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I too fear things are going to get very bad in Afghanistan.

American hostages. U.S. paying to get people back. Brutal, barbaric tyranny to the country

It will once again provide large scale training and staging areas for terrorism. Complete w weapons and material we left there.

As the taliban enforce sharia law, it may "enlighten" the American public how dangerous it is to let people who practice that religion into our country and even our elected officials.
 
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What is Potato Joe gonna do when the taliban starts sawing off the heads of American Citizens in AFG?

It’s coming.


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Keep seeing that in addition to all of the weapons and equipment left behind, there are pallets and pallets with millions in one hundred dollar bills...

What?

Why would that be there in the first place, if not for the taliban or whomever to have?

WTF?



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in addition to all of the weapons and equipment left behind, there are pallets and pallets with millions in one hundred dollar bills.
Damn! I was wondering where I left those pallets. Looked all over for them.



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there are pallets and pallets with millions in one hundred dollar bills...



Cash is king. When we got underway and had to pull into foreign ports, no one takes American Express. And they have fleecing down to a science.
We had a port entry fee,
Pier fee,
Trash fee,
Electric hook up fee,
Electric,
Potable water,
Sewage fee, etc

Easily spent $10k in a Caribbean nation just for a weekend of liberty..and those are 1990s dollars.

I image there’s a lot of having to bribe anyone to get stuff done over there.



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An opinion piece from The Wall Street Journal.
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A Taliban 9/11
Joe Biden rushed the Afghanistan pullout for a political speech he wanted to give.

What on earth will Joe Biden say this Sept. 11? We know what he planned to say. He hoped to use the 20th anniversary to proclaim himself the president who had succeeded in doing what none of his predecessors—George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Donald Trump—could: end the “endless war” in Afghanistan. The purpose of the artificial deadline was to provide Mr. Biden a dramatic backdrop for the speech he wanted to give.

The bungled exit has scuttled that plan. Worse, it has forever surrendered 9/11 to the Islamist fundamentalists. It is now what they meant it to be in 2001: their day of victory.

Part of this victory belongs to al Qaeda, which seared the date 9/11 into America’s memory. Today al Qaeda’s leaders have regained the haven that they used to plan and carry out the 9/11 attacks, under the same Taliban hosts who refused to give them up even after President Bush declared the U.S. wouldn’t distinguish between the terrorists who attacked us and those who harbored them. The Taliban victory is bigger still. Over the weekend, propaganda attributed to the Taliban’s Badri 313 unit featured a photo of its fighters, clad in captured American gear, raising the Taliban flag in a parody of the iconic World War II image of Marines raising the Stars and Stripes on Iwo Jima’s Mount Suribachi. They intend to rub it in.

And why not? They won.

Back on the home front, some are arguing that it is only the botched execution, not the decision to retreat itself, that is at issue. Some further accuse President Biden of eliding responsibility by deliberately conflating the two, which he did again Sunday by emphasizing how “absolutely correct” he was in making the call to bug out.

But there is a cheaper argument about what went wrong, embedded in throwaway lines like “20 years of failure.” U.S. mistakes in Afghanistan were real, numerous, and often costly. But to write off the entire enterprise as a failure because Afghanistan didn’t transform itself into Belgium in 20 years is not serious.

Yes, there was too much optimism about remaking Afghanistan as a liberal democracy. But a more modest measure of success might yet acknowledge there is something to be said for staving off the worst—a Taliban victory. Just as we have managed in Korea, where we have 28,500 U.S. troops and there is still officially a “forever war” going on between North and South.

For as corrupt and incapable as the Afghan government was, it was a significant improvement over its predecessor— and now its successor. Not to mention Afghan women and girls whose lives are about to return to pre-medieval times. Whatever the waste and foolishness on America’s part, it’s doubtful those desperate Afghans climbing the walls at Kabul airport would be as quick to dismiss it all as 20 years of failure.

