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Get my pies
outta the oven!

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Now Germany has supposedly stopped Russian gas on the Nord Stream II, quick headline.

It’s kinda like having the two armies across the No-go zone, unintended consequences or misinterpretations are always a possibility.

I’m thinking the price of firewood just went up in Germany.


It was in the process of being certified to begin carrying gas and it cost the Germans 10 BILLION Euros to build and they just pulled the plug on the certification process.

I'm shocked frankly. They've just fucked their people and their economy, you know Russia is now going to turn off the other pipelines in a big FU, they get like 55%-60% of all their natural gas from the Russkies.

This is about to get bad for Europe.


 
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Certification hiatus … lmao … just as easy to recert. NO penalty and no impact.

We also new decades ago that Europe becoming dependent on Russian energy was just plain stupid. Time to reap what you sow.





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I'm shocked frankly. They've just fucked their people and their economy...


Well, Biden fucked them first when he slashed our domestic production. Before that, we were exporting to Germany. Now Germany has no choice but to rely on Russia.

Thanks, Biden.


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“Joe Biden” Wins World War Three

By James Howard Kunstler

One surmises that all the meshugas over Ukraine was designed as a distraction from the financial disorders now at hand.

Woo-wee, that was a close call, huh? But remind me: what was the war supposedly about? Protecting Ukraine’s hallowed border? Bwahahahaha…! Borders? We don’t care about no steenkin’ borders (especially our own border). Upholding the sacred honor of NATO? Really? Who exactly would be punished if the US tries to shut down the Nord Stream-2 pipeline that will send much-needed Russian natgas to gasless Germany? (Did you guess our NATO ally, Germany?) Would Germany suddenly discover that the pipeline is none of America’s business? I think so.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/20...ins-world-war-three/



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I would say he fucked us first.
 
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If the financial sanctions and freezing of accounts and Russian banks doesn't result in the desired result then who wins?

China

They've already been positioning themselves to be the new global currency to replace the US dollar. They won't refuse to do business with Russia, or just about anyone. As opposed to the situation with Russia we are toothless to act against Chinese financial maneuvers because we are so indebted to them.

Proverbs 22:7




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I’ll say it again, losing energy independence was the dumbest notion ever.





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Sounds like Russia has been planning the O2/22/2022 date at 4 AM for sometime.

02/22/2014 was embarrassing to Putin





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Ukraine 'invasion' not new: Russia has had troops in Donbas for 8 years, U.S. official admits

https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter

Amid charges from U.S. and foreign officials that Russia now has invaded eastern sectors of Ukraine, a senior administration official confirmed that Moscow has maintained forces inside the region for nearly a decade.

"Russian troops moving into Donbas would not itself be a new step," the official said. "Russia has had forces in the Donbas region for the past eight years."

The official made the comments during a background briefing with reporters on Monday, and spoke on the condition of anonymity.

The comments seem to contradict official White House declarations that by sending in troops to the region, Russian President Vladimir Putin launched an incursion against its western neighbor.

"This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine," President Joe Biden said on Tuesday from the White House.

Other politicians have echoed those terms when responding to reports that Putin sent forces into the separatist enclaves of Donetsk and Luhansk.

"Putin has launched an invasion that must be met with a crippling and sustained economic response," Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told constituents on Tuesday.

The U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, told members of the U.N. Security Council on Monday that Putin sent "peacekeepers" to Donbas as a “pretext" for invading all of Ukraine.

"He calls them peacekeepers," Thomas-Greenfield said of the troops. "This is nonsense. We know what they really are."

The Russian military, though, has been in eastern Ukraine since Russia absorbed Crimea, the senior administration official said. For the past eight years, the official noted, Moscow has denied what U.S. officials knew to be true, that Russian troops are stationed in Donbas.

"They're apparently now making a decision to do this in a more overt and open way," the official said. "But this has been the state of affairs in that region and a big part of why it has been so unstable since 2014."

Members of the U.S. military who have trained the Ukrainian armed forces say that they, too, have known about the Russian troops in Donetsk and Luhansk.

"Their presence is nothing new," one active duty American intelligence officer told Just the News. "We've seen artillery being used in Donbas. Rag-tag civilian rebels don't have artillery."

