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You think Joe Biden is good for another three and a half years of this? He's losing his mind right in front of this nation. He's not going to make it to the end of his term.
I've been thinking about this all weekend. Here's my question to you. Is Biden more of an asset to the Left (who's actually running the government) being the mindless sock puppet he is, or a liability given he's the figure head that all the world's anger is being aimed at? Essentially, will the Left fight to keep him in office because he's 100% controllable, or opt to help remove him, which would damage the Dem party severely? Personally, I think the Dem's are so corrupt at this point they'll do whatever they can to prop up that urine soaked relic through the remainder of his term no matter what happens, assuming that's even possible.


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I’m hoping the dims have taken independents for granted.
 
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You think Joe Biden is good for another three and a half years of this? He's losing his mind right in front of this nation. He's not going to make it to the end of his term.
I've been thinking about this all weekend. Here's my question to you. Is Biden more of an asset to the Left (who's actually running the government) being the mindless sock puppet he is, or a liability given he's the figure head that all the world's anger is being aimed at? Essentially, will the Left fight to keep him in office because he's 100% controllable, or opt to help remove him, which would damage the Dem party severely? Personally, I think the Dem's are so corrupt at this point they'll do whatever they can to prop up that urine soaked relic through the remainder of his term no matter what happens, assuming that's even possible.

You cannot stop the relentless progression of dementia. This guy is deteriorating rapidly in front of the entire world.


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Joe- buddy boy, you are fucked. Yeah, keep laughing it off, you fool.

I hated Barack Obama when he was in office, but it's nothing compared to what I harbor for this asshole who listens to NO ONE, who deflects EVERY QUESTION, who SHITS on our allies, and who LIES to the American people each time he opens his mouth. Gotta go, Joe. You gotta go.

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Gutless Hayden only said/re-tweeted that because he's no longer General.

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The guy had a CVA which left him with issues. Perhaps this is the cause. In any case it was inapproriate.
 
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I don’t care if he has dementia, syphilis, or mental retardation.

What I do care about is no one has the intentional fortitude to go rescue our citizens and allies in Afghanistan.
 
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I've watched several of the press conferences this week, and I watched today's Sunday press conference on CSPAN.

I noticed the disingenuous dismissive smile by President Biden when asked whether he trusted the Taliban and again about the recent poll showing a majority no longer seeing him as competent or effective. It's nothing more than Biden's version of Harris' dismissive cackling.

Just as with his earlier press conferences, he already had a list of the reporter's names that he would take questions from as well as a list of the answers he would give... one small but noticeable difference is that the questions from today's slate of reporters were from a new crop, and the questions that were accepted weren't quite so pointed, so probing, so confrontational as they were even just a couple days ago.

The press conference questions earlier in the week from news sources such as NPR, ABC, and Bloomberg and a couple others resembled actual non-biased probing journalism, but the knives were blunted for today's questions. It will be interesting to watch the next few press conferences to see whether this was an anomaly, or if the press is backing off their criticism of him.
 
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I'm having a hard time believing that this was printed in the Atlantic but, its a damn fine read.
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Liberal Democracy Is Worth a Fight
Not all battles can be won with language, arguments, conferences, or diplomacy.

By Anne Applebaum

Of all the empty, pointless statements that are periodically repeated by Western politicians, none is more empty and pointless than this one: “There can be no military solution to this conflict.” That was what Ban Ki-moon, then the UN secretary-general, said back in 2013: “There is no military solution to the conflict in Syria.” John Kerry, then secretary of state, echoed those same words—“No military solution to the conflict in Syria”—on many occasions, including in 2013 and again in 2015. Zalmay Khalilzad, the U.S. special representative for Afghanistan, said this on August 3: “We believe there is no military solution” in Afghanistan. “Ultimately, for Afghanistan to have peace and stability there needs to be a negotiated political settlement.” Even British Prime Minister Boris Johnson repeated this, solemnly, in July: There is “no military path to victory for the Taliban.”

The phrase sounds nice, but it’s not true. In many conflicts, probably Syria and certainly Afghanistan, there is a military solution: The war ends because one side wins. One side has better weapons, better morale, more outside support. One side has better generals, better soldiers, more stamina. Or, sometimes, one side is more willing to use violence, cruelty, and terror, and is more prepared to die in order to inflict violence, cruelty, and terror on other people.

Peace negotiators, experts in conflict prevention, UN officials, European Union officials, and myriad American and international diplomats don’t want to believe that this is true, because it doesn’t reflect the values of the world that they inhabit. They don’t know any Taliban fighters, Hezbollah militants, or Russian mercenaries and can’t imagine what the world looks like from their point of view. But violent extremists, contrary to the popular image, can be quite rational: They can calculate exactly what they need to do to win a battle, or a war, which is precisely what the Taliban has just done in Afghanistan. There was a military solution, and the group has been waiting for a long time to achieve it. Now it will convert the violent extremism of its movement into a violent, autocratic, tyrannical state.

