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What a douche. I'd like to hear his take on military leaders' faith and confidence when barry was in office.

I can't believe what I just read. When I raised my right hand 30 years ago, I swore to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic". Nothing in there about helping the weak and oppressed around the world. I understand we have a humanitarian mission, but come on.

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We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate.

But, if we don’t care about our values, if we don’t care about duty and honor, if we don’t help the weak and stand up against oppression and injustice — what will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?

If our promises are meaningless, how will our allies ever trust us? If we can’t have faith in our nation’s principles, why would the men and women of this nation join the military? And if they don’t join, who will protect us? If we are not the champions of the good and the right, then who will follow us? And if no one follows us — where will the world end up?

So, basically, McRaven believes that the United States is the world cop, the world arbiter of good and evil, of freedom and equality everywhere. We are responsible for the entire world.

I disagree. Which is why I voted for Trump. America first.
McRaven may be a retired Admiral, but he doesn't seem to understand what the purpose of the United States military should be.

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unless Trump can find somebody to go after the deep state.

I don't think Barr is the answer here or certainly not Horowitz. Durham is the dark horse but he is controlled by Barr. On the other hand I get the feeling Trump knows something. He is getting more brash in his comments and speaks directly to the corruption and as in the Biden's names names. Not that he didn't before but it seems to have ramped up more recently.

Could be a product of ever increasing frustration or he knows something is going to drop. I don't see Trump leaving anything to chance so I'm assuming, hoping it's the latter.

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We are not the most powerful nation in the world because of our aircraft carriers, our economy, or our seat at the United Nations Security Council. We are the most powerful nation in the world because we try to be the good guys. We are the most powerful nation in the world because our ideals of universal freedom and equality have been backed up by our belief that we were champions of justice, the protectors of the less fortunate.

That's a cute sentiment, but no, that's not why we are the most powerful nation in the world. Seriously, what a jackass. Trump is destroying the Republic by not wanting to have American soldiers in every shithole country in the world? Get bent.

^^^ Lastmanstanding: Trump is bolder these days, but I see it differently. Only recently did he start using the word "coup" and only last week the word "communists." It should have been his AGs, not the president himself, to identify the coup. Likewise, identifying "commies." So I see Trump's bolder talk as the product of frustration.

Barr is Sessions II. I agree that Durham is the dark horse, and I continue to hold up hope. But, as you say, he answers to Barr, so Barr can squelch anything Durham might want to do.

Trump is confident that he will win reelection. In his second term he will can Barr immediately, and find a patriot with balls. He probably already has somebody in mind.

Bama, at first I had a WTF moment in reading your post, but then I dug into this military law journal that I dug up in my research. The first article is the one germane to this your point, and the 4th section (starting page 71 of the pdf) is specific on the subject of Article 88 and retired officers. It would be a hell of a thing to watch and an absolute circus.

https://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Mil...iles/175-03-2003.pdf

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“[W]hat will happen to the Kurds, the Iraqis, the Afghans, the Syrians, the Rohingyas, the South Sudanese and the millions of people under the boot of tyranny or left abandoned by their failing states?” McRaven asks, without explicitly calling for military intervention in any of the regions mentioned.

What will happen to them? Whatever is destined to happen to them, but ultimately, not one drop of US blood or one dollar of taxpayer money should be sacrificed in these areas of the world to keep the US military gravy train growing or to give politicians campaign topics. Enough is enough you POS. Trump (and all of us) get it, and you've been outed for exactly what you are.

All of this is very dangerous, and I do hope the President's security is beyind airtight. An assassin would feel not only entirely justified under the present conditions, but also feel as if they have the support of the entire country. I fear for President Trump's life.

I'm not trying to be dramatic and I wish I wasn't saying what I am saying, but there is a good chance that an attempt will be made on the man's life, and very soon.

These military leaders, current and past; these politicians of President Trump's own party; these vile propagandists cloaking themselves in the First Amendment while seeking to deny the common man those rights, and who attack the President on an hourly basis- these people are creating an environment that an individual or group will feel as if they have a duty to assassinate the President. The result would be that the country would burn, and the source would surprise all of those who hate the President and who hate this country.

