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Honky Lips |
I took the J&J, as it is the lesser of 2 evils, against my better judgement but I needed to get on a plane in Hawaii and didn't have the time to quarantine. No ill effects to date. | |||
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Resident Undertaker |
I was definitely in the never category until I realized if I was going to Hawaii last year, I had to have it. Took the one shot J&J. Wife has had 4 shots so far. John The key to enforcement is to punish the violator, not an inanimate object. The punishment of inanimate objects for the commission of a crime or carelessness is an affront to stupidity. | |||
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teacher of history |
I am 75 and in relatively good health. My wife is a 74 year old diabetic. We have both had every shot possible (Moderna), if 10 more showed up tomorrow, we would take them all. We are enjoying retirement and don't want any part of Covid. | |||
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I swear I had something for this |
I did Pfizer 1 & 2 and am neutral on the situation. I did have COVID this time last year and I did have 1 trip to the ER for some oxygen and an inhaler to take home. I probably won't get a booster unless I'm at a Doctor's appointment and I can get it there. I'm not making an appointment somewhere special to go get it. | |||
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Member |
I got the J&J initially, and followed up with 1 booster and I don't anticipate getting anymore. It took me 6 months of talking to everyone I could, reading, analyzing, and agonizing over what course of action I should take before I somewhat reluctantly chose to get it. The biggest frustration in all of it for me is that I didn't have, and still don't have, anywhere I could go to for information that I could absolutely trust. I tried not to let my own bias cloud the way I processed information but that is tough. To my knowledge I have never had COVID, but it seems unlikely. My guess is that I have been exposed to it multiple times, my body probably fought it off, and the symptoms never manifested. Part of me felt like the the data suggests that I probably did the right thing, and part of me still wishes I would have held off. It is scary how quickly something like this divided our society and how adamite people on both sides of this thing were about being right....None of us actually know, but we tend to gravitate toward information that backs up preexisting bias. Maybe someday we'll have a better handle on the truth behind what we all just experienced. Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. Do everything in love. - 1 Corinthians 16:13-14 | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Good points, Browndrake. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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would not care to elaborate |
The initial reports were that the vaccine made the symptoms less severe, less chance of hospitalization, less chance of dying (at least at the time). Now, I don't believe any of it. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Oh, there's most assuredly a distinct divide. On one side, we have people who want to be allowed the process of informed consent. On the other side, we have a bunch of fascistic busybodies who need to glimpse the business end of a rifle. | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^^Plain Truth Right There...And it doesn't get any plainer than that! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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blame canada |
My wife and I both got the J&J. At the time my physician parents were pushing HARD for us to do one of the mrna versions, I was very hesitant to be amongst those. The local VA demanded proof of it, or an appointment to get the mrna in order to be seen. Our local tire store demanded proof to get in the door (Anchorage owned, and a very common thing in Anchorage at the time). When Biden pushed it on everyone, we stood to lose our .sam contracts with the USACE, FSA, USDA, and FSA demanded proof to stay on their contract list. We told them to pound sand, and they quickly figured out they needed us and changed their mind a few months later. I've yet to see anything from the other entities since. USACE didn't renew our 5 year master contract. I refused to share my personal choice of getting that vaccine with anyone. I threw away my vaccine "passport" at the health clinic when we got the shot in front of them. I told the FSA it was none of their business what my employees or I choose to do for health decisions. Prior to the shot, USDA tried to require vaccine passports for a contract that we were a subcontractor for, we refused, and I have no idea what happened. We did the job and got paid. I'm pretty sure the L48 contractor just lied for us when I refused. Wife thinks her tenitis got worse from it. I can't tell any side effects. Any new health problems I have, I can't find any evidence of others tying them to the J&J vaccine. We caved and got it, because both of us have lung issues. My pulse ox lives in the 88-90 range, and I seldom get above 92. I live at sea level. I had that before, and given burn pit exposures and a 3-pack a day smoking history (for about 6 years in my teens), I was concerned about how my system would handle chinaflu. With my super-spreading triple (at the time) vaxxed physician parents coming for a week long visit, we decided to do the J&J. We were sure they would bring chinaflu with them, and they did. I had very mild discomfort symptoms after they left, both our kids never skipped a beat. My wife felt cruddy and low on breath for about 5 days, and still thinks she had some "long haul" type symptoms, though my wife is a person who has every side effect