Well now President Trump is urging Oz to "declare victory" even though the votes are still being counted, the race is very close, and no winner has been declared.

No, I don't think that's the right thing to do. I would say that even if i wanted Oz to win. Does this say something about President Trump when he suggests that Oz do this? Everyone has to decide that for themselves.

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
I'm still trying to get my head around the notion that we should be voting for the "right" candidate...even though we know they can't win.

That's just BS that they've been feeding you. Nobody "knows" anything. How do you know? Being hoodwinked by so-called experts into thinking only so and so candidate has a chance of winning is why we are where we are, the country being controlled the Uniparty maggots. Trump probably still has a bunch of bad people in his inner circle giving him bad advice picking some shitty candidates. There were absolutely no logical reasons to endorse this fake conservative Oz guy. As mentioned above, if he had all out thrown his weight behind Barnette, she most likely would have won. Then, let real game begin for November. Too bad, now we are stuck with either a total fraud or another globalist establishment elite to represent the GOP in PA. Sad.

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
I'm still trying to get my head around the notion that we should be voting for the "right" candidate...even though we know they can't win.

Patently ridiculous.

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Well now President Trump is urging Oz to "declare victory" even though the votes are still being counted, the race is very close, and no winner has been declared.

Apparently, Trump's reasoning for that is that it would then make it harder for Oz to get cheated out of his victory. Say what?

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Originally posted by 12131:

That's just BS that they've been feeding you. Nobody "knows" anything. How do you know? Being hoodwinked by so-called experts into thinking only so and so candidate has a chance of winning is why we are where we are, the country being controlled the Uniparty maggots. Trump probably still has a bunch of bad people in his inner circle giving him bad advice picking some shitty candidates. There were absolutely no logical reasons to endorse this fake conservative Oz guy. As mentioned above, if he had all out thrown his weight behind Barnette, she most likely would have won. Then, let real game begin for November. Too bad, now we are stuck with either a total fraud or another globalist establishment elite to represent the GOP in PA. Sad.

No, no. I'm not talking about what the polls say. I never pay attention to the polls. What I am talking about is when YOU know the person has no chance to win. A good example is here in Missouri, back in 2012 I think, Claire McCaskill was running against a guy named Todd Akin, the republican. That idiot said in a local interview with some news network that if a woman gets raped, she won't get pregnant because her body can just "shut that down". No, I am not making that up. Those comments were played over and over for months. Hell man, I knew he had no chance to win...none, zip. He didn't.

Balze Halze: Yup. Totally ridiculous.

^^^^ Every case is different and unique to themselves. What does the McCaskill/Adkin case have anything to do with the PA GOP primary senate race? Zero. Who knows who can or cannot win in this? If anyone said so, they are full of it. The left and right all tried to smear Barnette, and sadly, a lot GOP voters bought into that shit.

Dr. OZ decided to take Trump's advice and is now declaring that he won, despite the fact that the mail in ballots currently being counted are breaking for McCormick. Trump is on his Truth Social platform this morning declaring that all these mail in McCormick ballots are "fraudulent."
Seems like I might have seen this movie before.

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Originally posted by Fed161:
Dr. OZ decided to take Trump's advice and is now declaring that he won, despite the fact that the mail in ballots currently being counted are breaking for McCormick. Trump is on his Truth Social platform this morning declaring that all these mail in McCormick ballots are "fraudulent."
Seems like I might have seen this movie before.

So you think Biden got 81 million votes in an honest election?

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Originally posted by Bassamatic:
No, no. I'm not talking about what the polls say. I never pay attention to the polls. What I am talking about is when YOU know the person has no chance to win. A good example is here in Missouri, back in 2012 I think, Claire McCaskill was running against a guy named Todd Akin, the republican. That idiot said in a local interview with some news network that if a woman gets raped, she won't get pregnant because her body can just "shut that down". No, I am not making that up. Those comments were played over and over for months. Hell man, I knew he had no chance to win...none, zip. He didn't.

