If the bill makes it through the Senate, it still faces an uncertain fate in the House.

https://thehill.com/homenews/s...%20breaking%20senate
It’s amazing how incredible scummy these people are. I would love to hear their excuse for actually being irking on a Sunday.

We all know it was because people were will be distracted by the Super Bowl.
 
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It’s amazing how incredible scummy these people are. I would love to hear their excuse for actually being irking on a Sunday.

irking?
Working? Lurking?
No... I think you got it right. irking.
What does irking mean?
verb. Definition of irking. present participle of irk. as in annoying. to disturb the peace of mind of (someone) especially by repeated disagreeable acts.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer: Irking, together, on a Sunday.
Incredibly scummy.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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I think 1s1k means working




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^^^ You're probably right... but irking works too! Big Grin



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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it do.




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https://www.senate.gov/legisla...2_00048.htm#position

Senators who voted against the Bill to send money to Ukraine.

NAYs ---29

Barrasso (R-WY)
Blackburn (R-TN)
Braun (R-IN)
Britt (R-AL)
Budd (R-NC)
Cotton (R-AR)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Fischer (R-NE)
Graham (R-SC)
Hagerty (R-TN)
Hawley (R-MO)
Hyde-Smith (R-MS)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lee (R-UT)
Marshall (R-KS)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mullin (R-OK)
Paul (R-KY)
Ricketts (R-NE)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schmitt (R-MO)
Scott (R-FL)
Scott (R-SC)
Tuberville (R-AL)
Vance (R-OH)
Welch (D-VT)


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Rand Paul Gives His Perspective on the UniParty Ukraine Bill

Speaking to reporters February 12th, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) tore into Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) over his support for the $61 billion, Ukraine aid bill. Rand Paul notes McConnell is going to Ukraine on Friday.
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'Sen. McConnell Is Siding With Sen. Schumer': Rand Paul Hammers GOP Leader Over Foreign Aid Bill



https://theconservativetreehou...ne-bill/#more-255683

https://twitter.com/MattWalshB...arty-ukraine-bill%2F




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Senators who voted against the Bill to send money to Ukraine.



More telling is the list that voted for it.

John Boozman of Arkansas
Shelley Moore Capito of West Virginia
Bill Cassidy of Louisiana
Susan Collins of Maine
John Cornyn of Texas
Kevin Cramer of North Dakota
Mike Crapo of Idaho
Joni Ernst of Iowa
Chuck Grassley of Iowa
John Hoeven of North Dakota
John Kennedy of Lousiana
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky
Jerry Moran of Kansas
Lisa Murkowski of Alaska
James Risch of Idaho
Mitt Romney of Utah
Mike Rounds of South Dakota
Dan Sullivan of Alaska
John Thune of South Dakota
Thom Tillis of North Carolina
Roger Wicker of Mississippi


Some you expected BUT John Kennedy was really a disappointment!



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It seems to me that more and more Americans have become aware of the little grifter games being played by our legislators, and it looks like Twitter I SAID TWITTER is playing a key role in this heightened awareness. It sure as Hell isn't due to CNN, MSNBC, et al.

On the grand scale, Twitter is the only social media platform where the truth is allowed out, and there seems to be a fairly broad spectrum of the American public using it daily.

That's bad news for the grifters, whose asses have been covered for so many years by their apparatchiks in the "news media".
 
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The statement Putin made in the Tucker interview " What would the US do without a boogeyman ", tells a lot. Eek
 
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Looks like the 95 billion dollar aid package has passed 70 to 29. Russia was fearing Ukraine getting their 61 billion in weapons. Not a damn thing is being done about our border. Just additional funds to help settle illegals from begger country's.
 
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Senators who voted against the Bill to send money to Ukraine.
More telling is the list that voted for it.

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John Cornyn of Texas
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#1 PHUKKTARD of the Lone Star State. Mad Mad

Our resident "SEAL" is a close second.

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