We are walking barefoot on the edge of a razor. And though it sounds trite, I have to point out that it doesn't have to be this way. Everyone on this nation has reason to be happy. The poorest among us live like kings compared to the poor in other nations. The economy is going like gangbusters, people are working and we are not embroiled in war abroad. and yet, the left and people like McRaven and Bush want to tear it all down.

All of this is pushing us towards a conflict which I now know is inevitable, but which I thought was perhaps a decade or two away. They just keep pushing us and pushing us. The people of this nation want peace, but we shall take only so much of this. The left is not blind. They have their eyes closed, and if they keep this up, we shall force open their eyes and let them see how things truly are.

This reminds me of JFK and his decision to pull out of Vietnam. Much of the military-industrial complex wanted that war to keep going, and keep the dollars flowing. Well, JFK was shot and the USA went into a long slide for decades. We are just now getting out of it, and we have Trump to thank for everything.

The people who want these wars to keep going remind me of a hungry wild animal, which is getting desperate.

Regarding AG Barr, I think he is holding his cards close and will eventually be prosecuting more than a few individuals. I would not count him out at all, Trump knows what he is doing and most likely is waiting until he has "all his ducks in a row".

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AJ Barr didn't come out of retirement for child's play. My understanding is that he is very thorough in his work and it takes time.

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Originally posted by 41:
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AJ Barr didn't come out of retirement for child's play. My understanding is that he is very thorough in his work and it takes time.

"The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they turn exceedlingly fine".

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Originally posted by c1steve:
This reminds me of JFK and his decision to pull out of Vietnam. Much of the military-industrial complex wanted that war to keep going, and keep the dollars flowing. Well, JFK was shot and the USA went into a long slide for decades. We are just now getting out of it, and we have Trump to thank for everything.

JFK wasn't assassinated because he wanted to pull out of Vietnam. The disaffected white trash loser whose mentaly ill mother screwed his head up when he was a child and who never had a single happy moment in his entire life, didn't shoot JFK for any rational reasons. He just wanted to be famous. He got his wish, but Oswald wasn't bright enough to comprehend geopolitical issues. He was just unhappy, homicidal garbage.

The situation in which we find ourselves now is that we live in a time where the only time when the US was more divided than it is now was the Civil War and the years immediately preceding the Civil War.
If you wish to draw a comparison about a climate ripe for assassination of President Trump, it would be the 1860s and Lincoln's assassination. The comparion is apt- a huge portion of the nation hated the sitting president, and all it took to change history was one lone nut.
The most dangerous thing in the world is a man with nothing to lose. This nation is overflowing with these insane types right now, and all they need is an opportunity.

The amount of money that changes hands-- that greases palms-- when we are at war is staggering. These mind boggling sums began in the Civil War, along with the attendant corruption. Check out Lincoln's first Secretary of War sometime, Simon Cameron. So, there is a lot of incentive in the "military-industrial complex" to fan the flames of war.

I have not even wanted to mention the danger President Trump faces. And I hate to even think about the aftermath. I don't pray in any orthodox fashion, but in my own way I have been praying a lot these days.

And c1steve and 41, for a long time I believed what you are saying about Barr when it was said of Jeff Sessions. Believe me, *nothing* would make me happier than to be proven wrong about Barr. But, look, we all sense this: everything is ramping up. Time is of the essence. If he were serious, we would have seen something long ago. This is no time to fart around.

Trump litigation team sends letter to CNN

identifies biased reporting, cites the recent Veritas videos, and asks for an "appropriate resolution" including "a substantial payment of damages"

https://twitter.com/JarradKush.../1185234820269371394

note: this twitter acct is not the real Jared Kushner

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Originally posted by 41:
AJ Barr didn't come out of retirement for child's play. My understanding is that he is very thorough in his work and it takes time.

"The wheels of justice turn slowly, but they turn exceedlingly fine".

