Below from Santa Fe newspaper.
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Expert report concludes trigger on gun in ‘Rust’ shooting was pulled
By Phaedra Haywood phaywood@sfnewmexican.com Aug 15, 2023 Updated Aug 16, 2023


A forensic firearms examiner hired by the state to evaluate the condition and functioning of the revolver involved in the 2021 fatal shooting death of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins has determined the weapon could not have fired without the trigger being pulled.

The report could have implications for the film’s star and producer Alec Baldwin, who was holding the gun when it discharged a live round on a movie set south of Santa Fe, killing Hutchins and wounding director Joel Souza.

“Although Alec Baldwin repeatedly denies pulling the trigger, given the tests, findings and observations reported here, the trigger had to be pulled or depressed sufficiently to release the fully cocked or retracted hammer of the evidence revolver,” forensic firearms examiner Lucien C. Haag wrote in his report, which was attached to a motion filed Tuesday by defense attorneys for the film’s armorer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed.

“If the hammer had not been fully retracted to the rear, and were to slip from the handler’s thumb without the trigger depressed, the half cock or quarter cock notches in the hammer should have prevented the firing pin from reaching any cartridge in the firing chamber,” according to the report.

The report also concludes the bullet that killed Hutchins and wounded Souza was similar to five other live rounds investigators recovered from various locations on the Rust set and “dissimilar” to bullets and ammunition obtained PDQ Arm and Prop owner Seth Kenney, who supplied some weapons and ammunition for the film.

Baldwin told ABC News in December 2021 — a little more than a month after the shooting — he didn’t pull the trigger on firearm used in the scene, described in the report as an Italian-made “facsimile” of a Colt 1873 single-action revolver.

Prosecutors charged Baldwin with involuntary manslaughter in the case in January 2023, contending an FBI ballistics report had determined the gun could not have fired without the trigger being pulled. They dismissed the fourth-degree felony charge “without prejudice” in April, cited a need to conduct more investigation.

Special prosecutors Kari Morrissey and Jason Lewis in April held open the possibility the case could be refiled.

A source close to the case, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The New Mexican in April the dismissal was related to “new evidence” which centered on the revolver.

The weapon had at some point been fitted with a new hammer, calling into question the FBI’s previous conclusion the weapon could not have fired without the trigger being pulled, the source said.

In a June motion filed in the case against Gutierrez-Reed, prosecutors wrote charges against Baldwin were dismissed without prejudice “because a possible malfunction of the gun significantly affects causation with regard to Baldwin, not with regard to Gutierrez. If it is determined that the gun did not malfunction, charges against Mr. Baldwin will proceed. The prosecution anticipates making a final charging decision with regard to Mr. Baldwin within the next sixty days.”

Sixty-seven days have elapsed since the filing of that motion, and according to online court records no new charges have been filed against Baldwin since.

Morrissey declined to comment Tuesday when asked whether the state had made a decision on whether to charge Baldwin. The actor’s legal firm did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment.

The forensic report was attached to a motion filed Tuesday by Gutierrez-Reed’s attorney’s Jason Bowles and Todd Bullion, asking the court to approve certain jury instructions ahead of trial in the case, which has been set to take place in December.

The motion asks the court to instruct jurors that in order to find Gutierrez-Reed guilty they need to determine her actions were a “significant cause of death ... without which the death would not have occurred.”

The motion also asks the court to instruct the jurors they must consider whether “the negligence of a person other than the defendant may have contributed to the cause of death.”

In the motion, the attorneys say evidence at trial will show Gutierrez-Reed was outside the church where the shooting occurred and “had asked [Assistant Director Dave Halls] to be called back into the church if Baldwin was going to use the gun at all.”

Halls — who accepted the revolver from Gutierrez-Reed prior to the shooting and announced it was a “cold gun,” or safe, before handing it to Baldwin — pleaded no contest in March to negligent use of a deadly weapon as part of an agreement with prosecutors that calls for him to serve six months on unsupervised probation and to cooperate in the prosecution of the others.

The report includes still images of videos taken leading up to the shooting, which shows “Baldwin cocking the silver-colored hammer of a long barreled revolver with his right index finger ending up on or near the trigger.”


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The report includes still images of videos taken leading up to the shooting, which shows “Baldwin cocking the silver-colored hammer of a long barreled revolver with his right index finger ending up on or near the trigger.”

This sounds like the shooting was caught on tape.
I don't think I had heard of this previously.
One would think this would be beneficial to the prosecution.

Baldwin is "worried sick" because he knows what he did.

The truth is that sometimes, rich celebrities wind up in jail.

If he's found guilty and gets only probation, we can take comfort in knowing that if ever again he opens his rotten suck about guns, he'll never, ever hear the end of it.

If all we get out of this is that loudmouthed jackass prima donna being permanently shut up about guns, I'll take it. As it stands, I've been really enjoying the quiet.

