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Originally posted by HRK:

Wait until IL, NY or CA take the data from plates, and match it up to their concealed permit holders information so they can track where you drive with a gun. You know, because, safety.....

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Flock cameras aside, some research would indicate that the average American is surveilled by cameras as often as 70 times a day and at least 10 times a day. Depending on your movements and the area in which you live or work.
If we as a society were truly concerned about privacy, we should have taken action at least 20 years ago to limit surveillance. Today, that ship has sailed and it's gone so far that the harbor cameras cant see it.

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
Most people don't have a clue to the extent of surveillance.

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Originally posted by Jupiter:

Most people don't have a clue to the extent of surveillance.

Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology in modern smart TVs can capture and analyze up to 7,200 screenshots per hour, which equates to roughly two images every second. These images are used as "fingerprints" to identify content—including streaming, cable, and HDMI-connected devices—to build, and sell, detailed viewing profiles for targeted advertising. Where is the data going?

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
Most people don't have a clue to the extent of surveillance.

Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) technology in modern smart TVs can capture and analyze up to 7,200 screenshots per hour, which equates to roughly two images every second. These images are used as "fingerprints" to identify content—including streaming, cable, and HDMI-connected devices—to build, and sell, detailed viewing profiles for targeted advertising.

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Originally posted by vthoky:

It’s under “Intelligent Mode” in the setup section. Note the text on the right: “Improves your viewing experience by recognizing your content, usage patterns, and the environment around your TV.”

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:

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The alternative point is that it invades peoples right to privacy

You have no expectation of privacy in public.

That has been repeatedly upheld in various court cases.

Tracking databases, facial recognition networks, et al have potentially problematic ripple effects.

But it's not specifically a privacy issue, since you have none in public.


The town where I patrol is having Flock plate readers installed in a couple high traffic spots. But those are plate readers only. The benefits from a LE perspective sound good, but it will be a little while before I have any firsthand experience.

And at its core, it's not really all that different from me sitting in a patrol car and typing in every plate that passes me. Just less manpower intensive.

And to my earlier privacy point, you have even less expectation of privacy with your license plate (as if less than zero is a thing), since it's not even your property... It's the state's.

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Originally posted by SW_Sig:
Flock and other LPR systems show much more data than what is available to the public.

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“I want to be clear what these cameras actually are, and I say that with somebody with 20 years of experience in IT. I've served as the chief network architect for Fortune 500 companies, I've designed data centers, and today I work on cloud infrastructure for one of the largest loan origination companies in the country. I'm not speculating on how this technology works. I've read their patents and I know how it works.

Flock advertises these cameras as simple license plate readers. But their own patents tell a different story.

They're AI-powered surveillance machines that capture every passing vehicle and person and transmit that data to a private corporate cloud, making it queryable by a multitude of state and federal agencies. The city of Corona does not control that database, and Corona residents have no public record rights against a private company's servers. Our daily movements are being harvested by a $7.5 billion corporation, that only answers to venture capital investors, not to us. Flock did not reach that valuation on their per-camera subscription fees. That math doesn't add up

The city council should also understand who they're doing business with. Flock CEO was asked whether the company had any federal contracts. He said no. That was a lie.

Public records revealed that Flock had been secretly running a pilot program giving the US Border Patrol access to local police camera data without the knowledge of the cities that paid for the cameras.

Now consider who's behind the company and where your data flows. Flock integrates directly with Palantir, a data fusion platform, with a $30 million contract with ICE. Peter Thiel, the founder of Palantir, is also one of Flock's primary investors. These are not separate companies with separate agendas. They are connected actors that are building a connected infrastructure.

Palantir's own CEO stated publicly just this month that his technology is being used as a political instrument, designed to reduce the political power of certain voters. And that's the ecosystem that our Corona cameras are feeding into.

We're not anti-police at all. We're against mass surveillance of innocent residents by a company with a documented record of deception, built by investors with a stated political agenda. We're asking the City Council to start auditing the queries made against Flock's database, to disclose any data sharing agreements, and to take a vote to cancel the Flock safety contract”


I looked more into this and he is 100% right

Patents describe broader object detection, including tracking people and pedestrians, patents like US11416545B1. The system uses a centralized cloud database for nationwide queries

Data goes to Flock’s private cloud, AWS-based, encrypted. Nationwide lookup is common, 75%+ of customers are enrolled enabling cross-jurisdictional searches. Residents have no direct public records access to the corporate servers.

This creates a mass surveillance network feeding a private company’s infrastructure

If you ask me this is laying the infrastructure for a mass surveillance network in America. We are being lied to. Cancel all contracts nationwide!