I have had a bellyful of waiting. All the good people of this nation ever do these days is to wait and to be told to keep waiting. Wee were told tht teh IG report would would be released today, but that was a lie, too. Oh, we have to spend time "redacting" this and that from it. What will the next excuse be? Something more creative, I hope.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

So, basically, McRaven believes that the United States is the world cop, the world arbiter of good and evil, of freedom and equality everywhere. We are responsible for the entire world.

It's worse than that. Not only does he believe all that. He also believes that a duly-elected president should be removed from office for no other reason than having a different view on the matter. Screw the 60+ million Americans who voted for him and the policies he is following.

It's the liberal mindset in a nutshell. "We are the elite and we know best. Anyone who disagrees is not just wrong, but evil and unfit for office."

I used to respect McRaven, but now I just think he is another swamp creature.

Para two key points you have made today are the possible Trump assassination no IG report of which both have been on my mind as well.

I am also fearful that an attempt will be made on his life. Which is the only way the dems can stop him.

Secondly the promises that big things are going to happen and soon with Barr and all this investigation. Time is running out to get anything done IMO. The only thing i can reason for is it all happening at or around election time so that it is all fresh and has no time to be forgotten or covered up with dem bs.

McRaven can kiss my ass, he needs to be busted down to potato peeler.

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Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa:
Para two key points you have made today are the possible Trump assassination no IG report of which both have been on my mind as well.

I am also fearful that an attempt will be made on his life. Which is the only way the dems can stop him.

Secondly the promises that big things are going to happen and soon with Barr and all this investigation. Time is running out to get anything done IMO. The only thing i can reason for is it all happening at or around election time so that it is all fresh and has no time to be forgotten or covered up with dem bs.

Not just democrats, there are plenty of globalist republicans who want President Trump stopped.

An investigation this big, reaching so deep into the crevasses of corruption, will take a long time before we see the results we want. I'm tired of waiting too, guess we'll have to wait some more.

In the meantime I'll enjoy watching the Trump rallies....WOO HOOO MAGA 2020!!

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All of this is very dangerous, and I do hope the President's security is beyind airtight. An assassin would feel not only entirely justified under the present conditions, but also feel as if they have the support of the entire country. I fear for President Trump's life.

I have been thinking the same thing for about the last year or so. I am very concerned that some guy (I suppose one shouldn't rule out a gal) brainwashed and convinced that they are the only hope for the world decides to trade their life for his.

Gosh, that scares me, sickens me and makes me mad as the dickens.

Being concerned about the security surrounding the President, and their integrity is not too far fetched.

I mean, come on now-who really thought that there was a part of our government, including the FBI that would engage in and support an attempted coup?

I sincerely hope and pray our President stays safe till Inauguration Day of 2025 when his successor takes office.

Bob

Erdogan: Turkey Won't Forget Trump's 'Tough Guy' Letter

Friday, 18 October 2019 08:47 AM Turkey's president says his country "cannot forget" the harshly worded letter from U.S. President Donald Trump about the Turkish military offensive into Syria.

But he added that the mutual "love and respect" between the two leaders prevents him from keeping it on Turkey's agenda.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Friday made his first comments concerning the Oct. 9 letter from Trump, in which among other things he warned Erdogan not to be a "tough guy."

Speaking to foreign journalists in Istanbul, Erdogan said that Turkey would "do what's necessary" concerning the letter "when the time comes." He did not elaborate.

Erdogan said: "President Trump's letter, which did not go hand in hand with political and diplomatic courtesy, has appeared in the media. Of course we haven't forgotten it. It would not be right for us to forget it."

Turkish troops and Turkish-backed Syrian fighters launched their offensive against Kurdish militias in Syria a week ago. That came two days after Trump suddenly announced he was withdrawing American troops from the border area.

Turkey agreed with the United States to pause its offensive in Syria for five days to let Kurdish-led forces withdraw.

Erdogan also denied reports of ongoing clashes in northeastern Syria a day after the cease-fire deal was announced.

He also said he had informed Trump about the offensive in a phone call a day before launching it. LINK [formatting added]

He seems right that the time will come.

Erdogan didn't consult about going into Syria. Erdogan announced he was going in.