The need to prevent this from happening in other places—to prevent violent extremists from invading places where people would prefer to live in peace and in accordance with the rule of law—is precisely why we have armies, weapons, intelligence agencies, and spies of various kinds, despite all of the mistakes they make and the ugly things they sometimes do. The need to prevent violent extremists from creating structures like al-Qaeda or rogue, nuclear-armed regimes is precisely why North Americans and Europeans get involved in distant and difficult conflicts. That’s why the U.S. has military bases in Germany, South Korea, and Kuwait, among other places. That’s why even the Dutch were persuaded to set up a base in Afghanistan, which I visited in 2008 (and which even then seemed pretty precarious).

hat’s also why the phenomenon of liberal internationalism—or “neocon internationalism” if you don’t like it—exists: Because sometimes only guns can prevent violent extremists from taking power. Yet many people in the liberal democratic world, perhaps most people, don’t want to believe this. They have long found these tools either too distasteful or too expensive. Like Ban Ki-moon and his many imitators, they sometimes even pretend that these tools are not necessary at all, because conflicts can be resolved by “talks” and “dialogue” and “cultural exchange.” They pretend that there are always peaceful solutions that have somehow not been considered, that there is always a nonviolent answer that has somehow been ignored, and that “solidarity” with the women of Afghanistan, without a physical presence to back it up, is a meaningful idea. “Hang in there sisters!” wrote the Greek economist Yanis Varoufakis, in a tweet that celebrated the fall of “liberal neocon imperialism” and unwittingly illustrated just how delusional the anti-war left has become. Hang in there, sisters? The fall of Kabul makes a mockery of that kind of language and shows up those who use it as fools.

Many will argue, in the coming days, that Afghanistan was not in fact an American defeat or a Western defeat, and in a sense they are right. The U.S. did not surrender; it lost patience and decided to leave. Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and former President Donald Trump signed a deal, announced the withdrawal of troops, and then began to withdraw them. President Joe Biden simply completed that task. But the pictures from Kabul tell a different story, one that isn’t just about decisions made by Biden or Trump, or anything to do with U.S. politics at all. The story is this: A theocratic, misogynistic, militaristic organization is rapidly destroying whatever elements of liberal society managed to take root in Afghanistan during two decades of “neocon imperialism.” Within hours of the Taliban victory, women were told not to enter Herat University, Taliban forces fired on peaceful protesters, and those who worked with Americans or Europeans in any capacity went into hiding or tried to escape. In the streets of Kabul, men began hastily whitewashing posters showing the faces of women, who will now once again be banished into the shadows.

The events in Afghanistan are part of a much bigger story, and they illustrate that story with painful clarity. Rarely is the contest between “open” and “closed” societies, between democracy and dictatorship, between freedom and autocracy so crystal clear; rarely has the victory of the latter over the former been so rapid or so complete. A Hugo Chávez or a Vladimir Putin needs years to impose repressive control on their nation. The Taliban might carry it off in days or weeks.

For that reason, the fall of Kabul will necessarily cause some U.S. allies to question whether their own liberal society is safe. They understand why Americans were tired of Afghanistan; maybe it’s true that the country was too distant, too alien, to justify a continued presence, as Biden has so forcefully said. But which countries are close enough, or culturally similar enough, to be confident of long-term American support? They aren’t at war right now, but still: If the U.S. military were to abruptly withdraw air support and logistics from Europe, say, or from the South Korean peninsula, then many countries might suddenly find themselves vulnerable to aggression. Germany would not be able to defend itself from one day to the next. Nor would Poland. Or Estonia. Or Japan. An enormous question mark lies, of course, over the islands of Taiwan.
 
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bigdeal is correct. There is a line you NEVER cross and that foolish piece of shit went waaaaay past that line.


He didn't so much as cross it, more trip/fall/stumble/didn't see it.

This is not a game of twister for sure ...

Aus news update:

More than 100 former Afghan security guards were initially sent rejection letters from the Australian government before being told they would be considered for humanitarian visas. And access to evac flights to Aus.

These Afghans were contracted to guard Australia's diplomats, as the first line of defence outside the Embassy in Kabul.

This instead of a special refugee visa, which is usually reserved for former Afghan staff employed in country by Australia.

Source: AAP, quoting Minister for Home Affairs Karen Andrews at a press conference at Parliament House in Canberra.

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Some 470 people have been evac'd from Kabiul on 4 Aus Defence Force (ADF) to a milbase in Dubai. Passengers were Aus citizens, Afghan nationals and British citizens.
There are some Aussie nationals who may have already given up hope of being evac'd out of Kabul. Can't get to the entry gate.
ADF troopers not allowed beyond the tarmac at Hamid Karzai Int'l airport. "too dangerous' said some official.
We can all understand the frustrations, and how 'look the other way' starts.

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'It would be better to die under the Taliban's bullet': US diplomat cable reveals Afghan embassy staff feel BETRAYED by America and are being brutally beaten by Taliban outside Kabul airport where US soldiers try to save dehydrated kids

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...l-airport-chaos.html

Damaging US cables reveal staff working at the American Embassy in Kabul were 'deeply disheartened' by the Biden Administration's withdrawal, with some even saying 'it would be better to die under the Taliban's bullet' than attempt to flee.