Not to mention the hit to U.S. credibility. Our most important military alliance— NATO—stands broken and discredited by the man who campaigned as the seasoned expert in diplomatic affairs. Armin Laschet, who is favored to become the new German chancellor, called the pullout a “debacle.” In the U.K., a House of Commons debate featured adjectives like “shameful” and “cruel and humiliating.” This from our friends.

On Sunday the president absurdly claimed that Moscow and Beijing read our graceless exit from Afghanistan as somehow enhancing U.S. capabilities and resolve elsewhere. To the contrary, Xi Jinping is quickly moving to replace U.S. influence in Afghanistan with China’s. And Vladimir Putin is acknowledging what he thinks of Mr. Biden’s resolve by telling the U.S. not even to think of relocating some of our forces in neighboring countries that he considers part of Russia’s sphere of influence.

So a question for those who still believe Mr. Biden was right to pull us out: Do they also believe his assurances that our loss of on-the-ground intelligence, an air base in a strategic part of the world, and an ally instead of an enemy in Kabul will all be compensated for with “over the horizon” capabilities?

No doubt most Americans have always wanted our men and women in uniform to come home. But the American people aren’t children.

It’s a pity that so few of our political leaders have been willing to make the hard argument that a continued presence in a highly strategic area might pay the kind of dividends our continued presence in, say, Germany, Japan and South Korea have. Especially given that U.S. combat responsibilities in Afghanistan had largely ended and the residual force would have been a fraction of the more than 100,000 troops we had there a decade ago (the Afghanistan Study Group suggested 4,500).

In three weeks we will mark the 20th anniversary of the deadliest attack on America’s home soil. Those who gave shelter to the terrorists who pulled it off will be whooping it up in Kabul. What on earth can Joe Biden’s speechwriters come up with now that won’t make it worse?

By William McGurn

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What is Potato Joe gonna do when the taliban starts sawing off the heads of American Citizens in AFG?

It’s coming.



Absolutely nothing, stamp his feet and shuffle back to his room. This is the most feckless, coward and cheat we have ever had in the White House.
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...-in-kabul/ar-AANGDxj

CIA director held secret meeting with Taliban leader in Kabul

CIA Director William Burns met with the Taliban's de facto leader in Kabul on Monday, a source familiar with the situation said, in what marks the group's highest-level encounter with the Biden administration since the fall of the Afghan capital.

News of the meeting between Burns and the Taliban leader, Abdul Ghani Baradar, comes one week before the August 31 deadline for the U.S. military to complete its evacuation of Americans and Afghan allies from Kabul.

Baradar, a longtime Taliban official, was arrested by the CIA in a joint operation with Pakistan's intelligence service in 2010 in Karachi. He went free in 2018 after the U.S. pushed for his release while starting talks with the Taliban.

Burns is the first career diplomat to lead the CIA, having served as deputy secretary of state from 2011 to 2014 after spending more than three decades at the State Department. In his memoir, "The Back Channel," he describes the secret bilateral talks he led with Iran during the Obama administration alongside Jake Sullivan, now President Biden's national security adviser. The talks eventually paved the way to the nuclear deal with Tehran.
 
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At this point, once we've saved the people we can save and the remaining citizens and allies have had their fates sealed. I suggest we bomb the shit out of any assets we still know the location of and fund a guerilla war against the Taliban. This will burn through their munitions and keep them too busy to sponsor much terrorism.



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So... The CIA Chief meets with the Taliban Chief.
To what purpose? And with what results?
From my point of view, meeting with these people and negotiating with them lends them a legitimacy they do not deserve. Other than setting up some type of agreement (backed up by force) for getting the remaining Americans out of the country, the only meeting we should have with them isto ask where they would like their next B-1 strike delivered!


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So... The CIA Chief meets with the Taliban Chief.
To what purpose? And with what results?

I'd guess to offer bribes (as in pallets of crisp benjamins).
 
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So... The CIA Chief meets with the Taliban Chief.
To what purpose? And with what results?

I'd guess to offer bribes (as in pallets of crisp benjamins).


Same approach as used to get the nuclear deal with Iran. Following the play book.
 
