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Our founders were very smart people. What type of system would they have drafted if they assumed corruptible men? When the US is gone, what learnings would be incorporated into the constitution of the new republic?




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Quentin Tarantino claims Alec Baldwin was responsible to 'some degree' for gun in fatal 'Rust' shooting

Quentin Tarantino explained Alec Baldwin was responsible "to some degree" for his gun on the set of "Rust."

A judge dismissed Baldwin's involuntary manslaughter charge in July mid-trial after finding the prosecution withheld exculpatory evidence from the defense. "Rust" cinematographer Halyna Hutchins died Oct. 21, 2021, after a gun Baldwin was holding fired on set. Tarantino shared his beliefs regarding guns on movie sets during an appearance on "Club Random" with Bill Maher.

"You're the perfect one to ask. Who has been on more sets than you?" Maher asked Tarantino.

"It's a situation, I think I'm being fair enough to say, that the armorer — the guy who handles the gun — is 90% responsible for everything that happens when it comes to that gun, but... the actor's 10% responsible," Tarantino said. "It's a gun. You are a partner in the responsibility, to some degree."

"So what do you do to test it?" Maher questioned.

They show it to you," Tarantino explained. "If there are steps to go through, you go through them. And it's done with due diligence, and you know it's f---ing for real all right."

"What should he have done?" Maher asked. "Should he have looked into the barrel?" The podcast host noted: "You can't shoot it because then you're like using it."

Tarantino explained the steps many industry experts claimed should have been taken in the moments before Baldwin was handed the gun on the "Rust" set. The steps include showing the barrel of the gun is clear and showing the actor the blanks inside the gun.

Representatives for Baldwin did not respond to Fox News Digital's immediate request for comment.

A jury found "Rust" armorer Hannah Gutierrez Reed guilty of involuntary manslaughter in March. She is currently serving her 18-month sentence but plans to appeal following Baldwin's case dismissal.

"The state's willful withholding of this information was intentional and deliberate," Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer said inside the New Mexico courthouse just a few days into Baldwin's trial. "If this conduct does not rise to the level of bad faith, it certainly comes so near to bad faith as to show signs of scorching prejudice.

"There is no way for the court to right this wrong."

The stunning blow to the prosecution team, which had been working on the case for more than three years, arrived after the state had called only seven witnesses.

Baldwin's lawyer argued gun safety was not Baldwin's responsibility in his opening statements at trial.

"The actor’s job is to act," he told the jury. "He’s Harland Rust. He’s an outlaw running for his life, who in the incident in question, he’s pulling a six-shooter to try to defend himself. That’s why the gun has to be safe before it gets into the actor’s hands."

"His mind is somewhere else: in the being of another, a century away, an outlaw."
 
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Maybe I’m saying this because I’m a gun guy, and I have had a negligent discharge where fortunately, no one was hurt; I would always be checking the firearm. I would be looking at every round and making sure they are blanks, ESPECIALLY if I’m pointing it at another human.
I’m happy Tarantino says it’s 10% Baldwin’s fault, but seriously, I feel it’s at least 50%.
If it were me, I would feel that it may be 100% my fault AS I DIDN’T CHECK THE GUN.



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Tarantino is an asshole coming to the rescue of Baldwin

there is only one person that killed Hutchins and that is the person that pulled the trigger

period, end of story

if it weren't for Baldwin, Hutchins would still be alive

he was 'in another place being an actor' is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life
 
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Quentin Tarantino claims Alec Baldwin was responsible to 'some degree' for gun in fatal 'Rust' shooting


Baldwin's lawyer argued gun safety was not Baldwin's responsibility in his opening statements at trial.

"The actor’s job is to act," he told the jury. "He’s Harland Rust. He’s an outlaw running for his life, who in the incident in question, he’s pulling a six-shooter to try to defend himself. That’s why the gun has to be safe before it gets into the actor’s hands."

"His mind is somewhere else: in the being of another, a century away, an outlaw."


Bullpuckey!!!! Tarantino shame on you!

The TRUTH is Baldwin was the PRODUCER of Rust and is ultimately responsible for everything. His DUTY was to ensure safety, among other things.

To take just a few seconds to ensure the gun had blank rounds and not actual real ammo was a fatal mistake that baldwin needs to admit to and take responsibility for. Too dang arrogant!

So disingenuous, so Hollywood-ish typical behavior to always blame someone else and never take responsibility and ownership.

SHAME on you tarantino!!
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The way I read this, it's not necessarily over. Can any lawyer folk comment?

A prosecutor asks for charges to be reinstated against Alec Baldwin in the 'Rust' case



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