of every drug she ever takes or even looks at. I honestly am not sure what the potential side effects are or could be for the J&J. I don't regret the decision we made at the time, it was the best decision that made sense to us with the info we had at the time. I was NEVER going to consent to the mrna vaccines. I'm very glad we didn't. It has caused problems within our family. A lot of them, on my side and my wife's side. I won't get into details, but we feel very alone now, but do not regret not getting the mrna shot. My extremely healthy physician father who is turning 65, is battling AFIB. I don't know if that could be related to the 5 mrna shots he's gotten, but even if it is he'll never believe it. He's going to lose his medical over it, just start flying illegally. I see a lot of people his age choosing that. Airline pilots have been hiding disqualifiable medical and mental problems forever. It is not uncommon. I've drifted through this thread, and I don't see anyone who did just the J&J shot talking about any lasting side effects or long-term concerns. I can't find any credible information about side effects of that shot. I'm pretty sure I ended up with chinaflu at least twice. My taste and smell has not returned or is still noticeably diminished. I know a bunch of NFL and MLB went with J&J, it was part of the reason we did. I figured they had too much invested in their players, and would make the best decision they could at the time. I haven't heard of anyone suddenly dying from the J&J shot, outside of a few isolated allergic reactions at the time of the shot administered. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Dies Irae |
No shots, no tests. | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
I distinctly and vividly recall that asshole Fauci telling us it would prevent you from getting or transmitting the disease. What you just stated came sometime after that was proven decided untrue, so we've gone from "we can stop this disease cold" to "you need to get your fourth booster because you were a sucker and got injected three times prior." Or are we on the fifth booster in three years now? I can't keep track. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Member |
I’ve had Covid for sure once, likely twice. I think that has done more for me than the J&J shot(work requirement). I haven’t got any since, no boosters, have no intention. | |||
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Fourth line skater |
My wife and daughter have had them all. I got the first two. Moderna. That's it. I just wasn't right for two months after the second. Went to the doctor described what was going on. They did a whole bunch of tests that all came back normal. It had to be the second shot. Refused the booster last time I was in. Funny thing is both my daughter and wife have had it in the last two months. I've had to have had it but I couldn't tell you when. _________________________ OH, Bonnie McMurray! | |||
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Good enough is neither good, nor enough |
Same here. Work basically required it, so I did it. They are pretty worthless at this point. There are 3 kinds of people, those that understand numbers and those that don't. | |||
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Member |
We were, and still are, traveling, fully “vaxxed and boosted”. I’m 82 and wife is 79. The utter lack of believable information from any compass point, frustration in finding any one point to hang decisions on.made decision a go for “ good” call my decision. Have had symptoms and think side effects, discomfort, etc., result of shots. No more shots. Blackhorse4 | |||
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Void Where Prohibited |
Pretty much my situation also. In January 2020 it seemed like a good idea and my employer was pushing it, so I got the Pfizer shots 1 & 2. I almost got the first booster last year because by that time my employer (Healthcare) was mandating it. Thankfully they dropped that requirement the day before my booster appointment. I promptly cancelled that and will not get another. If I knew then what I know now, I would never have gotten any. "If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards | |||
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Member |
Always amazed me that Pharma had been working on a vaccine since the Sars-CoV1 outbreak in 2002 with no success. 18 years later enter Sars-CoV2 and, magically, 4 months after receiving blanket immunity from liability, they are in phase 3 trials and 4 months after that, people are lining up for the shot. This was a more effective marketing campaign, by the US government, than selling war bonds in WWII. None for me, thanks.This message has been edited. Last edited by: pace40, ____________ Pace | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
You must mean January 2021. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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No More Mr. Nice Guy |
I'm sorry to hear of the family problems. We've certainly run into quite a bit of family disapproval to put it mildly. For me, I think the most disheartening aspect of the entire Covid event has been how quickly so many people turned on us. Coworkers, management, businesses, government agencies, neighbors, family, medical providers, politicians, media organizations, celebrities. Some of us hesitated in the very early days, waiting to see how safe and effective various jabs might be. Others took the jab, had adverse outcomes, and started speaking up about it (e.g. Eric Clapton). We were vilified, blamed for the pandemic, accused of all kinds of terrible things. The description of civilization being only a thin veneer seems quite true. Unfortunately it applies to some family as well. | |||
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