The jarring statement was part of a diplomatic cable from Afghan US Embassy staff, who said they've been separated from their children, according to NBC News, which obtained the message.

'Happy to die here, but with dignity and pride,' another embassy staffer said, while a third accused the U.S. of prioritizing Afghan government elites with vast wealth and the connections to safely flee.

The cables were exposed after it was revealed around 300 Afghans asked to get out of Kabul airport and return to their Taliban-run cities because the conditions have spiraled out of control, a State Department official said.

Temperatures have been between 85 and 95 degrees Fahrenheit around the airport - essentially a dustbowl - nearly every day as the desperate mob of tens of thousands of people with young kids try to save their families from Taliban attacks, stampedes or being crushed against the airport gates.

US troops are doing what they can to help US civilians and their Afghan allies prevent dehydration and heat exhaustion, with items like water bottles in short supply and needing to be rationed out.

A US Marine seen in a viral video giving water to six young children is being hailed as a hero, but many say that small act of kindness emphasises The video shows the Marine with a large water bottle surrounded by children's innocent smiles in a rare but heartwarming scene that gave a sense of humanity in the bleakest of times.

Meanwhile, British soldiers desperately shouted for medics and stretchers, as unconscious people were carried away, many being pronounced dead and covered in white sheets, according to a Sky News report on Saturday.

Other paratroopers tried to pull people - including young children - from the chaos, and stood atop compound walls, spraying the crowd with hoses to try and cool them down, as medics dashed between casualties.

There were also scenes of people left injured and bloodied, sat amongst piles of papers and discarded clothes near the site, while others stood shoulder to shoulder, amid sounds of screams and gunshots, the Sun reports.

Tweeting from the airport this afternoon, journalist Kim Sengupta said he had witnessed 'four people, all women, die from the heat and crush'.

Sky News' chief correspondent Stuart Ramsay also reported that people at the front of the crowd of thousands were being 'crushed to death', in what he described it as 'the worst day by far' at Kabul airport.

In a sign the crisis at Kabul is deepening, Germany's government today warned that access to the airport is not often possible' and that the area remains 'extremely dangerous'.

More at link.


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The hemorrhaging is not going to stop for the Biden administration. Stories like the above will continue to come out daily, and we haven't even gotten close to the worst to come.
 
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The hemorrhaging is not going to stop for the Biden administration. Stories like the above will continue to come out daily, and we haven't even gotten close to the worst to come.


Indeed. I listened to a podcast with Brig General Don Bolduc. He did a lot of the nation building operations late in the war. He was pretty clear that Trump had a plan. Biden is lost.




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I know Glenn isn't always popular, but I saw Glenn Beck is taking donations to go to rescuing our people in Afghanistan.

https://www.glennbeck.com/blog...ies-from-afghanistan
What exactly are they planning to use the money for, charter flights, Ubers, bribing the Taliban ? Ridiculous !

FYI I'm not endorsing anything, just info.
 
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Biden is going to make Jimmy Carter look like Teddy Roosevelt before this is all over.

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I was texting him what he thought about the current situation, this was his response...


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Damn that’s funny!
 
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Consider anyplace you have ever worked, what would you think if the various departments kept contradicting the boss and other departments? Obviously, a feeling of strength with little fear of any consequences. The boss's job looks to be in jeopardy.

I think Biden/Harris were chosen specifically for their individual traits. Biden going dementia and Harris lacking anything like a mandate, integrity or even competence. Easy to bump the one for the other at any time that suits which appears to be now.

Now imagine a power-hungry politician making a deal with Harris where she becomes his puppet whereby he runs the country and she takes any glory yet is still the stooge. That puppet master has already salted the State Dept with friends, etc. He has already poisoned the military, Just look who is getting undercut these days, the WH and the Pentagon. There are no coincidences in this.

State is making its play for the presidency with some direction. Maybe Obama, maybe their fellow travelers at the CIA. Anyway, just thought I'd toss out my impression. Or, I could be completely wrong.


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I think Biden/Harris were chosen specifically for their individual traits.
You give these leftists far too much credit. Biden wasn't "chosen" in the sense you mean; he was all that was left to run.

There's no grand plan behind this. They're just making it up as they go along. They think us to be like pets or like farm animals to be herded. Do you need a plan to outsmart your pets?
 
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The press conference questions earlier in the week from news sources such as NPR, ABC, and Bloomberg and a couple others resembled actual non-biased probing journalism, but the knives were blunted for today's questions. It will be interesting to watch the next few press conferences to see whether this was an anomaly, or if the press is backing off their criticism of him.


Well if he's pre-screening questions and has a binder of answers prepared in advance, then it's not really a free press at all, nor is the press "backing off" even a relevant statement to consider. If you only accept the softball questions and effectively censor out any difficult ones, you have the gov't controlling the press and turning the media into nothing more than Pravda. What would have to happen in that case is the media outlets would have to report that their questions are effectively being ignored and censored. Do they have the guts to do that? In a just world they should do that and they should also boycott any administration "press conference" by any official until that practice ends. Both seem unlikely to happen.


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