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Biden just told G7 he’s tucking tail and leaving by August 31 instead of telling those dirty goat rapists to go fuck themselves Frown

All the blood of the Americans and other allies that will not make it out plus all the Afghan support people is on HIS hands now.

Damn. What a goddam pussy Mad


 
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I’m watching the Pentagon press conference being held by Pentagon Press Secretary Admiral John Kirby and Joint Staff Regional Ops Director Major General Hank Taylor.

In a few cases, it surprisingly looks like a few reporters are trying to commit acts of journalism. But most questions are softballs, and Kirby and Taylor are over-complicating even the easiest answers. I think Taylor has used the term “through-put” a dozen times in 45 minutes.

The attempts by Kirby and Taylor to answer those questions makes them look like two outfielders both calling for a lazy fly ball, then yelling “You got it!” and letting it drop for a hit while the Taliban circle the bases.

What a maddening example of Doublespeak.
 
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So... The CIA Chief meets with the Taliban Chief.
To what purpose? And with what results?
From my point of view, meeting with these people and negotiating with them lends them a legitimacy they do not deserve. Other than setting up some type of agreement (backed up by force) for getting the remaining Americans out of the country, the only meeting we should have with them isto ask where they would like their next B-1 strike delivered!


Well, “Jack Ryan” did meet with “Ernesto Escobido” in “Clear & Present Danger” and worked out a deal to release captive Americans. Maybe he’s just following the same script...err “playbook”. Roll Eyes


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Biden just told G7 he’s tucking tail and leaving by August 31 instead of telling those dirty goat rapists to go fuck themselves Frown

All the blood of the Americans and other allies that will not make it out plus all the Afghan support people is on HIS hands now.

Damn. What a goddam pussy Mad


Heard the same from another news source. According to them, Biden said he won't move the date under any circumstances. What a piece of shit. Biden gives shit a bad name.

I hope the Dems get wiped out in the midterms. Right now it's really the only thing we can do. I know Sigforum members are politically engaged and will do the right thing election day. But if you know any moderates who may have voted Dem last election, I think some can be persuaded. The majority of Americans think we are headed in the wrong direction. If you vote Democrat this time, you are no longer voting against the guy with the mean tweets. You are voting to continue this disaster of high crime, high taxes, open borders and gross incompetence and failure in Afghanistan. And betrayal and abandonment of Americans.
 
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Biden just told G7 he’s tucking tail and leaving by August 31 instead of telling those dirty goat rapists to go fuck themselves Frown

All the blood of the Americans and other allies that will not make it out plus all the Afghan support people is on HIS hands now.

Damn. What a goddam pussy Mad


Heard the same from another news source. According to them, Biden said he won't move the date under any circumstances. What a piece of shit. Biden gives shit a bad name.

I hope the Dems get wiped out in the midterms. Right now it's really the only thing we can do. I know Sigforum members are politically engaged and will do the right thing election day. But if you know any moderates who may have voted Dem last election, I think some can be persuaded. The majority of Americans think we are headed in the wrong direction. If you vote Democrat this time, you are no longer voting against the guy with the mean tweets. You are voting to continue this disaster of high crime, high taxes, open borders and gross incompetence and failure in Afghanistan. And betrayal and abandonment of Americans.


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The truth is he's had since January to get things in motion for the pull out and he's clearly done nothing.
August 31 is a week away and even September 11 less than 2 weeks later but that wouldn't have been enough time for an orderly withdrawal, even if there was a plan.
Now we've still got a lot of people over there packed into an airport that will need to be taken out with all sorts of hostile forces around the perimeter.
I am dreading what we will see in the next couple of weeks and especially the last few days.


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Keep seeing that in addition to all of the weapons and equipment left behind, there are pallets and pallets with millions in one hundred dollar bills...

If its the video I think you're referring to, my understanding is that video clip is from a cartel boss' stash somewhere in Latin America.
 
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In reference to the above WSJ opinion piece, what does Biden say on the anniversary of 9/11?

"Sorry."

How soon before the Chinese are invited to use Bagram AFB to fly cargo jets in and out with precious metals?


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