I don’t know. It looks pretty real to me.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
I scrolled to the bottom several times before and again just now. Unless you are referring to the small photo of the undamaged ship* in the Conversation, I do not see another.

* Added: And now that one has disappeared.

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Originally posted by navyshooter:
Survivors families are starting to talk.

THAT is what is going to end this. Get enough pissed-off Mama's and Papa's not getting any answers about their sons and Putin's goons won't be able to stop them.

I still think Putin is going to end up getting wacked sometime soon over all this.

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by corsair:

not implausible for them to have enough uniforms (working blues or, admin blues?) available to get everyone outfitted.

Yeah right

The same Russians that can’t keep tires on their trucks? No, they are full of shit as usual, they are trying to save face here by showing a video that is clearly from an earlier time. Perhaps from the ship’s sendoff?

Especially as the Moskva's captain is taking the salute.

He, uh, went down with it.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I still think Putin is going to end up getting wacked sometime soon over all this.

I don’t, but I’ll be happy to be wrong.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:

He, uh, went down with it.

He got better.

Sadly, with the restrictions on Russian tv and some social media, the moms and pops in Russia won't have much say in the big scheme of things, but some of those in the military might IF they're willing to risk it.

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Originally posted by Tuckerrnr1:

Too soon?

No, stylophiles beat you to it (with a similar cover) by 2 days and 2 pages. :-)

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by PASig:
I still think Putin is going to end up getting wacked sometime soon over all this.

I don’t, but I’ll be happy to be wrong.

I think you'd be joining a HUGE crowd of other people, me included.

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Originally posted by StarTraveler:
Sadly, with the restrictions on Russian tv and some social media, the moms and pops in Russia won't have much say in the big scheme of things, but some of those in the military might IF they're willing to risk it.

That would be the only way a for a place like Russia.
This is the country who's history is littered with overthrown leaders only to see a worst person come along. This is also the country who made political prisoners and labor camps a national industry.

Why is is the Moskva flying the Union Jack? Was it captured after it became a sub?

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Originally posted by PASig:
I still think Putin is going to end up getting wacked sometime soon over all this.

^^^^^^^^^^^^
Putin ain't got nothin on Joe Stalin in terms of atrocities. Joe died in his sleep.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Why is is the Moskva flying the Union Jack? Was it captured after it became a sub?

That's the Russian naval jack.



Not the United Kingdom's "Union Jack" national flag:

Must be my eyes. LOL

I’m surprised some fool expert on Twitter hasn’t accused Russians of flying the confederate flag.

The Red Ensign 1800-present

The Red Ensign is now solely the ensign of ships of the British Merchant Navy and of all civilian vessels that have not been granted a special ensign.



The White Ensign 1800-present

The White Ensign became the sole ensign of the Royal Navy in 1864.



The Blue Ensign 1800-present

The Blue Ensign became the Royal Naval Reserve Ensign. The Royal Naval Reserve (RNR) is the volunteer reserve force of the Royal Navy (RN) in the United Kingdom.



More ensign facts here:

https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gb-ensh2.html

my knowledge of british navel flags was ensign- nificant....

US Navy P-8 Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft reportedly assisted Ukrainians in hitting Russian Navy’s Black Sea flagship RTS Moskva

By Dario Leone
Apr 22 2022

The US Navy reportedly used one of its P-8 Poseidon surveillance aircraft to provide accurate targeting data to Ukrainian forces to sink the Russian Navy’s Black Sea flagship RTS Moskva (121) on Apr. 13, 2022, the Daily Mail says...

Complete article:

https://theaviationgeekclub.co...ship-rts-moskva-121/

and...........

that's how we get into a shooting war with Russia