https://www.breitbart.com/poli...uct-mar-a-lago-raid/

"All of this is technically irrelevant anyway because Trump–who as president has original and absolute declassification authority–said he declassified all of these documents.

“Number one, it was all declassified,” Trump said on Truth Social moments ago.

“Number two, they didn’t need to ‘seize’ anything. They could have had it anytime they wanted without playing politics and breaking into Mar-a-Lago. It was in secured storage, with an additional lock put on as per their request.”"

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general comment - I had decades of experience w highly classified material. If there was a security concern at TS/SCI, there was immediate and aggressive action.

(yes H Clinton got a pass. That was one of the signs that the fix was in for Clinton)

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Does anyone honestly believe that Donald Trump was in possession of "nuclear secrets"? Whatever the fuck that means.

Picture of Oppenheimer inspecting the Trinity Site.

Some idiot on he clown news network suggested Trump had this stuff so he could share it with Putin.

Let's move beyond the warrant the affidavit to what I see as crucial questions that help explain the shit show.

The National Archives says the documents were marked TS or similar and Trump's defense is suggesting they were declassified in the past.


1. When were they classified TS? After Trump's people said they'd been declassified and then someone in the Administration reclassified them? It seems to be important to know.

2. If the documents were always TS then it should be easy to figure out what Trump still had and to sort out without this shit show and return them to the National Archives.

3. Is Trump saying that even as a FPOTUS he still retains classification authority and that allows him to declassify them?

4. Was the lock put on the door at the National Archives insistence to preserve the documents for this fight or that Trump could keep them but needed to secure them with an extra lock?

5. Are they substantively TS documents or are they ancillary and useless without beyond being linked to other TS documents?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Does anyone honestly believe that Donald Trump was in possession of "nuclear secrets"? Whatever the fuck that means.

This shit is so old after seven years. Are they expecting me to believe Trump had some nefarious plan to sell nuclear secrets to the highest bidder? Some kind of doomsday auction led by the evil orange man. Or was he going to pass them to his buddy Putin.

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Originally posted by Ironbutt:

So.....What's the holdup?

The Court has to order it released even if mutually agreed via court filing, and is not clear yet that the Trump attorneys have so filed.

FBI search warrant shows Trump under investigation for potential obstruction of justice, Espionage Act violations

https://www.politico.com/news/...-violations-00051507

A search warrant viewed by POLITICO reveals that the FBI is investigating Donald Trump for a potential violation of the Espionage Act and removed classified documents from the former president’s Florida estate earlier this week.

A receipt accompanying the search warrant shows that Trump possessed documents including a handwritten note; documents marked with “TS/SCI,” which indicates one of the highest levels of government classification; and another item labeled “Info re: President of France.” Also among the items taken from Mar-a-Lago this week: An item labeled “Executive grant of clemency re: Roger Jason Stone, Jr.,” a reference to one of Trump’s closest confidants who received a pardon in late 2020.

The warrant shows federal law enforcement was investigating Trump for removal or destruction of records, obstruction of justice, and violating the Espionage Act. Conviction under the statutes can result in imprisonment or fines.

The documents, set to be unsealed later Friday after the Justice Department sought their public disclosure amid relentless attacks by Trump and his GOP allies, underscore the extraordinary national security threat that federal investigators believed the missing documents presented. The concern grew so acute that Attorney General Merrick Garland approved the unprecedented search of Trump’s estate last week.

The disclosure of the documents comes four days after Trump publicly confirmed the court-authorized search of his Mar-a-Lago home by the FBI, marshaling his political allies to unleash fierce criticism of federal investigators. But the details in the warrant underscore the gravity of the probe — an unprecedented investigation of a former president for mishandling some of the nation’s most sensitive secrets.

Trump has claimed since Monday that he has cooperated with investigators from the National Archives and FBI for months and that the unannounced search was an unnecessary escalation. But after several rounds of negotiations in which materials were recovered by the Archives, federal investigators came to believe Trump hadn’t returned everything in his possession.

