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Americans have spent the last century trying to turn the world into America. Let’s spend this century making America what it was always intended to be: a refuge from the rest of the world.

And we were on our way with President Trump.

^^^Yup, that was the whole point of DJT....America First!

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Originally posted by LoungeChair:
Say what you want about Biden's poor understanding of the actual security situation, he was just executing the deal Trump made with the Taliban.
As far as keeping troops in the country, that ship had sailed a long time ago when Trump inked the deal with the Taliban.

Sounds like you're blaming Trump for the current state of affairs. Trump had it right. Biden is correct for following through with Trump's plan. What Biden Fkd up was the execution.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:

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Originally posted by LoungeChair:
Say what you want about Biden's poor understanding of the actual security situation, he was just executing the deal Trump made with the Taliban.
As far as keeping troops in the country, that ship had sailed a long time ago when Trump inked the deal with the Taliban.

Sounds like you're blaming Trump for the current state of affairs. Trump had it right. Biden is correct for following through with Trump's plan. What Biden Fkd up was the execution.

No surprise there really, Lounge's previous postings in Trump and Biden threads indicates he adores Dementia Joe

https://www.foxnews.com/live-n...ey-close-in-on-kabul

A former senior U.S. defense official who has been in contact with American commanders on the ground in Kabul tells Fox News’ Bret Baier that “the Taliban have a ring outside of the airport and won’t let anyone inside it.”

The source said the 82nd Airborne is securing the airport but “the big issue here is that no people outside of the Taliban ring will get in.”

Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby told ABC News on Tuesday that the State Department has started giving evacuation orders to Americans in Kabul that previously were advised to shelter in place.

"Our focus militarily is very squarely on the airport, making sure that we can keep it up and running, that we can maintain security and stability there,” Kirby said.

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"Runway in Kabul international airport is open. I see airplanes landing and taking off," Stefano Pontecorvo, NATO Senior Civilian Representative to Afghanistan, posted on Twitter.

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A German military plane that landed in Kabul Monday as part of the evacuation efforts managed to only get 7 people on board before taking off again, Reuters reports.

"Because of the chaotic circumstances at the [Kabul] airport and regular exchanges of fire at the point of access, it was not ensured that further German nationals and other people to be evacuated would gain access to the airport at all without the protection of the [German military],” its foreign ministry said in a statement to Deutsche Welle in explaining why so few people were picked up.

A second German plane that departed Kabul on Tuesday carried more than 120 people including Germans, Afghans and people from other countries, according to a tweet from Foreign Minister Heiko Maas.

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nearly 1,000 American troops have been flown in to join the 3,500 already on the ground and more are expected to arrive in the coming hours.

Meanwhile, the State Department has sent messages to some American citizens in Kabul telling them how to safely assemble at the airport for upcoming departures.

If ever there was a location on a map that needed some woolen blankets from 1837, it would be what we call Afghanistan. The Chinese will be ruthless in rooting out opposition. They understand what it will take to make the locals fear them more so than the Taliban or whatever tribe is in power. Once they get what they are after, they will leave that area stripped of anything usable and move on to the next place to do it all over again.

I'm reading reports that there are lots of Americans and other Westerners holed up and trapped in Kabul. This could get really bad really fast.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
“Americans have spent the last century trying to turn the world into America. Let’s spend this century making America what it was always intended to be: a refuge from the rest of the world.”

This right here is exactly what we should be doing. The amount of blood and treasure wasted on adventures overseas is staggering. What do we have to show for it? There are a lot of problems domestically that have been put on the back burner. At some point America needs to focus on America and put it first again on the priority list. I wonder when that will happen.

True but the left insists on turning America into the rest of the world.

Why did we give up Bagram before we had everyone out?

Poor planning, poor intel.

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Originally posted by ulsterman:
Why did we give up Bargram before we had everyone out?

Poor planning, poor intel.

Perhaps the results from the Maricopa County Audit was nearing release.
Logistically that is the only timeline item I see.

How is this going to work? 3000 troops surround the airport. we spend days loading aircraft with people. When all the citizens, contractors, and people fleeing the Taliban are gone the 3000 troops high tail it to running aircraft as the Taliban collapse on the airport? C17's ain't quick to load, taxi or takeoff. Airpower and drones to provide security as troops move to the planes and while loading? This assumes the Taliban doesn't attack while trying to manage this disaster. They have mortars and rockets as well. What a shit show.

the photo thats being circulated of Bidet sitting by himself looking at the monitors seems to have some problems...

notice the clocks

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Originally posted by gw3971:
How is this going to work? 3000 troops surround the airport. we spend days loading aircraft with people. When all the citizens, contractors, and people fleeing the Taliban are gone the 3000 troops high tail it to running aircraft as the Taliban collapse on the airport? C17's ain't quick to load, taxi or takeoff. Airpower and drones to provide security as troops move to the planes and while loading? This assumes the Taliban doesn't attack while trying to manage this disaster. They have mortars and rockets as well. What a shit show.

This is a cluster fuck. We shot ourselves in the foot and wonder why we are bleeding.

I don’t foresee Tailiban attacking those at the airport.
They have isolated the airport and will likely let all fly out.

Those outside of the airport however will see a different fate.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
the photo thats being circulated of Bidet sitting by himself looking at the monitors seems to have some problems...

notice the clocks

You can see the clocks clearly at this link.
Link

They are rocking us to sleep.

Giving amnesty to supporters of the Americans?
Women in the new gov't?
Leaving the airport alone?

Don't buy it.

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Originally posted by ulsterman:

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Originally posted by gw3971:
How is this going to work? 3000 troops surround the airport. we spend days loading aircraft with people. When all the citizens, contractors, and people fleeing the Taliban are gone the 3000 troops high tail it to running aircraft as the Taliban collapse on the airport? C17's ain't quick to load, taxi or takeoff. Airpower and drones to provide security as troops move to the planes and while loading? This assumes the Taliban doesn't attack while trying to manage this disaster. They have mortars and rockets as well. What a shit show.

This is a cluster fuck. We shot ourselves in the foot and wonder why we are bleeding.

Starting to feel like Dunkirk.

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Originally posted by LoungeChair:
Say what you want about Biden's poor understanding of the actual security situation, he was just executing the deal Trump made with the Taliban.

Horse fucking shit. You keep your Trump-hating crap to yourself.

I realize that severe, permanent brain damage is epidemic in your home of Southern California, but you are not selling that shit here.

Ancient enemy of Afghanistan created a prayer about the country. “May god deliver us from the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghans”. When you fail to plan, plan to fail. It doesn’t help us having a dysfunctional government focused upon there own needs instead of that of the people. Nor a president reminiscent of Neville Chamberlain.

Please lord, protect the innocents & punish the wicked.

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Originally posted by ulsterman:
This is a cluster fuck. We shot ourselves in the foot and wonder why we are bleeding.

"We" are not responsible for this. The ridiculous and completely incompetent Biden administration did this, and I don't even consider those assholes to be Americans. I don't recognize the Biden administration as a legitimate entity. Biden and his whole America-hating crew are nothing more than filthy domestic terrorists.