By ramping up the troop count inside Donbas, Russia no longer is keeping their presence a secret, the administration official said.

"Now Russia looks like it's going to be operating openly in that region, and we are going to be responding accordingly," the official said.


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Ukraine 'invasion' not new: Russia has had troops in Donbas for 8 years, U.S. official admits



They moved in when Obumbler was POTUS and he didn't do shit Roll Eyes


 
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Ukraine 'invasion' not new: Russia has had troops in Donbas for 8 years, U.S. official admits



They moved in when Obumbler was POTUS and he didn't do shit Roll Eyes


Yes; there is a shit ton of prologue to the re-taking of Ukraine.

Apparently there’s a full on cyber-attack and the Russians have shut down their embassy in Kyiv.





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If you really want to understand the reality of Ukraine read the the article connected to the link and click on the supporting articles it has highlighted....


Yeah, I skimmed over it and noticed the area my foreskin occupied, until the eighth day of my life, got snagged on "Trump was doing it all for the Jews" garbage, and skimmed to the end.

I see a rag (SPR organization) as very biased and with an agenda no matter how much they believe or claim otherwise.

They have a certain stink about them, and I have learned over my lifetime to recognize them before they recognize me.


Predictable biased garbage, to paint Ukraine, U.S. and others as the evil architects.

But certainly not anything to do with the Soviet Stalin Lite who has ordered nearly 250 troops in and around Ukraine.

Russia sent in troops to the Donbas region, and "set up shop", then created a "government", and the tensions, skirmishes, and then this bullshit "recognition of independence", the current "peacekeeping mission" that is seeing a larger scale and more rapid infilling of troops and material into the region while adorned with white flags, which is no less than cover for staging of forces for an attack.

They will push the Ukraine people to a point of retaliation, and the fact that it moves as fast as molasses should not be an indicator of intent.

Look at the garbage with the BLM, Antifa, and 11 years ago with the "Occupy" movements, and other events the anarchist, socialist and other flavors have done and been doing.

A great number support, or seemingly are not concerned enough to do anything of effect about it.

How do people think we, in this nation have fallen under the power and control of people with serious mental deficiencies, that this country has been held hostage in place and except for a few folks that make the news as "breakout zombies" by pushing back.

Imagine if the UK were Russia, and the US were Ukraine.

Would Americans permit, or agree to the UK taking the 13 colonies? No matter if the UK saw both the UK and the US as "one people".

Does anyone here see the two of us as "one people"? If so, flying the Union Jack in place of the American flag, and other "unifying" outcome would be OK?

No, we would take to arms and fight that, and wave the middle finger to the world that supports or allows it.

We certainly may not want or need to be the "police" in this "family affair", but we need to at least dig into the long history and understand why the disfunction, and if the beating is warranted and just.

I do not have an answer, and I do not know what we should or should not do. I am tired of "fighting wars", I am tired of the cost, and the carrying the memories of people lost.

But I do know that many innocent people will die, and knowing I once had means to "do a thing", and now, unable. That is a tough thing to realize.

Just remember, look at the lies and disinformation over the past few decades and how much all of us have been gamed, (by all players), and put that pair of glasses on when you look at this.

Soviet/Russian communists have killed over 100million people in just over 100 years of their existence. And they have exported that to others around the world that have killed an equal number, not to forget the many millions that perish directly and indirectly from communist rule.

How many have the Ukrainian people chalked up in that time?




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Anybody else see the irony of all the leaders meeting in Munich to discuss Ukraine?
Considering what happened in Munich in 1938.
Peace in our time.
Have we learned nothing?


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Anybody else see the irony of all the leaders meeting in Munich to discuss Ukraine?
Considering what happened in Munich in 1938.
Peace in our time.
Have we learned nothing?


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From the American Rifleman....


Can you guess when this was in the magazine?



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From the American Rifleman....


Can you guess when this was in the magazine?


1946?


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September 1946 to be exact



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Early days … simply early days.

After Ukraine will be the Baltics and Poland.

In the meantime China will take Taiwan.


What the hell is Joe Biden ever gonna do?





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What the hell is Joe Biden ever gonna do?

Tell our true warriors to GTFO of the military because they aren't woke enough? or too white? or don't want to be injected with a harmful substance?
Have another ice cream cone?



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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