Except this is different. Todd Akin didn't have "no chance to win". If he had remained silent and gone to Florida between August and November he would have won. He had one really bad interview, which was a set-up. It made Charles Jaco's career. Akin never should have allowed himself to be drawn in like that. It was stupid. He should have said, I'm Pro-Life. End of story. Next topic.

BUT... Despite that mistake, I remember him fondly. He was a consistent conservative and had a strong voting record in Congress. Much better than the mushy Ann Wagner who replaced him.
Todd Akin, RIP

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So you think Biden got 81 million votes in an honest election? [/QUOTE]

I never drew that conclusion. I don't know how many votes Biden got, but I do know there were huge problems with the election that likely affected the outcome. I am very hopeful that some of the voter integrity laws that have been passed will help insure that elections are more fair and more honest. To borrow an expression, I'll put my cards out on the table. Do I think that there were "irregularities" or instances of voter fraud in the election. Yes I do. Do I think that every single allegation of fraud by Trump (in every single state where he says it happened) had merit. No I don't. I try to have an open mind. If you are convinced that Biden won "fair and square" I think you need to be open to honest facts that say otherwise. If you think that every single last one of the multiple allegations of fraud made by Trump had merit, I also think you need to be open to facts that say otherwise.

As a nation we need to have confidence that the results of elections are accurate. Right now we don't have that.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

Except this is different. Todd Akin didn't have "no chance to win". If he had remained silent and gone to Florida between August and November he would have won. He had one really bad interview, which was a set-up. It made Charles Jaco's career. Akin never should have allowed himself to be drawn in like that. It was stupid. He should have said, I'm Pro-Life. End of story. Next topic.

BUT... Despite that mistake, I remember him fondly. He was a consistent conservative and had a strong voting record in Congress. Much better than the mushy Ann Wagner who replaced him.
Todd Akin, RIP

Chellim: Yes, I do believe Akin would have won if he had not made that comment, but, the fact is...he DID make that comment, in a live interview on TV no less. That is why I said he had no chance to win. The sad thing is, he actually believed that. That was what Rush Limbaugh said the day after and I agree with it.

As the weeks went by every single female I know (including my very conservative wife) said there is no way they would vote for him after that. Hence, my conclusion that "he could not win".

I didn't really didn't know a lot about the man but sans that one comment I believe he was a solid conservative and most likely would have beat McCaskill. Shoot, I didn't even know he had died.

McCormick concedes

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...ce-to-dr-oz-n2608222

Early Friday evening Republican and former hedge fund manager David McCormick conceded to Dr. Mehmet Oz in the race to become the next U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania.

Dr. Freakin Oz. Unbelievable.

A Republican that is anti gun is no better than a democrat to me. I will remember this when November rolls around and be of no help to Oz (the only R on the ballot I can say that about).

Great, another WHORable RINO. Not what this country needs.

I have no idea what it was, but Trump saw things he liked in Oz. These politicians seem to be able to change on a dime.......maybe he will change for the better.

I think it's obvious that Trump supported Dr. Oz because he has always been drawn to celebrities. Same thing with Herschel Walker in Georgia. I don't think Trump's "advisers" are responsible for these selections.

Herschel Walker said he didn't want to run, but Trump convinced him. I'm hopeful Herschel can beat his opponent, but people I know in Georgia say there were stronger choices out there.

It could be as simple as Trump giving the finger to the R party or maybe OZ was the only one thought to be winnable. Any friend of Oprah's would be an auto NO vote, but the establishment R's have screwed us plenty

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maybe OZ was the only one thought to be winnable.

There was Oz and McCormick, but people are forgetting Barnette who took 24.7% of the vote. Oz got only 31.2% of the vote, but he did beat McCormick.

With the exception of Ohio, when there are multiple candidates, a Trump endorsement has only been good for around 30% in any state. I just find it hard to believe that OZ was the Republican's best choice,

Seems clear that the Republican party is the old Democrat party and the current Democrat party is the Communist party