The search warrant, signed on Aug. 5 by federal magistrate judge Bruce Reinhart, revealed that dozens of items were seized, most of them described in vague terms like “leatherbound box of documents,” “binder of photos” and “handwritten note.”

Other items on the list indicate the presence of classified material, describing them as “miscellaneous top secret documents” and “miscellaneous confidential documents.”

Stone’s attorney Grant Smith said that the longtime Trump ally “has no knowledge as to the facts surrounding his clemency documents appearing on the inventory of items seized from former President Trump’s home at Mar-a-Lago.”

Shortly after 3 p.m., the Justice Department confirmed that Trump’s lawyers would not oppose the public release of the search warrant and underlying receipt of materials, which had already begun to circulate widely

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general comment - I had decades of experience w highly classified material. If there was a security concern at TS/SCI, there was immediate and aggressive action.

So why'd they wait 3 days after the warrant was signed?

So, while reading this thread we have Obama, Berger, Clinton, Gen. Petraeus, and now perhaps Trump. High level government officials all taking classified doc out of the sphere of security. Sometimes while in office and sometimes out the door. What are they doing? Why does this keep happening?

Ah yes, the Espionage act. That makes sense now. Because it has further been revealed that Donald Trump was housing a private server at Mar-a-Lago and hired a close associate to wipe it clean with computer software. The FBI also found government phones which were smashed to prevent evidence from being discovered.
Oh wait....

John Deutch skated for the same too.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:

FBI search warrant shows Trump under investigation for potential obstruction of justice, Espionage Act violations

Just as I suspected, this is all about disqualifying Donald Trump from running for president in 2024.

They are so frantic to find a way to stop him at any cost.

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Originally posted by Shaql:

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general comment - I had decades of experience w highly classified material. If there was a security concern at TS/SCI, there was immediate and aggressive action.

So why'd they wait 3 days after the warrant was signed?

Because on a Friday no one is paying any attention to the news.

Do you want to bury something? Release it on a Friday afternoon


Do you want the world to see something? Release it on a Monday morning.

These people are so patently transparent with all this bullshit it’s laughable.

Even if they were to convict him of a felony, that still would not prevent him from running for President. The Constitution lays out the qualifications and limitations for being President, not some stupid statute in the US Code.

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by Shaql:

quote:

general comment - I had decades of experience w highly classified material. If there was a security concern at TS/SCI, there was immediate and aggressive action.

So why'd they wait 3 days after the warrant was signed?

Because on a Friday no one is paying any attention to the news.

He's talking about the raid. Why did they wait three days to carry out the raid after the warrant was signed.

To that, your point may actually still be valid. They wanted the raid to be on a Monday.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:


To that, your point may actually still be valid. They wanted the raid to be on a Monday.

I was talking about the raid as well.

It was absolutely timed to hit the news cycle right in the beginning of the week. Hell, I’m shocked they didn’t just “happen” to have a CNN news crew there

warrant here:

file:///C:/Users/15402/Documents/1%20%20%20%20%20Temp/586754620-EXCLUSIVE-Warrant-and-Property-Receipt-from-Mar-a-Lago-Raid.pdf



property to be seized:




notice item c


https://www.breitbart.com/poli...uct-mar-a-lago-raid/

18 U.S.C. section 793, which deals with defense information;
18 U.S.C. section 1519, which deals with destroying federal documents; and
18 U.S.C. section 2071, which deals with concealing, removing, or damaging federal documents

Read me in so I can see.

I have sufficient Clarence.

What the fuck does TS/SCI mean to the POTUS?

Hillary Clinton sucked 60,000 emails off of a classified network. Each single email is a felony. Moving data to a unsecured server in her fucking closet open to the entire dark world online.



Then she smashed government phones with hammers. WTF people?

and Michael Hayden is calling for Trump to be executed....

I thought Hayden had aphasia.