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The remark – delivered with a car full of people listening on speakerphone – drew instant condemnation, but Trump said Wednesday morning that it was entirely made up.

'Democrat Congresswoman totally fabricated what I said to the wife of a soldier who died in action (and I have proof). Sad!' the president tweeted.




So, aside from looking like an organ grinder's monkey, the Florida congresswoman concocted this crap out of thin air? OK, I'll completely buy that. What's her position on the rotational stability of Guam?
 
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Unhinged doesn't fully explain what we are seeing from liberals. I can't believe our country has become so far out of whack that these things are commonplace.
 
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https://hotair.com/archives/20...sking-requests-name/

Someone within the Obama administration’s intelligence apparatus made requests to unmask the identity of Americans named in intelligence reports on behalf of Samantha Power, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

That’s what Power told the House Intelligence Committee last week during a closed-door interview.

South Carolina Rep. Trey Gowdy revealed in an interview on Fox News on Tuesday that Power was “emphatic” on the point that someone else in the Obama administration made the unmasking requests that have been attributed to her.

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CNN and the NY Times are reporting that the woman who raised the fallen serviceman was in the car with Rep. Wilson and confirmed her account of the conversation. The White House says there is no tape.

Why is this hard to believe? Trump isn't exactly careful with his words.
 
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CNN and the NY Times are reporting that the woman who raised the fallen serviceman was in the car with Rep. Wilson and confirmed her account of the conversation. The White House says there is no tape.

Why is this hard to believe? Trump isn't exactly careful with his words.


Suppose he is being quoted exactly? Why is that a problem?

To borrow a phrase from the movies, “This is the business we’ve chosen!”




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Suppose he is being quoted exactly? Why is that a problem?

To borrow a phrase from the movies, “This is the business we’ve chosen!”


Then why deny it?
 
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Suppose he is being quoted exactly? Why is that a problem?

To borrow a phrase from the movies, “This is the business we’ve chosen!”


Then why deny it?


Why not answer my question? I’m trying to analyse the various possibilities here, the most likely present one being something along the lines of Robert McCloskey, “I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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So how common is it for a Politician and their Press person to accompany a grieving widow to meet an Honor Flight?


I think it's a bit strange she was in the car with them as well unless they are democrats...
https://apnews.com/d3bf716591b...wed-%22disrespect%22
 
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Why not answer my question? I’m trying to analyse the various possibilities here, the most likely present one being something along the lines of Robert McCloskey, “I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”


Sure, I'll answer your question. The problem is that, while it might be true that he knew what he was signing up for, telling his pregnant widow-and-mother-of-two that is a callous act. It's further callous to add words to the effect of, "But I guess it hurts, anyway." And even worse, yet, to forget Sgt. Johnson's name during the conversation.

The call is supposed to have a tone of solemnity, gratitude, and to try to give some comfort to the family. This is just plain human decency that would be afforded between any strangers having such a conversation, let alone the CiC and a service family.

Addressing the McCloskey, quotation: this is a recurring theme with Trump. Everyone seems to misunderstand him. He's the most misunderstood president, ever. At what point is that his fault? Like I wrote earlier, he's not exactly careful with his words.
 
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The Congress critter has already changed her statement.

Can't quote her exactly because I was driving listening to the Savage Nation.


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Why not answer my question? I’m trying to analyse the various possibilities here, the most likely present one being something along the lines of Robert McCloskey, “I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”


Sure, I'll answer your question. The problem is that, while it might be true that he knew what he was signing up for, telling his pregnant widow-and-mother-of-two that is a callous act. It's further callous to add words to the effect of, "But I guess it hurts, anyway." And even worse, yet, to forget Sgt. Johnson's name during the conversation.

The call is supposed to have a tone of solemnity, gratitude, and to try to give some comfort to the family. This is just plain human decency that would be afforded between any strangers having such a conversation, let alone the CiC and a service family.

Addressing the McCloskey, quotation: this is a recurring theme with Trump. Everyone seems to misunderstand him. He's the most misunderstood president, ever. At what point is that his fault? Like I wrote earlier, he's not exactly careful with his words.


And you’re getting your info where, CNN?
 
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And you’re getting your info where, CNN?


My info about what decency is? That comes from my upbringing and conscience.

My info about what was said in the call? Multiple news sources who have video of the Rep. Wilson describing what happened and that quote the mother of the fallen serviceman.