I wish someone would have paid Mas Ayoob a substantial amount of money to be involved in this from day one

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blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah....

The 65-year-old actor was holding a real prop Colt revolver for a scene when it went off after he pulled the hammer back and pressed the trigger , killing Hutchins and hospitalizing director Joel Souza. "Rust" armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter after live ammunition was found in the gun the "30 Rock" actor was holding. In June 2023, she was charged with tampering with evidence after prosecutors claimed that she gave a bag of cocaine to another individual on the day that Hutchins died, hindering the police investigation into her death. Her trial has been postponed to early 2024.

more blah, blah blah blah.....

Yahoo News

Corrected for accuracy...

And WTF does Hutchins Gutierrez-Reed giving someone a bag of cocaine have to do with AB pulling the trigger, more attempts at tearing a small person down to take the light off AB? Maybe she gave it to AB, he snorted a line, grabbed the gun, ran in and blammo! Yeah that's what happened,

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Hutchins giving someone a bag of cocaine

Ms. Hutchins was the victim. The armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed is accused of passing the cocaine to an unnamed individual after the shooting, thus tampering with evidence that she was under-the-influence and not fully competent in fulfilling her duties.

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Hutchins giving someone a bag of cocaine

Ms. Hutchins was the victim. The armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed is accused of passing the cocaine to an unnamed individual after the shooting, thus tampering with evidence that she was under-the-influence and not fully competent in fulfilling her duties.

Fixed that, yes HGR,

Baldwin is in this mess because he is an arrogant fool. He still thinks he can escape these consequences if he says or does the right thing to convince the authorities to let him off. If they do, everyone would know the system is corrupt. I don’t think they are willing to sacrifice the system so a doosh can walk free

Did not know this. Baldwin's father was a shooting instructor.

Just The News

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Baldwin's father was a shooting instructor.

The apple fell far from the tree.

Or
His dad sucked as a teacher.

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Or
His dad sucked as a teacher.

Or as a dad, maybe more proof to that assertion.

"Zubiena struggled to maintain what he considered a realistic degree of accuracy due to the high recoil that resulted from firing on full-auto for extended periods, and so to compensate he gripped the rifle's heat shield from above to help steady the barrel. Also during this scene, after firing three 30 round magazines, the blank adaptor fitted on the AC556 heated up to a degree causing it to come loose. It was propelled from the barrel at considerable speed directly towards the camera crew shooting the action; fortunately they were protected by a thick perspex screen."

What a concept! A Perspex safety screen when firing blanks at the camera crew. Back in 1984.



https://miamivice.fandom.com/wiki/Jim_Zubiena

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Dragging on and on and on, but not completely dead on the vine...

Alec Baldwin may face new criminal charges over his role on 'Rust' set
Danielle Long Oct 11, 2023 Updated Oct 11, 2023
KMAland

Alec Baldwin may face new charges in the Rust criminal case after a New Mexico judge on Tuesday ordered Baldwin and Rust producers to turn over documents related to the movie's preproduction planning, according to Deadline.

Judge Mary Marlowe Sommer ruled Tuesday that Rust producers must give prosecutors internal documents pertaining to Baldwin’s full role on the film. Criminal charges against Baldwin in the death of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins were dropped earlier this year, but the special prosecutors in the case have not ruled out refiling manslaughter or other claims against him down the line.

Baldwin was a producer on the film, as well as the star, and production documents and files could shed light on what Baldwin’s financial arrangements were for Rust, including how much he stood to profit from the film, and how much he knew about cost and safety corners that may have been cut.

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10.17.2023 UPDATE: It's off to a grand jury (Fox News)

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https://www.reuters.com/world/...nbc-news-2023-10-17/

Charges to be filled again. Saga continues.

Oh, my.

Alec Baldwin is Pitching a New Reality TV Show and the Jokes Write Themselves

Reading through the comments and suggestions for titles for the reality show; I liked "Shooting Stars".

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Alec Baldwin is apparently tired of doing feature films and is pitching Hollywood on a reality TV show starring himself and his family.

He's not "tired" of films, the studios are tired of him, they had enough. His legal bills likely ate up a good chunk of his personal wealth, so the last resort for a washed up Hollywood film star- reality TV. Sounds like a winner

That ol' boy needs to just retire, drop out of sight and fuck off into the sunset. Career is over, everyone knows it. But he can't, he's gotta keep chasing that spotlight. Oh well, we all get a front-row seat to the fireball.

I was thinking that at some point this would all blow over, and unfortunately, some where down the line, jackass would be on the big screen again. Not that I'm being a defeatist, but that just seems the way this one would work out.

Reality Show?
No shit!!! That's scraping the bottom of the barrel!
Hollywood "A" list to reality tv...


I'm all for it! Let him publicly flame out! Slowly...
Episode by episode, with every one watching.
Maybe do a crossover with those fucktards from New Jersey.