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I wondered what qualified Hannah Gutierrez-Reed to be an armorer in the first place.

First of all, to have that job, you have to be a little bit of an ass, and a have a little bit of "don't mess with me or the guns I'm responsible for" attitude.

I just don't see that in this gal.


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I wondered what qualified Hannah Gutierrez-Reed to be an armorer in the first place.

Her dad, would be my guess.


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Yes, nepotism, and nothing more, and from what I can see, she had no qualifications for the job, none at all.
 
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Her lawyer, Jason Bowles, asked Marlowe Sommer last week for leniency.

However, prosecutors asked the judge to throw the book at Gutierrez-Reed, whom they claim still refuses to take responsibility — evidenced in jail calls in which she, among other things, insulted jurors as “idiots” and “a–holes.”

At Monday’s hearing prosecutor Kari Morrissey said: “I wasn’t sure exactly what recommendation would be appropriate in this unprecedented case until last week when I completed the review of Ms. Gutierrez’s jail calls.

“It was my sincere hope during this process that there would be some moment when Ms. Gutierrez took responsibility and expressed some level of remorse that was genuine. That moment has never come. Ms. Gutierrez continues to refuse to take responsibility for her role in the death of Halyna Hutchins.”

https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/...-of-halyna-hutchins/

prosecutors had listed a slew of alleged misconduct by Gutierrez-Reed from after her arrest. They claimed she drank alcohol while out pending trial “contrary to her conditions of release,” encouraged her mom to confront prosecutors while in the bathroom at court; and attempted to lie to prosecutors about her work history to give the impression she was working full-time prior to trial.

prosecutors called Gutierrez-Reed — who was 24 at the time — “sloppy” and “unprofessional” and said she “treated the safety protocols as if they were optional.”

Prosecutors also claim Baldwin — who is a producer on the completed but as-yet unreleased movie as well as its star — shares responsibility for Hutchins’ tragic death, arguing he had “no control” of his emotions in the weeks leading up to the tragedy and claiming he pressured crew to work faster and “routinely compromised safety.”

Baldwin, slated to go on trial on July 10, is seeking to get the charges against him tossed and has maintained his innocence.

Last year, assistant director David Halls took a guilty plea for negligently handling of a gun and received a no-jail time sentence of probation.
 
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Who does not know that those phone calls are recorded? It seems like her areas of incompetency extend beyond safe handling of firearms.
 
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In one of those calls she carped about how this is messing up her "modeling career."



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Who does not know that those phone calls are recorded? It seems like her areas of incompetency extend beyond safe handling of firearms.

Ain't that the truth. You should be saying all the right things during those phone calls regardless if you mean it or not. Don't they even tell you they are being recorded before you make the call? If they didn't tell you could they even be used in court for sentencing considerations?

Self absorbed twit.


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I wondered what qualified Hannah Gutierrez-Reed to be an armorer in the first place.
Cheap.


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In one of those calls she carped about how this is messing up her "modeling career."


Well she is about open her Only Fans Account in Cell Block D...where I am sure she will be very popular.
 
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I wondered what qualified Hannah Gutierrez-Reed to be an armorer in the first place.
Cheap.

That and the fact that her stepfather is a well-known exhibition shooter and Hollywood armorer.

Incidentally, Thell Reed started a GoFundMe for financial support for her legal expenses, but was shut down for violating rules against raising funds for violent crimes. NoFundMe



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Smug ol' Alex oughta be shitting bricks right about now.


You're assuming he thinks rational, like us normal folk...
You, me, the rest of us on here, Oh Hell Yeah! we'd be shitting bricks, and learning how to make a shiv and toilet wine. Working out, learning how to fight dirty.

Alec?
"See, it was HER fault! Not MINE! SHE did it! It could NEVER BE ME! I would NEVER do something like that!"

You think he gave performances in is past films? Wait until you see his performance in that courtroom. I just hope the judge sees right through his bullshit.


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I haven't followed this that closely. Can anyone explain why there were any real bullets on the set?

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The story is that some crew members were allowed to shoot live ammo off site and that the guns were returned to the set without proper scrutiny by the armorer.



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Very interesting article.

"Alec Baldwin had ‘no control’ over his emotions...
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Something we've known about him for about 15-20 years.

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The story is that some crew members were allowed to shoot live ammo off site and that the guns were returned to the set without proper scrutiny by the armorer.

Thanks, Darthfuster. What a recipe for disaster. It would have made more sense to forbid live rounds altogether, or insist that any live shooting be done with guns of a vastly different caliber.


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I haven't followed this that closely. Can anyone explain why there were any real bullets on the set?
Nobody in the chain of those people who handled it, inspected the revolver.

The "armorer" was not doing her job. She allowed live ammunition on the site, and she did not inspect the revolver properly when it was loaded.

Another crew member did not inspect the revolver while accepting it and handing it to Baldwin.

The murderer did not inspect the revolver before cocking the hammer and pulling the trigger.



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Re: The murderer did not inspect the revolver before cocking the hammer and pulling the trigger.

Libs are prone to “not my job, man.” They shirk responsibility whenever possible.



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The story is that some crew members were allowed to shoot live ammo off site and that the guns were returned to the set without proper scrutiny by the armorer.


There was absolutely no evidence or testimony presented in the trial to substantiate this early news media claim.
 
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"You were the armorer, the one that's to be between a safe weapon and a weapon that could kill someone. You alone turned a safe weapon into a lethal weapon. But for you, Mrs. Hutchins would be alive, a husband would have his partner and a little boy would have his mother. Please take her." - Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer

Does this give Baldwin his out?
 
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I watched nearly all of the testimony and the conclusion I came to is Seth Kenny sent live rounds to the set by mistake. After the shooting and a short phone call between Seth Kenny and the Prop Master, Sarah Zachry, something was tossed in the trash from the armorer cart. Sarah stated it was spent casings. It was the Defense's theory that she was tossing other live rounds that were found in the box of ammo that was sent to the set by Seth Kenny.

In the end, it doesn't really matter how the rounds got on set. If Gutierrez-Reed, Halls, and Baldwin had checked the gun like they should have this probably wouldn't have happened.
 
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