Or is there some other info you're interested in?
 
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My info about what was said in the call? Multiple news sources who have video of the Rep. Wilson describing what happened and that quote the mother of the fallen serviceman.



And democrap politicians never lie. Oh, wait . . . . . .

Nor do they hesitate to set up conditions/situations where they can make yet another phony point against Trump.


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Why not answer my question? I’m trying to analyse the various possibilities here, the most likely present one being something along the lines of Robert McCloskey, “I know you think you understand what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”


Sure, I'll answer your question. The problem is that, while it might be true that he knew what he was signing up for, telling his pregnant widow-and-mother-of-two that is a callous act. It's further callous to add words to the effect of, "But I guess it hurts, anyway." And even worse, yet, to forget Sgt. Johnson's name during the conversation.

The call is supposed to have a tone of solemnity, gratitude, and to try to give some comfort to the family. This is just plain human decency that would be afforded between any strangers having such a conversation, let alone the CiC and a service family.

Addressing the McCloskey, quotation: this is a recurring theme with Trump. Everyone seems to misunderstand him. He's the most misunderstood president, ever. At what point is that his fault? Like I wrote earlier, he's not exactly careful with his words.


And you’re getting your info where, CNN?


it is easy to misunderstand President Trump when he is being wrongly quoted.
 
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And you’re getting your info where, CNN?


My info about what decency is? That comes from my upbringing and conscience.

My info about what was said in the call? Multiple news sources who have video of the Rep. Wilson describing what happened and that quote the mother of the fallen serviceman.

Or is there some other info you're interested in?
If you're basing anything whatsoever on the comments of Frederica Wilson, well then you're foolish to put it mildly This woman is first a moron, second a liar, and third a disgrace. And for the record, I have little to no confidence in the statements of the woman who raised the deceased Sargent.

The comment these nitwits seem so offended by, assuming the president 'did' make it, doesn't even rise to the level of insensitive let alone improper. I guess it would have been far better for president Trump to simply stand over the casket for a photo op like his predecessor did, then depart for a fundraiser.


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who dresses up like a Goddamned organ grinder's monkey
Not really knowing who Frederica Wilson is, I thought that you were going a little overboard with this remark.

Then, I did a Google image search.

Yup. Organ grinder's monkey.



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The comment these nitwits seem so offended by, assuming the president 'did' make it, doesn't even rise to the level of insensitive let alone improper.


So, that's the sort of thing you would say to a woman who just lost her husband?

Say you met the widow of a cop who had just died in the line of duty. You never met her before. You'd tell her that he knew what he'd signed up for but you guess it still hurts. That would be a proper comment?
 
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.... The problem is that, while it might be true that he knew what he was signing up for, telling his pregnant widow-and-mother-of-two that is a callous act. It's further callous to add words to the effect of, "But I guess it hurts, anyway." And even worse, yet, to forget Sgt. Johnson's name during the conversation.

The call is supposed to have a tone of solemnity, gratitude, and to try to give some comfort to the family. This is just plain human decency that would be afforded between any strangers having such a conversation, let alone the CiC and a service family.

Addressing the McCloskey, quotation: this is a recurring theme with Trump. Everyone seems to misunderstand him. He's the most misunderstood president, ever. At what point is that his fault? Like I wrote earlier, he's not exactly careful with his words.


To some, recognizing the sense of duty, courage, responsibility, that leads one to volunteer for such duty is a solemn appreciation, admiration of extremely laudatory qualities. I can’t recall being at a funeral of a warrior, or a retired former warrior in which such praise was not prominent.

I watched a good part of Attorney General Sessions dust up with Senators on the Judiciary Committee today. If there ever was a bunch of deliberate misunderstanders, it has to be those minority menbers still trying to parse Sessions’ earlier statements. Incredible!




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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showpro, you're just going to have to work out the last election on your own. You don't know what was said, but you want it to be true. You really want it to be true.
 
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showpro, you're just going to have to work out the last election on your own. You don't know what was said, but you want it to be true. You really want it to be true.


None of us know what was said; we weren't on the call. I don't particularly "want" it to be true. I have nothing to gain from that. But the eyewitness accounts aren't hard to believe, just from listening to Trump speak for over a year.

Which was my original question: why is this so hard to believe?
 
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